tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 November 18, 2023 4:30pm-4:58pm MSK
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[000:00:00;00] removed the pr military from the azov battlefield, which is why people are now, on the contrary, trying in every possible way to attend all the peaceful protests , gatherings that take place in the coordination headquarters with some government officials, somewhere to appear on camera, and somewhere to beg journalists to do interview and announce the name of his husband and son there, just from this, because they don’t exchange ordinary people much, some ordinary people, in ukraine, but we exchanged them, here are the people, like wow, well, that is, yes there are them five people, let's say azov’s command was exchanged, everything in ukraine is thinking, everyone was returned, people are coming right under the president’s office, right under this coordination headquarters in kiev, in addition to kiev , many more cities are involved, where people
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are also waiting for their relatives to be released from captivity. in europe, such actions are organized, but as we see, it doesn’t really work, all the time i know in bratislava, now i’m in branislava, near the ukrainian embassy, i want to talk to some of the competent people, maybe they can help me here , i may not be able to help you here, and then i i went to europe, i thought that they would still pay attention to me in this way, but the situation in ukraine, and i went to a local tv channel, so i tried to provide information, again, so that as many people as possible would see it and notice it, please help for us there in exchange, that is, as if in providing complete information , and in order to start making payments, because well, after all, everyone has children, well, no matter how it didn’t work,
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it’s about already 4 months there, more than four months already, what should i do if he doesn’t even have official prisoner of war status, then the decision was made to go to where he was being held, on her part, it was a step of despair, the host of the ukrainian tv channel accused her of betrayal, but she was supported by her mother, who lives in moscow, although they had previously had a conflict, but a common misfortune reconciled, there was only one unresolved question: whether her husband would agree to her offer to stay in russia. i just asked to at least see each other, just to meet for just a couple of minutes, but i needed to understand his mood, and because since there is no connection with each other, i already kind of like there i thought that we could stay with our mother, that is, she would help us for some time, but i know that maybe he would want to go back to ukraine, and it was extremely difficult for me to make a decision for both of us, and i urgently needed this conversation is just for a couple
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of minutes, because suddenly i... something is wrong. pavel no longer wanted to fight for the kiev regime, especially after the sssu missile strike on the colony in yelenovka, where he and other prisoners of war were kept. it wasn’t even an offer, in my opinion he had a counter offer to me, the same the best thing is for us to stay and live on russian territory. in addition, if an exchange had occurred, he could again be sent to the front for meat assaults carried out by the command of the ukrainian army. all the guys who were returning from... everyone was sent back to the front line, well, now the same thing is actually happening, from the flank battalion where he served, they exchanged about 30 people out of 270 for a second, so they are all on the front line, organize a meeting with husband, she was helped
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by the human rights commissioner in donetsk people's republic of morozov, they found, or his place of detention, that is, if it is at all possible, to understand all the circumstances there, if he is not involved in crimes, atrocities and the like, then release him, well, all these proceedings lasted for several months , polygraphs, pasha was eventually released, the owners of the house? alexander, from your husband, hello to you, god , how skinny he is, you didn’t just find out the first time, or something, in general, everything is fine with me, alive and well, i hope in the near future,
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see you. before that he worked in a factory, in our port he was on a carnekompa , he was somehow listed as a police officer, he once worked as an underwater diver, they made him a commander, well... as he says, they took him, but they couldn’t, because there were no crusts, he had a cook and he was put on this job as a cook, where, i don’t know , he left in the morning, came to work in the evening, that’s it, well, they didn’t go to their desk anywhere, since the nineteenth he signed this in november last year his contract ended, well , it turns out that when it all started, he was there was, but no, he left there, he was with you, yes he was a tsunami, they were transported when on the twenty-fourth, well, as he said , they didn’t come to them, they said that they needed to leave from there, they were all taken out, this ship it seems like they were flooded, they were in some school, he spent the night from there, he called us in the morning, come and pick me up, we went with a friend and took him from there, that’s it, he never went there again, the family of the search
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and rescue group commander ivan beryukov lives in their home near mariupol, despite the fact that military operations took place here, the house survived, even the grapes are ripening in the garden, now i’m finishing harvesting them and will pack them for the winter, on the spot... both sons, although one of them has refugee status, left for poland for a while, but only to return home, it took several months to obtain the necessary documents, he returned back , he says, because here is home, here is better, they are waiting for the check to be completed and the head of the family will be sent home, if suddenly he gets on the list of excellent ones, right away, yes, he is there kakertir, yes, i was worried too, i think, lord, you know, well, it’s like god forbid, how , how will it all... end, so, well, we waited for these russians every morning, we got up, and here it’s all azov and azov, azov, we’d already shoot them ourselves if we’d given them if only we had machine guns, though we were right on the switch, they break into shops in jeeps, but like people with
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children who eat milk, they give them vodka , they keep taking away what you need, good stuff, you know, here this vodka, all that remained, these people are in a fight, in short, it’s so cruel. i don’t want to remember the vsu contract, my husband went to feed the family, says natalya, before that he received only about 150 dollars a month at the factory, he chose a place for service that was away from the front line, and i didn’t receive 100 dollars, i didn’t receive 100 dollars, i received 8,000 hryvnia salaries, well, it’s natural that we decided, we sat and thought it over with the whole family , he seemed to suggest going, but they were forced from work from the factory to go, somewhere in a school there wasn’t... for a week-long course, these are some kind of courses there or something there they were kept there for a week or so something like these courses were tactical medicine or self-defense, i don’t know anything, he says something special there, some books there they read something there, i don’t know, in general, then somehow, maybe he says to go there for
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a contract, really, as it were you can earn money there, but just so as not to fight, i wouldn’t agree in life, but i went and found out , as if on the ship, that it doesn’t go anywhere, it’s an old ship, it’s actually in the port, and then they’re dumped there. then they dragged me outside the port , they stopped by, that’s it, he went in the morning and i came home in the evening, i mean, nothing at all, you know, everything, i was calm here, as if absolutely absolutely, here in the city, too, on the first occasion when they got home from school, he left there right away at night. i haven't been there for 2 weeks yet, it's been frying by the way,
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husband, what do you have there, what do you have there? i, uh-huh, no longer cook, for my beloved, cutlets, yes, yes, in the first days, when he lets me leave... i’ve already started there, i’ve come, i ’m cooking, i’m standing, that is, i’m cooking, well , that is, in principle, i have a clear conscience before all this, as you know, there she says, i was an ordinary mechanic and driver, so marina read that if she had not come for her husband herself, she would have had to wait for his release for several years, this is such a sore point, you know, now among a large number of people, and therefore that as far as i know, there are about 7,000 prisoners of war... in russia, maybe i’m still like that, maybe even more, that’s the problem, that there are very
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different russian prisoners of war in ukraine, well, there’s not enough for everyone , well, if here seven, there, let’s say, there, well, well, i don’t know how many, but three times less, yes, then how will everyone return, this question worried me very much, and i even roughly calculated it when pasha was still i was captivated, just by mathematics, yes, if exchanges were made there once, say in 2 months, for some 100 people. when it was 120, when there were no exchanges there for 3 months, yes, then pasha could have waited somewhere more than 5-7 years, this is based on exchanges. thousands of similar relatives and wives followed the outcome of this story through social networks. ukrainian prisoners of war, and now marina, having become a volunteer, is trying to help them also meet their loved ones. when pasha was released, well, i had a flurry of sms a lot on instagram, but how, and what, and we would
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also like, well, that is, people contacted me, i don’t know, well, if i don’t collect, probably 100 people so i’m thinking what should i do with all this, well, as they say, demand doesn’t hit you in the nose, i turned to daria morozova, i say, this way and that, my relatives are turning to me, is it possible , maybe we could be there, well, some information, because many people don’t know that a person is in captivity , well, that is, i... came to her with this request, but she supported me, to start the search, she advises, you need to contact the human rights ombudsman, and there you fill out a form like this, it is sent to the authorized person , within 14 days, well, around 2-3 weeks , an answer comes by email, if such a person is being held captive, his health condition is satisfactory, but the place of detention is not indicated , because no one will write this confidentially, but
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they write, either it is there, or it is absent, and you also need to submit a request to the commissioner for rights of the dpr, exactly the same request, which will also be answered within a month. first of all, relatives apply, through electronic appeals, through hotlines, respectively, they live on the territory of ukraine, you understand that this is a very long way to come to the russian federation in order to see your loved ones, but nevertheless , relatives find themselves in such a difficult life situation, they accept such appropriate decisions, after which they, as it were, turn to us , we carry them out completely in the legal field, that is, we provide full interaction, and then again with all interested authorities to visit their relatives, once again you can kiss the top of the head, establish a connection between close people it is very important for prisoners of war to make the right decision, because many of them do not know which
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side their family is on, i go to the guys in different colonies to visit relatives, and what’s most interesting is that the guys who are in captivity, they don’t know what’s going on around them, deciding whether they want to be exchanged or stay here, for them this is the most painful issue, because they don’t know where their relatives are, that is, this news that when a prisoner receives it, it’s right for them... they cry, they cry, that they learned at least something, because we have people who are from mariupol, they stayed there and live, but there are those who went there to ukraine, and the guys don’t know this, they are asked there, do you want to exchange, he, well, yes, i want to, there, that’s why you want, well, this is the only chance to contact your wife there, that is, at least call her, it’s very important to make as many dates as possible.
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yes, there may be some calls so that the prisoners can contact their families, perhaps then most people will refuse the exchange altogether, because their families are already on the territory of russia, now it has been more than forty years, as for the organization of visits, everything is happening with my help, with the help of the dpr, she connects more people there, well, in russia is the same, that is, we have a date not only in the dpr, we have a date, but this is only relevant for those who have relatives in russia, why not, people came from ukraine, from kiev, and people came from europe and how did they get through europe, through europe, although here is a family... who came for last dates, they were from
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ukraine, they generally gave such a circle, there through turkey and through georgia, they somehow stopped by, i have this route, after our first dates were released - 30 people whose family is now lives on the territory of the russian federation and in the new territories of mariupol, berdyansk, that is, the zaporozhye region, where it is practiced that people will be released. beryukov ivan evgenievich. kolchin vladimir vladimirov, city of mariupol, military unit 30.57 national guard of ukraine. gunner medic - private. grebenyuk ivan ivanovich born november 25, 1999, former military man, served in the tenth mountain assault brigade. among
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the prisoners of war there are quite a large number of those guys who are now in territory of the russian federation, expresses a desire to stay. because they understand that as soon as they arrive as an exchange on the territory of ukraine, firstly, this is a possible criminal case, well, again, on what basis, why was he captured, it is also a 100% sending to continue to fight on the contact line, and accordingly, the guys don’t want to fight, so they want a peaceful life in the future, and even despite the long period that they won’t see their children, parents, relatives, they are ready... to stay here, just to no longer use weapons or kill civilians. each of them has their own story, life, service in the ukrainian army and captivity. one thing in common, now families live in new russian regions, if necessary, stand up for its defense. why do you want to stay in
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russia and not go on exchange to ukraine? well, because at the time when i was on the territory of ukraine. and was an active serviceman, ukraine abandoned us, our families, that is, ukrainian military personnel, because initially there was a conversation that will be transported, that is, there, for example, to kharkov, there to kiev, that is, dnepropetrovsk, but when the escalation began, they called the command and asked what we should do with the families, that is, our families remain in mariupol, as if to evacuate, take it out, he told us. no, take it out yourself as you wish, that is, this is not our problem, that is, how can i return to that state that abandoned me and my family, i am a local resident, that is, the donetsk region, and this is my home, well, how my mother taught me from childhood, where i am
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i was born and came in handy there, that is, that is why i have no desire to leave the donetsk region, the city of mariupol, because this is my home, i have relatives here, a family, a mother, my father died, of course, my brother, my daughter is growing up, my daughter on november 5th i will be 3 years old, well, it makes no sense for me to go to ukraine for any millions, my family is more important to me than these millions , well, what do they say, they pay, come on, they pay whoever they want, but i don’t need it, family is more important to me, everything else, i don’t want to go anywhere for any money, the house is more important, i grew up here, studied here, well, the work here is all mine, the citizens’, but the russian federation, like any country, has rights and there are responsibilities, including responsibilities, how to be liable for military service, is it ready to take on such responsibilities, as a citizen of russia? well, this is a very difficult question, but if i get a passport and well, i am aware of all
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this, i kind of already know, then i’m ready, since this will already be my conscious choice. i think you do every day. i miss you so quietly, i believe that very soon everything will end and we will be together again, everything is fine with me, i alive, healthy, not sick, the only thing that helps me hold on is that you didn’t abandon me, you are always with me, in my heart, grateful to god for giving me such a loving
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family as you kids, dad is very proud of you, take care to our mother, i also want to say hello, i hope that this little news, after our long absence of meetings , will be a pleasant surprise for you , every day we are getting closer to the meeting, i hug and love you, the wife of a prisoner of war, my husband was in the hospital in kiev , but they didn’t treat him that way, they sent him home to arms in didn’t take his hands to kill people, i can’t imagine it at all, he didn’t do it, he worked partly on site
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, he repaired cars there, i worked there as a mechanic, then the whole family looked for an opportunity to evacuate the city to move to my husband’s mother to the village, to the liberated territory of the donetsk people’s republic, there was no connection, nothing, they sat in the basement, worried, afraid, well, they didn’t know what else to be afraid of, to stay. or go and get hit then the shelling was heavy, well , getting under fire was scary, don’t go but staying there is not an option, as if for ourselves we immediately decided that we were going here, we didn’t even consider the option of ukraine there, when many friends left there and everyone came here, well, as it turned out, we have no friends , why did this happen, because how is it, why didn’t you go there, here because of this?
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and you’ll tell me that i’m doing something wrong, i’m doing it the way i decided for myself, in our family we had our own choice, you had yours, and now you’ve gone there, and you ’ll be something for me shout for ukraine, then go to yours ukraine, sit in it, she, excuse the expression, your ukraine wanted to shit on you, and now i say, i must stand up for it, my world is my family. yeah, that's it, and the rest, live where you want, do what you want, if it's bad for you, forget me, well, the main thing is that he came here, he didn't run away anywhere, there was a local policeman, he went, he said that i’m here, i’m here and there, i serve, i’m here , i’m not running away, i’m not going anywhere, wow, everything is here, that is, they didn’t catch him, he came on his own, no, the children went to school, short video message to my son, husband and father, with hope for the soonest. you think how we live here and everything, everything is fine, we love you very much and are waiting for you, we look at the gate every
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day and see where you will come, don’t worry, everything will be fine, yes, look, and i’m here in the city didn’t leave, now marina received a russian passport, in berdyansk, and berdyansk is already the russian federation, everything is very simple here in moscow, you go to the ministry of internal affairs, show your registration, passport, well, ukrainian, that’s 2 weeks, so we can close it, and how living with it passport, simpler, simpler, yes, well, simpler, in terms of, easier for me, yes, that is, i know that i have a passport, i’m calm, i was so nervous after all, but now he’ll stop there, suddenly they’ll check my documents, and what am i going to tell you about why i came from ukraine, well, in fact, nothing quickly. didn’t happen, because in polskva, in my opinion, ukraine has already arrived, and for ukraine there is now
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a simplified development of the system, this whole thing, that is, they give you citizenship right away, not a residence permit, not temporary residence, but just a passport, he says , what she is not at all, everything is very good here, well, let’s put it this way, we didn’t live like that in ukraine, in terms of income, in terms of, well, in general, in terms of earnings, work. this is the only pasha in the family, but we have enough for everything, we rent a rather not cheap apartment, our son works with two tutors, goes to sports training, well, well, well, there are no such salaries there, she understands that there is a way to go that she went through, it will be difficult for other ukrainian women, because many of them are threatened by the authorities, they are intimidated by ukrainian propaganda, but sooner or later their relatives loving... and the power of this desire can overcome any obstacles. i always save
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my family. well, that is, any war will end in some kind of negotiations in any case, all the politicians will come to an agreement with each other, they will shake hands, but ordinary people, i think, should save their family in these circumstances. and this war happened too. and this war will also definitely end. we watch to know everything about russia or saidat. russia is a country of great achievements. right now we are making a discovery in science, our children open the doors of modern classrooms. we create new cultural spaces. of course, we are opening new
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routes and points of attraction, discover the achievements of our country, come to the exhibition for, you want: you don’t want, we don’t want, it’s just a necessity, yes vasya is at his mother’s, there is at his mother’s, vasya, rich, well, go , tell me about yourself , how are you, she’s already 11, it’s our birthday on saturday, on behalf of the entire vgtrk company we wish you happiness and health, i simply have no words, thank you very much. from here to our positions about 10 km, this whole road is shot through, as soon as it’s behind it, they get there, the eastern angler, the northern distance - this is this picture, now we’ll put the map on the map and we’ll carry out analytics, just shoot there anyhow, well, that ’s not our story , it is not the one who acts correctly who wins, the one who
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