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[000:00:00;00] a game in one form or another, during the day for oneself, the best psychotherapist for both an individual russian person and for russian society as a whole, absolutely, i absolutely agree, in general, practically everything that is contained in folk culture is psychotherapy, i went on an ethnographic practice with the university after my second year, and there i heard authentic folklore for the first time, it was a cossack ensemble, this music made me cry, and after that, returning to moscow, some kind of internal culture associated with my family, and how- that together, folklore, traditional culture, the search for myself through my family, helped me answer the question, why am i here and what
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he is the only one, anton, i have this question for you: you work as a designer for a modern person living, well, probably, most likely in some metropolis, in a big city. and trying to look fashionable, yes, well, in a good way, on the other hand you use, exploit some kind of russian, orthodox even aesthetics, let’s say, there are those who don’t see, well, except, on the sleeves, the skimnik’s prayer, yes, skimnik monk, such a passion for such orthodox aesthetics, well, not only formal, from
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a substantive point of view, at the same time... turning to some current fashion, and how is it all in one thing - it merged in your head and then, in fact, became such a reality, well, somehow i was carried away by this even just the aesthetics of the russian hinterland of orthodoxy and in general, well i didn’t seem to have it in my head that there was anything else, so it turns out that i couldn’t do anything else because i was imbued with this aesthetic from childhood, embodying it already. a new form, a more modernized form, and such a more understandable form now, and again, to me it seems that this is precisely the progress
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that lies in the fact that you take something old, combine it with the new, you get something new, in general, on the theme of russia, patriotism. on the topic of traditions and so on, but for a long time your brand was sold there only in japan, despite the fact that it was extremely popular there, why do you think this happened? well, yes, it’s like such a fact, mm, i think that ah, well, i don’t think so, but for some reason it happens that if we can discuss this topic for a long time and find out why? this is happening, here, but a fact is a fact, there is no prophet in one’s own fatherland, yes, i think here one can reflect on the topic that there is simply a deep, original russian culture, in all
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its manifestations, which we, there for various reasons, during how it reads , he wants to talk about it, how to somehow touch it, as something real, and a person, russian, yes, living in russia, more often than not, to him, since he no longer absorbed it from childhood, yes, for him , but he saw something, felt something, but does not fully feel this integrity of this statement, he may it seems that there was a lot of good things in the time, but what was negative , it’s like this is the first truly project in the world , that is, globalism is a complete break from tradition and from a specific land, so the connection was really destroyed
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generations in many ways, the connection with the land was destroyed, and even, they still felt, well, when you do something truly connected with tradition, it becomes interesting to a person who has his own culture, but for this it is necessary to do something of your own. rather than try to do something for others, for this you must first of all love yourself , this is what you do, yes, it must be connected with your land, again, if we talk about psychotherapy and continue, then well, with some of my people who are skeptical about this are swinging and going, my children will live 100 points in this since childhood, i really want it, because it’s not only because it’s cool, but because in principle, when... since childhood there’s some -that’s just the thing, then it’s a matter of understanding and some kind of consciousness, it
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seems to me that it’s easier to simply grow, that’s all, for example, in general, i realized that i don’t want to bring anything from the material world, but would like to bring faith and peace, great, then put it on me, tell me, here... for generations, well, in culture, yes, in everyone, do you think this can happen, and those manifestations of culture, and those who live on this earth now, will live, yes, and can culture return? traditionalism and real progressiveness and what needs to be done for this, culture cannot exist without tradition, the principle, what concerns this
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phrase, as it were, but what a message: tea the resurrection of the dead and the life of the next century, a person thinks about this, and what is tea the resurrection of the dead , you know, a unique, unique moment, a unique experience, by the way, for tv viewers, for the majority, it’s good to translate, i hope, devices, units and in general how yes, recording sound, so... like, this anticipation of this colossal step , civilizational, technocratic step, yes, made it possible to record the voices of passing generations, and this was done by hundreds, i don’t know, thousands of folklorists, such workers of the invisible front, as an opportunity to meet the voice of their ancestor, this is what tea on sunday is.
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but what he is, if we talk about this, well, from a historical, sort of point of view, yes, he is a message of love to descendants, it is always relevant, it is literally a direct message of love, so we don’t tell you anything we can bequeath, we can inherit for you, this is the resurrection of the dead, when we return to this wisdom and live with it in our arms, understand? that this is love, as it is in its pure form, the love of our fathers, great-grandfathers and so on, our ancestors, for us, for our future descendants, at the first folk camp i argued terribly with everyone and said that girls should have the right to lift their legs in dancing jump high, because i don’t understand what kind of discrimination it is to be restrained, that through restraint you can express yourself much more than through some kind of splashing and fluffing yourself up. and you know, i want
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to descend a little from the fundamental heavens to earth, but at the same time, it’s like to cling to these words, tea is the resurrection of the dead, but in a completely different sense, here you are, now there is large tea on the resurrection of the dead, and that means skulls and bones, and i put it on with pleasure, which means that this aesthetics is somewhere, it intersects precisely with what anton is doing, i have this reflection, the question is actually for you, that on the one hand, i am an orthodox person, and i seem to understand everything that stands behind these words, on the other hand, i understand perfectly well, that some of the people who see me are radically extreme, somehow postmodern, ironic, cool , cool, to what extent did you consciously choose this particular path, this kind of dichotomy, some kind of duality, or simply?
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you can say that, well, i consciously took the road of broadcasting orthodox values and the spirit of orthodoxy, russian, russian orthodoxy in clothes, and someone else somehow perceives this, well, how can i say, for me, everyone is like this a design decision is a lot of thinking about how it will look from the outside, let’s say will i wear this and who, who will understand how it will be, and whether it will cause some kind of negative reaction, and some decide whether i should make this or that design or not, so they go to the japanese later, about this drawing with a skull , tea resurrection of the dead, i even have one jacket, but by the way, one jacket, one sample, just with this skull, but for some reason, in general... i doubted and decided, that i’ll probably wait a while with this,
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yes, because it can be perceived just to some extent, so, i always remember, after all, in a soviet school , i don’t know when it was decided, there in the thirties or in the forties, in music lessons they sang, played, i don’t know, they danced, certain soviet songs were created again... absolutely everyone knows this , that is, there is no problem in singing, yes , dance something and something like this also begins, yes, so in principle, if at school, i don’t know, in kindergarten there is a conscious introduction of, well, elements of, well, national culture, yes, well, only real national culture, and not
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spilled raspberries. there will also be a problem like this to distinguish everything, yes, here are the brains, in order to solve these problems, i will explain why , but because - like folklore, well, in such a simple understanding of it, yes, this is the heritage of my ancestors, not abstract, but my concrete ancestors, my specific ancestors had a certain postscript, dad was for example sabova there, and mom was istula, so it’s like this is a combination of cultures... and these are different, and from the point of view of the father’s eyes, the mother’s , how to unite somehow it’s even difficult to do yes, my father predominates in me then my mother and father’s blood is boiling in me, and so on and so on, and you know, to solve the problem of unification, what it means to teach people folklore, that is, we each, in theory, in our place should, we must solve this problem, in school it is very difficult to solve it, because
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as soon as we knocked out the trans-baikal school and so on and went, to the trans-baikal school, the trans-baikal school, and to the arkhanel arkhanel school, that is, each time we will need to solve the problem in our own way, but it seems to me that this problem needs to be solved at the family level, we need to dig out our own roots, we must meet with their ancestors, with their voices, to restore this order, and then consolidate in this seemingly successful business, this felt, on the one hand, such a modern russianness, not something awkward or theatrical, but something modern and we started looking for those same russian designers, well, actually. well, actually, anton, for example, and these excellent lights there, or this levelsuut studio , which makes jacketed kosovorodki, traditional, of course, yes, a barbaric bunch, but still a sufficient amount of some young designers who, with the so-called russian code
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, are there in every sense, yes, this word works, with it, with this code, yes, i listened carefully to boris on this matter, i... am also an optimist, in fact, yes , here, but first of all, you didn’t invite pyatnitsky’s choir, for example, to this studio, yes, to talk with him, it’s clear that this is just a product of artistic creativity, which probably appeared there half a century ago, probably the so -called folklore movement, that is, a movement facing the roots, facing its own own, that is, people wondered and began to look around, what exactly is our culture, where did this culture appear... an appeal to the roots and today it is going through half a century of history, and this is already the third generation, and these are no longer dozens of crazy people who wondered about this in 2019, lived in a green house, a world of such beauty, such simplicity, sincerity and at the same time depth opened up that i could not
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refuse it, came to moscow, gradually quit all my past jobs and turned towards folklore , decided to make your own project... such a large-scale question, well, let’s say, russian literature exists , yes, it has global significance, yes, even russian painting, well, maybe not to the same extent as literature, but it still has global significance , russian music, of course, yes, russian fashion, well, by and large. after all, well, somehow no, yes, could russian fashion become some kind of phenomenon in the future, which is something that symbolizes their russianness, then the world will begin to perceive this as a big phenomenon, this could happen at all? well
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