[000:00:38;00] studio five is on the air, my name is anton potkovenko, we will start by discussing the latest news from the middle east, it has become known that the humanitarian ceasefire in the gas sector will begin no earlier than friday, no earlier than november 24, the media

, citing the israeli side, say: that the reason for this is that israel has not yet received lists with the exact names of those hostages who must be released by hamas, and negotiations are ongoing, negotiations are ongoing, the news agency reports this with reference to the national security council of israel, i remind you that we are talking about a four-day pause, during which an exchange is expected , an exchange according to the following scheme: 50 israeli hostages who were captured on october 7 for 150 palestinian prisoners from israeli prisons, which is currently joining to the fifth studio ambassador extraordinary plenipotentiary of israel to russia, alexander benswi, mr. ambassador, i greet you, mr. ambassador, can you hear

me? now we, now we will establish communication, the subject of our conversation will become, humanitarian pause, ceasefire in the middle east for the purpose of exchange, mr. ambassador, can you hear me, i see you, but in my opinion, at the moment there are still no connections... no, we currently need to establish contact with alexander ben zvii, we are the plenipotentiary ambassador of israel to russia, to find out all the latest information, the latest on the upcoming exchange , a little later, a little later there will be contact with mr. ambassador, for now we will move on to another issue on the international agenda,

berlin will present to ki a new military package assistance in the amount of 1 billion 300 million euros, this includes an air defense system, irist, and radars, and reconnaissance drones will be there, and 20,000 artillery shells, 155 mm caliber, about this and other issues, we will talk with konstantin gavrilov, now the head of the delegation russia in vienna on issues of military security and arms control, communications with the fifth studio, konstantin yuryevich, i welcome you, hello, hello, before we move on to the issue of new supplies from the west to kiev, i would like to talk about this ask you the day before the russian delegation, which you lead, raised objections to blocking the agenda of the osce forum for security co-operation, please tell us, in fact, what caused this, what the consequences are, this is a very

interesting topic, because you understand, the forum is used instead of being a mechanism arms control , first a special military operation, it is used by western delegations, mainly anglo-saxons, as a pressure machine, propaganda, as they say, isolation of russia, in the same thing, that they do, they accuse us, although they cannot provide a single fact, not a single piece of evidence ... can we show documentary facts of how the civilian population of donbass is being killed, they are targeting kindergartens, hospitals, and so on, of course, this infuriates them, they tried to put on the agenda an issue that had nothing to do with the mandate of our autonomous osce body. you mean,

information exchange, information war. conditions of hostilities, and you know what questions they ask there, who lies more, men or women, homosexuals or women, can you imagine, laughter, so we announced in advance that we do not accept such topics, they go beyond the scope of the mandate, and yesterday, after a heated discussion and after the hysteria that the anglo-saxons threw, that this cannot be done, we are on based on the rules of procedure, they did not approve the agenda for this meeting, in fact the meeting was closed , they discussed it in an informal format, that is, without translations, without registration, without anything, so they can discuss their dregs

as much as they see fit, here the whole prehistory, now we use this tool very actively, and they really don’t like it, but nevertheless, we will not allow them to press in this way and all sorts of ... nonsense, like the destruction of mice in combat conditions , we will not discuss intend. that is, it turns out that canada is there, yes, in particular, i looked at our statement, in particular canada, and this gender issue in quotes began to be raised, and in general we are talking about the fact that this platform, it turns out, yes the western side is used for some kind of disunity there is more, yes absolutely, so we are trying to consolidate, you know, more and more, supporters are appearing, for example , yesterday after my speech, when we closed this whole shop, here is an anonymous person, several anonymous persons, three or four, without a number, hidden id, written in english, we fully support your speech, just like that, i

didn’t bother to find out who it is, but the understanding is maturing, maturing, in the depths of the forum, that ukraine will soon collapse, no matter how. .. and like the nazi regime and at any moment, and this is what they say, experts who don’t really sympathize with us, but make it clear that at any moment the front can fail, and without the help that you said was minuscule, without the help of the americans pumping up weapons, all this will collapse very quickly, no matter how they they didn’t want to say it, but they already did. here is konstantin, exactly what we started with, what you mentioned, berlin is again supplying weapons to kiev, yes, this is how it can be regarded, this is what the west

is going to play for a long time, this is the logic, but with another on the other hand, there really is an understanding , because the armed forces are doing worse and worse, it is no longer possible to hide it, in the international media, more and more information is beginning to appear that everything is very bad. it’s difficult for the armed forces of ukraine, why should berlin support it then or is this not an independent decision and they tell berlin to support it. here everything is together, here everything is together, you look at the recent speech of pavel president of the czech republic at the visegrad four, europe must prepare for a protracted, high-intensity war, this is the former commander of the joint headquarters for the former, he is now the president of the czech republic, these are their opinions brojat, and firstly, the germans, who used to hide behind the backs of the americans, are now ahead of the rest, they are trying to go out of their way to prove, the logic here

is unclear , absolutely, but even here there are few experts, our colleagues, western military advisers and simply diplomats with whom we have such trusting relationships. they say quite clearly that the euro-atlantic, this is natural, nato and the united states, are no longer able to compete with the russian military-industrial complex, well, for example, i will not quote an official source, i find this in open sources that can be found, that is, for example, in 10 months of this year, 27 tanks were delivered there in ukraine, we don’t have our own and they are being supplied, we have a regiment of 100. a month is being installed , and they have 27 armored fighting vehicles, we also have about a hundred, we have 50 self-propelled artillery systems, they have 15, 16,

17 times more artillery systems are supplied to the front by us than by them, uh, i’m not saying about planes that they actually no longer have, all this shows that yes, apparently, for the battle for ukraine, this is one of the battles that they will lose, but this does not mean, in my opinion , that they will calm down, the americans will surround us from all sides along the borders, so they will create pressure, but they also have a problem, look, taiwan, now israel, they are spreading too thin. everything, it doesn’t rule out

that they can overstrain themselves on this, of course , money can be printed constantly, but the debt is already growing, a trillion just for servicing per year, it turns out or per month, i don’t remember, therefore, the situation is complicated, but russian troops are moving, they are moving slowly, we have our own problems, we don’t have enough counter-battery warfare, we don’t have enough satellite warfare. our leadership is actively working on this, everything is improving, and the artillery of the westerners is more precise, again , we are filling up all these gaps, on the go, learning and moving forward, so winter will most likely determine everything, and these supplies are scanty, they are unlikely to they’ll decide, well, for the time being they’ve been given 20, well, there’s another dozen

or so and a half to two scalps and... and missiles stormshedou, so what, during this time we made 800 daggers, caliber x555, x-101, the most effective, that’s why they are very afraid, it’s not for nothing that pavel says such things that we need to prepare for war, but how to fight they can, we know, all this goes through like a knife through butter, they are scared to death to fight with the russians, they are abandoning and for now throwing everything they can to help the ukrainians. you mentioned the united states, the middle east conflict, and actually money and the size of the trenches. loit osin, yes, the chief of the pentagon, the other day he visited kiev, he announced that there would be another tranche, but uh, 100 million dollars is the amount of this tranche, please evaluate this, after all, by the standards, we were traveling, remember, a few weeks ago burns,

the head of the cia, was there , now austin, they come from the kiev clown to calm down, they have a big conflict there, here’s how to support him morally, you hold on, you hang on here while we solve financial problems, of course, they will somehow help them, something... then seek, cheat, and so on, but so far the budget has not been blocked, so far israel is their priority, on the agenda, the americans. internal political kitchen, it is very complex, i don’t think they will either, not as easily as afghanistan, they will not leave, but most likely they will be forced to somehow reduce, and this means reducing assistance, including financial assistance, which it’s also being stolen, well, reduce it, and this will have an effect, the ukrainians are now shelling our positions much less, and not only because they have a hunger for shells,

apparently in such conditions it’s already like in in desperation they are abandoned like meat, there is a lot of meat, there are not enough weapons yet, there are not enough shells yet, so it’s not in vain that experts fear that the front could collapse at any moment, and then it’s like an avalanche, in the context it could be this, german chancellor olaf scholz said during the summit, this virtual g20 summit , which was held online, that is, he called on our president to complete the special operations in ukraine, he said to withdraw troops from the territory of ukraine so that this war would finally end, the end quotes, he called on vladimir putin for this, how do you evaluate this message from berlin , as they say, at the same time they continue to supply weapons, well, how is this rhetoric sent, they send a lot of taftology messages, only our message, it is very simple:

do it the goals of our special military operation, we are ready to do this peacefully and sign the relevant agreements, but the goals that the president set in his speech in our december proposals that were conveyed to the americans must be fulfilled, on these conditions we are ready to talk with them, they are not ready yet, all these songs, americans, uh, ukrainians, germans and others, that everything is being brought out, everything is on the border of 99, well, within the limits of the ninety-first year, ukraine was all within limits. soviet union, just like that, thank you, thank you very much, thank you very much for the conversation, konstantin gavrilov, head of the russian delegation in vienna on military security and arms control, was in touch with the fifth studio, and now we return to alexander bensvia, extraordinary plenipotentiary israeli ambassador to

russia is in touch with the fifth studio, at the beginning of the release we were just trying to get in touch, now, apparently, there is a connection, mr. potsol, can you hear me? i hear, good afternoon, good, hello, so, the most important topic, of course, is a humanitarian ceasefire, this is a pause for the exchange, respectively, of palestinian hostages and prisoners, please tell me, is it true that this will happen tomorrow, what is the time frame, how was it possible to achieve similar, similar, similar exchanges, and what prospects can there be? be? well, first of all, how could this be achieved, it is very simple, when hamas begins to feel that it is in big problems, especially under the pressure of our, our armed forces, they have no way out and they immediately begin to look for some other solutions

, which had already been on the table for a long time, but for some reason they didn’t want to do them, so the solution is very simple, yes, breakfast in theory, which should have first even been talked about today, but there are some problems, as far as i understand, between qatar and hamas, but in theory this should start tomorrow this break in hostilities is 4 days, and the exchange, therefore, of our hostages for a group of prisoners who are in israeli, in israeli custody, 50 israeli hostage prisoners, i understand correctly, yes, you understand correctly, this is this formula 1:3 was developed for this agreement, that is, if there are any further steps of this type, then somewhere approximately the same formula will be

, as far as we understand, but as always, you know, these are only plans for how it will be really be implemented, it will be necessary look, that is, that second stage, which they began to write about, so to speak, in the media, that again 50 to 150, these are, in principle, such plans, and please tell me, a ceasefire, this pause, it was stated that , that israel is ready to keep such a pause for no more than 10 days, how true is this, can this pause, these terms, be changed, depending on what is happening, firstly, we are talking about four days, this is the first stage, we need to see how it will be executed if it is executed if there will be... an agreement on the further release of our hostages, we will talk about further days, days of ceasefire, if this is not implemented, then what to talk about, then there is nothing to talk about, mr. ambassador, that’s what you think, can we consider that

this agreement, this upcoming pause, if everything works out, ah , maybe some kind of harbinger of some more, more significant, more serious negotiations and reaching a diplomatic level of communication, what do you think? question, as always, when everyone is talking about negotiations, you know, we must first decide with whom to talk, what to talk about, with whom to talk, if it’s hamas, then we have nothing with them, nothing to talk about, they keep declaring, repeating, and for some reason no one doesn’t listen, everyone asks questions to us, no one asks them a question, for example, their press, secretary, i don’t even know... what to call him, says that we should repeat this on october 7th, that is, kill , continue to kill israelis, continue to attack israel until it is completely destroyed, in my opinion we need to decide whether it is possible at all to communicate with such people, and we believe that there is no, so there is nothing to say here, until

this entire terrorist structure of hamas disappears, there is nothing to talk about, because those who are engaged... want to engage in our destruction, there is no one with them talk, so that further negotiations can only take place when the hamas terrorist structures disappear. i’ll also clarify about the hostages, we know that the israeli ministry of justice has published a list of palestinian prisoners who are subject to release, this is there, please tell me if there are names namely, what is known about the hostages, respectively israeli, that is, are there any lists. are they provided on the other side? and apparently some lists were provided, our chief of our masada , another, important representative of israel were in qatar, they some lists... received, unfortunately, i don’t have any information, more than that, so

, let's see and see, we already have some lists, but for now i can’t say for sure, uh-huh, uh-huh, i also wanted to ask you to comment on what the lebanese hezbollah stated that it also does not will strike as long as the agreement is in force, so to speak, everything will happen about a ceasefire, well , at least this is a statement on their part, this is how you evaluate such a step, well, probably, what are these words like? you know, we always say, peace, we respond with peace to peace, that is, if we didn’t start shooting at hezbollah, but they started shooting at us, if they cease fire, at this stage we will also, we will not, fire at their, say , firing points, and if they... it will be continue, because it always happens, it’s easy to say, and then some kind of shelling continues and so on, then of course we

will not sit inactively, the most important thing is that there is a huge amount of military force and weapons on our border, they themselves they are proud that they have more than 100,000 missiles aimed at israel, this also must be taken into account when we actually do something, so let's see if they don't follow us. we have no, no desire to expand this conflict when everyone is saying: this conflict can expand to further countries in the middle east, we are not going to do this, we are not going to expand the conflict, our neighbors. in continuation of this conversation, it is reported that the hamas delegation is in lebanon at a meeting with the leadership of hezbollah, and the head of the iranian foreign ministry went there. how closely does the israeli side follow these events, what should we expect from such meetings in your opinion? well

, first of all, very closely, because nothing good can be expected from this meeting, these are the ones who started this whole the conflict, who fuel it, who develop it, that is, iran through its proxies, what we say, those who are for them and with their hands carry out their policy, that is, an attack on israel, and so on and really nothing good can be expected from this meeting, except for the worsening of the situation, because it was they who escalated it, they should - this is the issue and , in general, calm down, i don’t think that they are interested in this, i think that it is on the contrary, the parliament of the south african republic today i voted for - severing diplomatic relations with israel, i would like to hear your comment, of course, but

, i’ll tell you, these steps, not only there, there are different countries that did this, there were countries in latin america, this is a mistake, because nothing nothing useful will come of this for them, but to be a more holy catholic than the pope, as we say, is also the arab countries that maintain diplomatic relations with us, various arab countries, so if they decided this, it is, of course, theirs sovereign decision, but i believe what is this. returning directly to the conflict and directly to the attacks on the gas sector, the american media are reporting that the israeli army ignored the requests of the united states of america not to attack the humanitarian facilities in gaza, is it true, washington asked for this, really? i have this... i don’t have such information, i must admit whether he asked or not, well, you need to ask the american media, maybe, or maybe they

know something better, i just don’t know, about humanitarian objects, i highly recommend watch the new videos that are coming out now, what is being done under the shifa hospital in gaza, what is being done under the mosques, what tunnels are there, what they are holding there, what the factories that prepare weapons look like there, so all this... the name is humanitarian objects, it’s very beautiful, but we really need to see what’s going on there, in shifa, under this hospital we find tunnels kilometers long, equipped with everything, with weapons and so on, near the mosque, installations for firing rockets at israel, there are mortars , in general, all that is, these videos are now available to everyone very easily, we are happy

to present them if anyone is interested. puts its own military objects with it or under them, what’s even worse is that it ceases to be a humanitarian object, but begins to be a legitimate goal, even according to the laws of war conduct, there is such a thing even besides humanitarian ones, so watch these videos, then we’ll decide about humanitarian facilities, it is reported: with reference to biden, that the white house contributed to the improvement of conditions just this deal, well, we are talking about an exchange, yes, the hostages are prisoners, and the improvement of conditions for the israeli side, how do you assess the role of the white house in this settlement, will it carry out any other mediation missions, so to speak?

, regarding the role of egypt, for example, too, but mostly the americans talked to the tatars with us, so indeed, they were quite instrumental there in reaching this agreement, egypt, of course, is important, it is also important, an important player, because everything passes through them, we must not forget that the checkpoint at which everything is supposed to happen is located on the border between the gaza strip and egypt, so indeed, they also have a lot of influence on uh, hamas. so really, these and qatar, of course, so these three players are very, very important in achieving all these agreements, well, the statement of the israeli prime minister that the operation in the gas sector will be completed, so to speak, despite this truce, the current one, which if it exists, there is no alternative solution to this, i understand correctly, then there is here the position of israel is unchanged, uh, firstly, they are unchanged, secondly

, not an example, but a ceasefire - these are two different things, and i must also say this: we set before after october 7, after this massacre, which hamas set up on our territory, we set two tasks, the first is to destroy the terrorist infrastructures of hamas and the second is to return all our hostages, which is what we are doing, because stop now and the terrorist infrastructures will remain in place, we have done nothing, tomorrow it may... will happen again then or the day after tomorrow, it doesn’t matter, in a month, in a year, it doesn’t matter, this is exactly what we must prevent, so the war against hamas will continue, thank you, mr. ambassador, for your detailed answers, the ambassador extraordinary plenipotentiary of israel to russia, alexander, was in contact with us benswi discussed the situation in the middle east, this was the fifth

studio, see you. tragic news, an irreparable loss for our tv channel, our correspondent, boris maksudov, who was working in the special operation zone , came under fire from the ukrainian armed forces, from died from the wounds he received without regaining consciousness. on behalf of tv channel russia-24, we offer our deepest condolences to boris’s family and friends. during a special operation in the southern donetsk

direction, russian military personnel thwarted an attempt to attack the armed forces of ukraine, the enemy suffered losses in equipment and manpower, the ministry of defense told us the details. in the southern donetsk direction, units of the vostok troops group, with the support of army aviation and artillery fire, thwarted an attempted enemy attack in the shelter area. the assault group of the 127th territorial brigade was destroyed defense of the armed forces of ukraine. operational-tactical and army aviation, missile forces and artillery inflicted fire on local manpower and equipment of the seventy-second mechanized brigade of the ukrainian armed forces in the novomikhailovka region of the donetsk people's republic. the enemy's losses amounted to two armored combat vehicles, two vehicles and up to 60 militants