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ask for something, secondly, they allowed biden to insult sizenpine, and then you stayed to have dinner with him, you see, in some aspects the question arises, why after this you should take the chinese seriously, you know, they can talk harshly, they can say a lot, but their actions show something else, it seems that in this way they say that in fact they are very dependent on the united states, and not vice versa, california, together with the mayor of san francisco , decided to clean up the streets only because the chinese came to visit , is a sign that they always have been. all this time
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, they just refused to do it, so it's just a show that challenges the ruling class at every level, they failed to meet the needs of american citizens, they cater to a foreigner, and then this foreigner comes here and he gets insulted and he doesn't make a big deal about it, so i really don't know what to think after seeing this because i would have thought that the chinese have. a little more self-respect, americans don’t understand anything about the chinese, this is a big problem, why china, quietly and calmly, for so many years, took a leading position, and the americans missed it, china has 4,000 years of written history and 5,000 years of oral history , china, which has seen everything, lived through a lot, it seemed disappeared forever from the political map of the world...
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at the end of the 19th century, the great empire has now been revived. the biggest mistake is to try to predict and explain china's actions using european and american standards. don't worry about china. our task is to look at where our strategic interests are, to understand what our strategic interests are, not to try to replace one master with another of our elite, but to understand that the only master of our elite... will have to be the russian people, and the only the task facing our people is to do everything to pass on to the next generation a developed, great country capable of providing protection to its citizens and the opportunity to realize their creative potential. olek viktorovich, i am impressed by two things: putin’s speech in st. petersburg, and biden
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’s, somehow it coincided that these were events, so to speak, close in time, either this article appeared on purpose, as a kind of answer, or it just happened that way , but - it is impossible not to compare and not feel that called a big difference, it’s not about who wrote this article, i agree with you, it really resembles okroshka, i even had difficulty reading it, because i’m so impressed that somehow it’s not even very plot-wise - one thing has to do with different, but what i see, which is why i draw a parallel between these events, is that one of the key points of putin’s speech in st. petersburg was the thesis that this vulgar globalization, which is associated with the actions of the united states america, this the american-centric world multiplies conflicts.
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and this is what russia is rebelling against today and what, uh, what the modern world should get rid of, uh, it seems to me that biden’s article is another manifesto of this vulgar globalization of these principles of vulgar globalization, because the united states with the persistence that worthy, of course, of better use , they continue to insist that, by and large, it leads to the fact that an increasing number of countries will oppose this vulgar globalism for, by the way, here is the story with china, i will also say a few words about this, this is a great example , but i would like to say something now, if you allow me, i will share one very important memory, in my opinion, also relevant - to the topic under discussion, this is another thesis of putin from
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his speech in st. petersburg about, uh, he said that until i was fourteen it could not have occurred to me that there could be such a conflict between... russia and ukraine. i would like to remind those present that when this whole story began in 1914, i worked in the administration president, headed the department for internal policy, was, as they say , in the thick of events when this historic decision was made in part of crimea. and returning to putin’s words, i can say the following. who at that time came to the presidential administration, probably, i don’t know, but probably met with putin , talked about this topic, i will give only one
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example, and it seems to me very indicative, even when it was clear that a referendum would take place in crimea, but it was not yet clear what issues would be brought up for discussion and brave, absolutely decisive, courageous, there are a lot of examples from his personal biography, which , well, this confirms, so he came to me, and i saw such, you know, a confused talker, a rare case, and he told me, listen, how about this if suddenly... this is a decision, if suddenly crimea goes to russia, and what will happen next, and how, what will happen in the world, how will we live after this, this, this is really, this is a meaningful, thoughtful decision, this i can absolutely
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say in my spirit that it was very difficult decision, and of course, to be honest, i made this decision. putin, on a personal level, it was his decision, it was his historical choice. and when we now say that the world has come to the current state of tectonic changes and the denial of this vulgar globalization, then this is the price of this decision of putin. i can correct you, because i saw this process and then talked with the president, in one of the interviews, the president talked about this situation and said that until the last moment he was waiting for
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the votes were counted, and when i became convinced that this was really the will of the people, then this decision was ripe, because people’s expectations could not be deceived. that is, this is just a true manifestation of democracy, that is, moreover, on the eve, even before the referendum, putin was waiting for an order to conduct a large-scale sociological survey, they interviewed several tens of thousands of people, crimeans and sevastopol residents, and the will, well, the supposed will of the expression is from these sociological studies it was clear, but you are absolutely right, without these numbers, which then appeared, this political decision, of course , would not have taken place. but now i want to say something else. you know, getting rid of chimeras is a very difficult process, because crimea also passed, you know, this cannot be, then there is something in it, well, as always, and then, how could it be otherwise, here we are living today, and how could it be otherwise, yes, nothing else
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could have happened, but i remind you that after crimea, i was a participant in these events, because i was in crimea at that time, 10 business trips after the referendum, politicians and military men said, what are we we’re not going any further, why aren’t we resolving the issue? with novorossiya, i don’t know if i’ll definitely be in the assessment now, but it seems to me that the fact that we didn’t immediately make these decisions was... a response to the state in which we were still in then, we we were also captured by these immers, because for crimea we understood that the legal basis for crimea being part of ukraine is questionable, so it’s possible to do this, here, given that donbass and novorosiya have been part of ukraine since twenty -two, we, we thought, is it right? there will be such a decision, although the situation was very similar, not since the twenty-second year, well, since its formation. 1900 1920 i’m just trying to point out the century, yes, from the moment, well, not
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from you, from the moment of the formation of the ussr, and in fact, getting rid of these chimeras is eight years of attempts to implement the minsk agreements, only understanding, final understanding, reading biden’s article that you can’t be guided by international norms... another, despite the fact that putin is absolutely the same for everyone, everyone follows, or is this something he says correctly, we do not renounce membership of the un, it would be funny, we are the founders of the un, we do not renounce the principles of international law, but it was not for nothing that we changed the constitution in the twentieth year, in the twentieth year we wrote down that the constitution, our national state interests, our citizens, this is the highest value of our state, and this led to
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this decision, and now another thesis about these chimeras about vulgar globalization, so i believe that the negotiations between xi and biden can be assessed differently from the point of view of who there won, who lost, i’m not really a supporter of looking for an answer to the question of who succeeded more, it seems to me that the most important thing in these negotiations is that china... has once again proven, publicly proven that it also refuses these chimeras , he, too, is leaving the captivity of this global, vulgar globalization, because the blue one bought into two approaches that biden tried to pull off, the first ukrainian approach, biden expressed his concern, and did not react to them, the second, i’m not sure that’s how it was , but at least one exists. allegedly, biden proposed this exchange, that let us return to the issue of the supply
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of high-tech products to change your position on energy resources received from russia. xi did not react to this. he did what he wanted, in this sense, xi proceeds from the same principles from which we proceed, above all the national state interests of china, the interests of china... he realizes through all the goals that are proclaimed today in the foreign policy arena, it seems to me that these are this is very important today for understanding the modern world, if excuse me, i think that in the fourteenth year we could not solve the task, for two reasons, i know, we already argued about this, yes, no, for two reasons, the first was the weakness of our economy at that time and its high level dependence, in particular agriculture, everything else, then we are in degree. lost greatly compared to what happened many years later, the second we just emerged from a coup attempt
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inspired by foreign intelligence services, carried out through navalny and others. and our internal state was far from the consolidation that is now, including the presence of an active fifth column among large entrepreneurs among high-ranking officials, let 's agree, but let's add my argument, which seems to me - the argument undoubtedly supports just one more plus a very important point i want to remind you in what state our armed forces were in 1914, we did not yet have declared strategic superiority in the nuclear component, we did not yet presented those developments that were ready , that is, therefore , if you like, we did not have a deterrent factor to stop the nato countries from taking drastic steps, a reform that caused colossal damage... under the leadership of not makarov and the then
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minister of defense led to the fact that let me remind you that we didn’t have enough pilots , what we were faced with, when the operation in syria began, we had to extend the service life of the pilots, we even had equipment, but not here, we were just starting this process of restoring the armed forces, so of course, with that , what what the ukrainian army was like back then, we could have sorted it out if the nato countries tried to interfere. we didn’t have a club to threaten them and stop them, then let me remind you that we didn’t have syria, which means we couldn’t hold back all attempts in the mediterranean. and this is a very important counterbalance to any movements of nato, because the emergence of crimea, and then syria, has already created this necessary military, well, let’s say , an overhanging, but clear military threat in the event of unreasonable behavior of the americans in the mediterranean in the black sea, well, again, i not military professional, very superficial
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deletant analysis of the jacket, mikhailovich, i would like to immediately. your thought regarding the fact that the changes that are happening everywhere, most importantly, are not just happening, they have already happened in our heads, that is, imagine what they are talking about today at everyone, in the entire vertical and horizontal, regarding the future of russia today it’s difficult for russia, of course, and 10 years ago, and this is a statement, as for biden, one thing strikes me here is that everyone understands, the whole world understands who heads... the country, everyone laughs at this, each in different ways, but understands that this is absurd, and at the same time the system continues to live, exist and pose a threat to many countries of the world, and this suits many for now, against this background, of course what’s striking is that russia is winning categorically today politically, today it’s not just about isolation, we’re talking about the leading initiatives
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of our president and the country as a whole, in the political space implemented with our alliances. and this is the number of people and sympathizers and countries are increasing, when we talk about diplomacy we observe similar successes; in the military field, even today we are generally trying to restrain ourselves in these assessments, realizing that everything is still ahead, but one phrase from our president is that we have not started yet, at least at least, well, it makes us all think that apparently he knows and sees much more, not only him, this suggests that in many areas russia today is becoming truly sovereign, and of course, against this background, returning to the economy, i want to say , which is the basis of everything this should already happen today to a significant extent in the economic sphere, but here we must talk about it tirelessly, because you yourself also mentioned the idea that ultimately all the issues here are within the country, since secondly, the future of russia is
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the future of our life, our citizens, our system, only with this we can not only protect our own, but also help others, and most importantly move forward, so here i cannot help but dwell on the problems, i am far from thinking about personalizing and expressing them some critical remarks, but what worries me is that today in the economic sphere we are not yet sufficiently adequate to the positions in which i mentioned in the political and military sphere. we recently had a topic related to monetary policy, with a discussion of monetary policy. i’m not talking about individual moments here, but about the fact that we here... disagree, unfortunately, this is, this is not, as it were, a negative, this is a statement of fact, look, today we again disagree on something seemingly elementary moment, what inflation is, we constantly hear that the goal of today’s economic life of our country should be the fight against inflation, but inflation, i want to emphasize this again, is not when there is a lot of money, but when there are few goods,
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and it would seem that this seemingly simple explanation leads to tectonic changes , including in monetary policy, but if we proceed from the fact that the central bank today is struggling with an excess of money, as it seems to him, then hence the increase in the discount rate, here what happened the day before when the ruble exchange rate changed against the dollar? everything was more or less stable, i’m not talking about unemployment, inflation, at least we stated that its level was stable enough for the economic process, suddenly the dollar exchange rate suddenly increases and we get... that imported inflation, because that for these big rubles, for this dollar, we began to receive goods, consequently, our internal inflation began to accelerate, the central bank immediately reacted, that this was realized inflation expectations, it would be necessary to raise the discount rate, this is a classic model written there by liberals all over the world, yes , it works, yes it works, so what, what did we
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get with you, we received a 15% discount rate for today with the central bank's expectations of an increase by the end of the year by a certain number. what led, what was the consequence of this? we received a corresponding reduction in production and, accordingly, yes, demand will decrease, but you and i will receive a completely different reaction, as a result of an increased interest rate influenced the growth rate of our economy, so i asked this question on your program, and then i had the opportunity to address the leadership of the central bank directly with whom, and here one of the former heads of the central bank is now wanted, alex sashenko. it turned out, as it was, as it was in the classical song, about the father of nations, not a father, yes, not a father, but a bitch, yes, excuse me, yes, what am i talking about, what do i mean... now first i stole a lot of money from game in the state defense committee, but cunningly slipped, which westerners naturally do not care about, a classic corrupt official, and now
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is developing sanctions against our country, a proud student of the central bank, he held a major position there, using the knowledge of experience, so, uh, when i asked the head of the central bank, what is not satisfactory about the growth rates that we had there until the third quarter, but the first ones there are very a beautiful phrase that the trajectory... of balanced growth there expected in 2 years will come to the numbers, 2.5%, i say, but the number five or 10 does not suit me at all, who drew the trajectory for them, so no , i would like to see the pissing pigeon of progress, that is it’s just where do they get this attitude from, i respectfully, i’m talking about the pigeons of progress, that is, who drew this trajectory, what kind of trajectory it is, but the explanation is not entirely convincing, because i wanted to hear why it’s not satisfactory, the next phrase turned out to be that yes russian e can grow faster, but why can it, it should grow faster, i would generally like to hear not only from the central bank, in general from people who are involved in the economic sphere today,
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what should be, because we should be concentrated in a single team to implement the tasks that are set, they are not not so weak tasks, so it can grow, and when i asked why this word might not be transformed into numbers, it turned out that we had fallen quite low, here in twenty-two, and today there is such a sharp rise in the region of 5% of gdp growth for the three quarters of the previous year, yes, we caught up, and then that’s it, i say, wait, what’s next, but we can’t grow further, there are not enough resources, what resources? means here it’s clear that there is old equipment that needs modernization, the acquisition of robotics and so on, low wages, then we are talking about the fact that there is not enough manpower at all, and so on, wait, these are resources, they are, they are present in our life, they simply must be involved with the help of the central bank through banknotes in our economy, physical, this physical metal
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that exists, it must be given economic life, that is, it must simply be supplied with money, that is, valued and get him started production, how come there are no resources when we talk about labor, come on, listen, this is already a serious question, i don’t deny that there are problems, but let’s still say frankly, the question was asked, how many of these are needed? hard workers? we don’t know, it’s a good question, maybe the problem is not in manpower, hands, ignorance, but today the government, thank god, under the leadership of mishustin, is introducing forms of macroeconomic planning that involve understanding and forecasting for the near future, including the work of power, but if back to the facts, today our unemployment there is 2-3%, it has a concrete expression in millions of people, hidden unemployment, known to any economist who has read a polynomial textbook, is the concept of hidden... traditionally three times higher than official unemployment, respectively, this you understand the numbers, they are already growing many times over, and the 10 million citizens of ukraine who have come to the territory is not a resource,
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and if we talk to you about the raw material orientation of our industry, isn’t there enough professional the potential of people who don’t need to go anywhere, they just need to move a little away from the extracted resources towards processing it, but believe me, probably with the help of... state support - this is a solvable issue, i’m not saying that the problem can be completely solved, but the fact that it is becoming less acute, and as the head of the central bank says today, the problem is not in money, but in the lack of labor, well, i see a discrepancy, then we are talking, again i am worried about the following, because look, it is being laid the main problem, i say, why 4% , well, what, why for such a magical figure of 4%, why not 3.9, not 4.1, because in chinese 4 is the number of death, i will say this, i answer i didn’t receive it, but i received an answer from one of the deputies there on the sidelines, he said: “well , this is a conditional value, i say, wow, conditional, with it we go out to communicate with
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deputies, and these deputies, not all of them have economic knowledge, they take it at face value, and then they explain to the population, well, they explain why this is so, then it happened said, well, look, we get it, it turns out that the main source of development of our economy is the money supply that the population has, well, the enterprise located in banks. listen, of course, i understand everything, but maybe we’ll add something else to it, but if you imagine, and this is a classic model there from the 19th century, yes, bankers came in from door to door, i don’t know, they collected money there, collected it, then distributed them, but listen, the modern banking system lives by completely different parameters, and when you and i are saying that this may not be entirely true, i asked , but this is so, they told me, well, it’s like that, no, i’m sorry, i even wrote it down, and this is a figure of speech, a figure of speech, and semyon semyonovich these are words parasites, well, not everyone understood everything, but a turn of phrase, a turn of phrase, and from this the following assessment follows : look, money has come to the banking sector,
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how glad are we? 14% deposit, well , that’s what people earn, but when they put money in the bank, they take it out from where, from demand, they don’t buy goods, so industry has nothing sell, but we explained a very simple thing, it seems to me, that if you modernize production, build new factories and really implement import substitution, then goods will appear when, well, in 2-3 years, i agree, 2- you have to live for 3 years, but our country is not zimbabwe, listen, we have a potentially, not really, huge surplus in the foreign trade balance, which means during this time, at a normal ruble exchange rate, you and i are purchasing imported goods, we begin to fill this production pause and after 2 -3 turnover has already begun, i’m not talking about small medium-sized businesses, which, which do not need 2-3 years, are filled with the commodity mass that our country needs, everything that our economy needs is produced within the country, why send us to something that
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is unrealizable, but we don’t do this, they tell us, well, how can this be, then what is the gap and they explain to me that well, look , it turns out that the discount rate, which today is 15%, because they ask the question, where can it be applied? , where, where is the area of activity where you can give 20%, 25, drugs, prostitution, well, there are still a couple, but i don’t have an answer to this question, they tell us that the growth of the credit supply is growing, this hasn’t happened for 10 years, here i agree, it hasn’t happened for 10 years, the question is why it hasn’t happened for 10 years, why is it 20% now? by the way, not today, literally until the third quarter, but it hasn’t been there for 10 years, there is a question, there is, when we talk, the cost of money, they explain to me, they ask, well , industry needs long-term money, in conditions of high inflation, there should be long-term money can’t, i agree, maybe we can work with inflation, but if the value of money, look, the phrase, the value of the discount rate is the value of short money, and the value of long money is determined,
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what do you think? knowledge of inflation, i have a question, but if the central bank expects 4% inflation in 2 years, maybe you and i will go to the bank and get these loans at 4% for 10 years, well , it’s an official bank, it’s already expecting it, how ’s that you know, this is not me, i understand that this is a separate moment and here i would not want to look like such a critic, that’s all, i would just like to hear the following, why today is all this, if today there is a decrease in the exchange rate. yes, the increased exchange rate led to the fact that inflation slowed down, it slowed down not because of this, but because the presidential decree was associated with the mandatory sale of foreign exchange earnings, and accordingly decreased, that’s all, there are results, so my opinion is that if the central bank expanded a little interprets its powers, perhaps we will continue this expanded interpretation until the central bank becomes part of the government and ceases we will finally contrast the ideas of the central bank and the government as one single whole, before moving on to
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advertising in support of what says... we see colossal growth rates in the military-industrial complex, why? but because they are credited differently, because money flows there differently , while we are told, well, you had partial mobilization, this means 3,000 men left , we are told that now more than 400 thousand people have signed contracts there , i understand, yes , 7,000 people, but the minimum came to us. that is we are talking about the fact that we have plus 10 million hands, yes, children, old people, women, who by the way also work, but when we take it into account, we definitely cannot talk about a shortage of labor, the question arises of finding, training and motivating it, look,
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growth rates in agriculture, growth rates in the construction industry, growth rates in those sector managers who are involved in this, speaking about the private sector, look, we have stopped talking altogether, for example, about the fact that there are problems with clothing in the army, why , because i connected in that including the private sector, we are now all talking there about amazing lancets of different generations, and why did this happen, it was a private development. it was a development, there zakharov is leading it, well done, but it was picked up by the state, fed with money, gave opportunity, created conditions, here you go, development, then now they have made technoparks that sergei semyonovich sobyanin made, where small companies come there and there are doing amazing things that are now being widely implemented in the military-industrial complex, and funding, absolutely right, denis valentinovich mantarov carried out a whole system of brilliant work there
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