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yelenovka, where he and other prisoners of war were kept. it wasn’t even an offer; in my opinion, he had a counter -offer to me, the same thing, for us to stay and live on russian territory. in addition, if an exchange had occurred, he could again be sent to the front for meat assaults carried out by the command of the ukrainian army. all the guys who returned from captivity were sent back to the front line, well, now the same thing is actually happening. from the pashin battalion where he served, about 30 people out of 270 were exchanged for second, here they are all on the front line, the commissioner for human rights in the donetsk people's republic, daria morozova, helped her organize a meeting with her husband, they found pasha, established his place of detention, that is, if this... it is possible to understand
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all the circumstances there, if he not involved in crimes, atrocities and the like , then he should be released, well , all these proceedings and polygraphs lasted for several months, in the end pasha was released, the owners of the house? this is alexander, from your husband, hello to you, god, how skinny he is, you just didn’t recognize it the first time, in general, hello, wife, children, mother, everything is fine with me, fat, i hope in the near future.
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see you soon, before this he worked at the plant, he was still in our port, he was listed as something, well, already in the police, he once worked, he was appointed commander of some submarine there, but since he was taken well, well, no they could, because he was short of a cook and he was assigned to this job as a cook , i don’t know where, i left in the morning, came to work in the evening, that’s it, well, they’re at the port didn’t go anywhere, since the nineteenth he signed in november last year...’ his contract ended, well, it turns out that when it all started, he was there, yes, no, he left from there, he was with you, yes, yes, he was with us, they were transported when on the twenty-fourth, well, as he said, their ship came, they said that they needed to leave there, they were all taken out, the ship seemed to be sunk, they were in some school, he spent the night from there in the morning he called us, come and pick me up, we went with him
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a friend took everything from there, he never went there again, the family of the search... group commander ivan beryukov lives in their home near mariupol, despite the fact that hostilities took place here, the house survived, even grapes are ripening in the garden, now i’m finishing harvesting them and i will pack for the winter, both sons are there, although one of them went to poland for a while in refugee status, but in order to return home it took several months to obtain the necessary documents, he returned back, he says, because here is home, here is better, they waiting for it to end check and chapter s... and they will let him go home if he suddenly gets on the exchange lists, right away , yes, he is there like a deserter, yes, i was worried too, i think, lord, we get up, and here everything is basics and basics, basics, we they would have shot them themselves if they had given us machine guns, although we were right on the switch, they break into all the shops in jeeps, but it’s like people with children who are looking for milk, he’s got vodka, they take everything, then, what do you need, good, you know, this vodka, all that,
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i want to remember, i’m on a contract, my husband went, these people are in a fight, in short, this is tough, not to feed the family - says natalya, before that at the factory i received only about 150 dollars a month, a place for service, i chose one that was far from the front line, and i 100 dollars and then i didn’t receive 100 dollars, i received 800 hryvnia in salaries, so it’s natural that we decided, we sat and thought about everything. it was as if they offered to go, well , from work they were forced from the factory to go somewhere to a school there, i don’t know, for a week, these were some courses there or something, they were kept for a week in short, there were some courses there, like tactical medicine or self-defense, i don’t know anything there, they say in particular some books there, they read something there, i don’t know, in general, then somehow, maybe they say to go there for a contract, really like i wish i could earn money there, but just to avoid fighting, i wouldn’t have agreed to go to war, but i went and found out, as if on the ship, that it
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wasn’t going anywhere, it was an old ship, it was actually in the port, then they came back, that’s it, it was in the morning i went and came home in the evening, i mean, nothing at all, you know, that’s it, i it was calm here. as if in general, absolutely, here in the city, too, on the first occasion, when they left school right away at night, not even 2 weeks had passed there. what do you have there, what do you have there? i, uh, i don’t cook anymore, oh, again, yes, i, yes, in the first days, when
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he let me go, i already started there, i came, i’m cooking, i’m standing, that is, i’m cooking, well that is, in principle, i have a clear conscience before all this, as you know, he says there, i’m an ordinary mechanic. marina calculated that if she if she didn’t come for her husband herself, then she would have to wait for his release for several years, this is the most, you know, sore subject now among a large number of people, but because, as far as i know, ukrainian prisoners of war on russian territory are being held somewhere in the region 7,000, maybe that’s me, maybe even more, the problem is that there are many times fewer russian prisoners of war in ukraine, three, at least three, and accordingly, the exchange fund is very different, well, there’s not enough for everyone, well, if it's seven, there, let’s say, there, well, well, i don’t know
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how many, but three times less, yes, then how will everyone return, this question worried me very much, and i even approximately calculated it when pasha was still in captivity, just by mathematics, yes, if exchanges were made there once, say in two months, some 100 people, when there were 120, when there were no exchanges, there for 3 months, yes, then pasha could be waited somewhere - then for more than 5-7 years, this is by exchange, thousands of the same relatives and wives followed the denouement of this story through social networks ukrainian prisoners of war, and now marina, having become a volunteer, is trying to help them meet their loved ones, too, when pasha was released, well, i had a barrage of sms a lot, on instagram, but how and what they communicated, i don’t know, but if you don’t collect
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, about 100 people, probably, so i’m thinking what should i do with all this, well, as they say, demand doesn’t hit you in the nose, i turned to daria morozova, i say, this way and that, relatives are turning to me, is it possible, maybe , we could somehow organize either a date or some kind of information, because many people don’t know that a person is in captivity , well, that is, i turned to her with this request, but she supported me, to start searching, she advises, you need to contact the commissioner for human rights, and there you fill out such a form, it is sent to the authorized person, somewhere within 14 days, well, around 2-3 weeks, it comes by email... answer: if such a person is being held captive on the territory of the russian federation, then it is indicated that yes, there is such a person, the state of health there is satisfactory, and
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the place of detention is not indicated, because it is confidential, no one will write this, but they write, either it is there, or it is absent, and you also need to submit a request to the dpr rights ombudsman, exactly the same appeal, which will also receive a response within a month , contacts the first... relatives, through electronic appeals, through hot lines, respectively, they live on the territory of ukraine, you understand that this is a very long way to come to the russian federation in order to see your loved ones, but nevertheless , relatives are in such a difficult life situation, they make such appropriate decisions, after which they seem to turn to us, we carry them out completely within the legal framework, that is, we provide full interaction, and then again with all interested authorities, we interact with them, in order to preserve their right to visit their relatives, you can kiss the top of the head again; establishing a connection between loved ones is very important and so that prisoners of war make the right
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decision for themselves, because many of them do not know what their family is on the side, i go to the guys in different colonies to visit relatives and what’s most interesting is that the guys who are in captivity, they don’t know what’s going on around them, yes, that’s the most important thing, it’s difficult for them to decide whether they want namin. to stay here, for them this is the most painful issue, because they don’t know where their relatives are, that is, this news that when they spread that they have learned at least something, because we have people who are there from mariupol, they stayed there and live, but there are those who went to ukraine there, and the guys don’t know this, they are asked there , do you want to exchange, he, well, yes, i want, there, that’s why you want, well, this is the only chance to contact there, and with your wife, that is, at least call her. it’s very important to do as many of these as possible with your family
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, perhaps then most people will refuse the exchange altogether, because their families are already on russian territory, now she helps organize meetings in places where prisoners of war are held, such meetings have passed already more than 40, as for the organization, everything happens with my help, with the help , in the dpr of daria morozova, she connects more people there, well, in russia it’s the same, that is, we have a date not only in the dpr, we will have dates take place on the territory of the russian federation, but this is only relevant for those who have relatives in russia, now why, no, they came. from ukraine, from kiev, people from europe came and how did they
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get through europe, through europe, although here is a family that came for the last dates, they were from ukraine, they generally gave such a circle there, through turkey and through georgia somehow they went, i don’t know this route, i only know through poland, latvia, lithuania, after our first dates 30 people were released, whose families in mariupol. berdyansk, that is, zaporozhye region, where it is practiced that people will be released. beryukov ivan evgenievich. kolchin vladimir vladimirovich, city of mariupol, military unit 35 national guard of ukraine, rifleman private. grebenyuk ivan ivanov
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born on november 25, 1999, a former soldier served in the tenth mountain assault brigade. among the prisoners of war, a fairly large number of those guys who are now on the territory of the russian federation express a desire to stay, because they understand that as soon as they arrive, they will be exchanged on the territory of ukraine. firstly, this is possibly criminal. well, again, on what basis, why was he captured, also this is one hundred percent sending to continue to fight on the line of contact, and accordingly, the guys don’t want to fight, so they want to continue to live peacefully, and even despite the long period that they will not see each other, so as not to continue to use weapons and not kill civilians. each of them has their own history, lives, service in the ukrainian army and captivity, they have one thing in common: now the family lives in new russian regions, they want to be with them, live in their home, if
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necessary, stand up for its defense, why do you want to stay in russia and not go for an exchange to ukraine, that is, ukrainian military personnel, because initially there was a conversation that in case of an aggravation, our families will be transported, that is, there, for example, to kharkov, there to kiev, that is... from dnepropetrovsk, but when the aggravation began, they called the command and asked what we should do with the families, that is, our family remains in mariupol, like, how do you evacuate, take them out, we were told, no, take them out yourself, as you wish, that is, this is not our problem, that is, how can i return to the state that abandoned me and my family, this is like one of important points, secondly, i am local, residents, that is, of the donetsk region, and this is my
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home, well, as my mother taught me from childhood, where i was born, i came in handy there, that is, that’s why i have no desire to leave donetsk, my daughter is growing up, my daughter will be 3 years old on november 5, well, there’s no point in me going there for any amount of millions to ukraine, my family is more important to me than these millions , well, as they say, they pay, they pay whoever they want, but i don’t need it, my family is more important to me, everything else i... i don’t want to go anywhere for any money, home is more important, i grew up here, studied here, well, the work here is all mine, for russian citizens it’s like being in the military. obliged, but are you ready to take on such responsibilities as a citizen of russia? well, this is a very difficult question, but if i receive a passport and, well, i am aware of all this, i kind of already know, then i’m ready, since this will already be my conscious choice. come to me!
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hello, well, come, look, go, hello, tyoma and nastyusha, i think about you every day, i miss you, it’s so quiet, i believe that very soon everything will end and we will be together again, everything is close to me, in my heart, i am grateful to god for giving me such a loving family as... kids, dad is very proud of you, take care of our mother, i also want to say hello to my mother, i hope, don’t worry about me, i’m fine, take care of your health, i hope that this is little news, after a long time of not seeing each other, it will be closer to the meeting, i hug you and i love,
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the wife of a prisoner of war oksana hall tells that when at the end of february. active hostilities began, my husband was in the hospital in kiev, but he was not fully treated, he was sent home to mariupol, his military unit, where he served as a mechanic, he never ended up because he was on sick leave in hostilities, neither then nor before did she participate, her conscience is from the tank, i didn’t offend anyone, i didn’t kill anyone, i didn’t take a weapon in my hands to kill people, i can’t imagine it at all, he didn’t do it, he worked partly on the spot, everything was in the cars there. then the whole family was looking for an opportunity to evacuate from the city in order to move to their mother and husband to the village, to the liberated territory of the donetsk people's republic, there was no connection, where there was nothing, they sat in the basement, worried, afraid, well, they didn’t know what to be more afraid, to stay, or to go, to get caught, then the shelling
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was strong, well, to get under shelling was scary, not to leave, to stay there, that's... i called once, there was a friend, i said, why then you? you’re sitting in europe and you’re going to tell me that i’m doing something wrong , i’m doing it the way i decided for myself, in our family we had our own choice, you had yours, and now, well, sit in it, she, excuse the expression, your ukraine wanted to shit on you, and now i’m saying, i have to stand up for it, my world is my family, yeah, that’s it, eh the rest, live where you want, do what
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you want, if i’m bad for you, forget me, and the main thing is, he came here, he didn’t run away anywhere. there was a local policeman, he went, he said that i’m here , i’m here and there, i served, i’m here, i’m not running away, i ’m not going anywhere, nothing, everything is here, that is, they didn’t catch him, he came himself , said, they all received russian passports, the wife found a job, the children went to school, a short video message to the son, husband and father with the hope of a speedy return, wondering how we are here we live and everything, everything is fine, we love you very much and are really waiting for you , and every day we look at the gate and see where you will come, don’t worry, everything will be fine, yes, look, and i didn’t leave for the city here, now marina received a russian passport, she says that the procedure took no more than two weeks, well, i am registered in berdyansk, and berdyansk is already the russian federation, everything is very
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simple here in moscow, you go to the ministry of internal affairs, and you show your registration, passport, well, they can close it and how to live with this dangerous thing is simpler simpler yes well it’s easier for me in terms of yes, that is, i know that i have a passport, i calmly go there on the subway, then the first time i went with a ukrainian, something, you know, there was still such excitement, but now they’ll stop you there, suddenly they’ll check your documents, but what am i going to tell you about why i kind of came from ukraine, well, in fact, nothing terrible would happen, because here... in moscow , in my opinion, ukraine has already arrived, and for ukraine now a simplified system has been developed, this is all, that is, they immediately give citizenship, not a residence permit, not this is temporary... here's accommodation, here's a passport right away, she says that she doesn't regret at all that russia became her homeland, no, we don't regret it, everything is very good here,
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well, let's just say, we didn't live like that in ukraine, so in terms of income, well, in general, in terms of income, only one pasha in the family works, but we have enough for everything, we rent a rather not cheap apartment, our son is studying with two tutors, so it’s like we live well, but what hindered in ukraine, well, there are no such salaries, she understands that there is a way to go, for whom she went through, it will be difficult for other ukrainian women, because many of them are threatened by the authorities, they are intimidated by ukrainian propaganda, but sooner or later, relatives who love each other must meet, and the power of this desire can overcome any obstacles. i always save my family, well , that is, any war will in any case end in negotiations of some kind, all politicians between and
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