tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 November 24, 2023 4:30pm-5:00pm MSK
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[000:00:00;00] as a matter of fact, in recent years the guys have made good progress in introducing artificial intelligence into it, vladimir vladimirovich germanovskivich , hello, my name is vladislav kozhimyakin, as germanov said, i am responsible for the digital educational platform zberklass, natalia’s examples resonate with me very much, because that from communication with students and teachers we know that there is a very high demand for an individual approach, for helping teachers with routine, and if...' look through the eyes of a student, then when in a class, for example, there is one teacher and 30 children, it is very difficult to pay enough attention to everyone, and this is where artificial intelligence technology comes to the rescue , which analyzes data on the skills, interests, uh, predispositions of children, and creates an educational experience that increases the efficiency and interest of students, so according to many studies , artificial intelligence with personalization allows you to increase the effectiveness of learning by an average of 30%, at the same time increasing
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the involvement of students and reducing their stress and anxiety, and if you look through the eyes of teachers, then we know that now in modern times teachers are very overloaded with a large number of activities, routine, and artificial intelligence helps here too, because it can help with the automation of checking homework, preparing for tests, generating assignments, analyzing various reports, and we know , that in our experience, according to our colleagues from the industry, when teachers start working... with artificial intelligence for the first time, first of all there is such an emotion of wariness, skepticism, but as soon as they get used to it, they don’t want to return to the usual way of learning, and natalya’s example is very indicative , so my dream is to make sure that the students enjoy learning, it is such an exciting journey, so that learning motivates them to develop, and does not create the feeling of such a heavy obligation so that
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every child in our country has the opportunity to receive an individual approach , regardless of conditions, and teachers have the opportunity to devote more time to children and their education. thank you, vladimirovich, us too here, together with the ministry of education, we discussed this topic and say that our dream is to get children out of social networks , tiktok, and so on and so forth, and make the learning process so exciting that they spend time on useful skills, and not on pastimes, in fact, unfortunately, where they are very much losing their cognitive abilities, and vladimirovich, you said in relation to regional activities, you know, we have had very big changes here over the last year, because that to be honest, i don’t know what exactly , maybe all the activities taken together, over
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the last year we just...... all the companies, members of the alliance have been in great demand from the governors, in fact this is very cool, because that in a very large number of regions, now there is study, preparation, training, first of all , of management personnel , government members, municipal leaders, then enterprises are also involved in this process and... everyone today unanimously says that artificial intelligence v management is another breakthrough, a breakthrough towards increasing the efficiency of management decision-making and, accordingly, in general, increasing the efficiency of government, and i would like to invite our next speaker, this is alena kocharova, she is
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the head of the department, and who will talk about the use of large language models in the field of public administration, please, dear vladimir vladimirovich, german oskarovich, and dear participants of our conference. thank you for the opportunity to speak on this topic today. i've been interested in it since childhood foreign languages and translation, and as a hobby i translate texts from different languages. and such is the breakthrough movement of artificial intelligence of generative models lately that even online translators translate better than me. and now
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we are also translating our conference into other languages with the help of. artificial intelligence, and it becomes clear that those who use artificial intelligence in their work will have advantages over those who do not, our wonderful partners from the moscow region understand this perfectly well when we together, as part of a design session , we worked on the areas in which it is best to start implementing artificial intelligence in the moscow region, we asked ourselves the question: in the field of public administration, what do our citizens want? our citizens want quick, accurate and personalized answers to their problems. yes, it’s clear that part. very personal and requires careful human communication , a very careful approach, but at the same time 70% of all questions are of an informational nature, these are questions such as where is my social card,
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am i entitled to a subsidy, and these simple questions can and should be given to artificial intelligence, delegated, thanks to our partners from the moscow region , we quite quickly managed to train a large language model of sberbank gigachat to answer questions from citizens on social topics, we had a set of 150,000 pairs of questions and answers and 20 specialized specialists from the moscow region spent more than 1,250 hours on the markup platform to help track the generations and make them the most accurate and reliable, as we achieved this, we used additional reinforcement learning, this is when for artificial intelligence models, in each specific case, we show which answer is correct, but when we started checking the generations of our first model, we realized that we lacked
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texture, and for this we also created an information search module that allows us refer to legal acts and cite relevant sources, it’s as if you came to the library and they not only gave you the right book, but also opened it on the right page, underlined the text that interests you, and you you wouldn’t have to do this yourself, large language models and artificial intelligence are used in public administration in other countries, for example, in brazil to fight corruption, where artificial intelligence tracks the connections of officials with contracted companies, in the uk, artificial intelligence identified and processed the delay more 30,000 pensions, in the case of manual labor, this would require tens of thousands of hours of people's work. in south korea, for example, chatbots automatically notify
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citizens about the subsidies they are entitled to. but in russia is already actively implementing it at the regional level. there are regions, leaders. and these are like that. regions like the moscow region, of course, moscow , tatarstan, sakhalin, on sakhalin the entire island is being transformed, they strive to become a beacon for the implementation of russian solutions in the field of artificial intelligence, in other regions they are introducing solutions that deal with ecology, healthcare, something that, oh what my colleagues said, and we are trying to help with this, for the last year my colleagues and i, with partners, including from the alliance in the field of artificial intelligence, conducted 48 design thinking sessions, during which we helped regions find those areas in which
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priority solutions can begin to be implemented now, and when compared with the previous year’s conference aaj 2022, we mainly conducted a dialogue with a few, now more than... solutions are being implemented in 67 regions of russia and these are inspiring numbers, this is an inspiring result in just a year. and of course, thanks to our partners from the alliance in the field of artificial intelligence, such as gka plane, uralchem, rusagra, sibur, our colleagues are implementation leaders in their industries and help within the industry. identify the most effective solutions to help in this implementation, they help not only within their own, it will be easier to implement ready-made solutions at the level, including the regions of departments.
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you know, this is precisely the systematic introduction and development of artificial intelligence in all three elements, these are regions, federal bodies and business, this is exactly what to develop russia, to make russia the best public administration in the world, i sincerely i believe in this , i want to do this and... i believe that we are already succeeding, russia, as a country without bureaucracy, russia built on artificial intelligence and big data, specifically with the analysis of big data, i believe that this is the vision russia to which we can all strive, thank you, but a new bureaucracy has not arisen, a bureaucracy of artificial intelligence, a very good question, we will ask in this model and see what, what
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analysis is there on this? invoice, thank you, thank you, uh, dear colleagues, of course, uh, when we are talking about artificial intelligence , we, of course, must remember that today all our models, the fundamental models that are discussed here, are gigantic not only in terms of data volume, but in complexity. in our architecture, when we created the first, first model, the first version, we wanted to provide it to the market, but we saw that we needed to create a huge censor model, because sometimes the answers that the model gave were not, let’s say, not entirely politically correct, then, when we delved deeper into the problem security, it turned out that, of course, there are a huge number of such areas, artificial intelligence should in no case be an assistant, these are all kinds
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of criminals, questions about how to make certain drugs or explosives, and so on and so forth, and we have a process the creation of this kind of censor took almost 6 months, all this complicates the computational process, puts a huge burden on computing power, which is already in short supply, and here, of course, one cannot do without science. and i would like to ask representative of science alexander gasnikov, rector of innopolis, who this year just won in one of the nominations of our conference as the author of the best article in the field of artificial intelligence, will speak, he is a mathematician, head of the department of mti, but the rector of monopolis has just been appointed, with which he probably , can we congratulate alexander, he
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is one of the specialists in the field of optimization models and optimization models of mathematics, please, alexander. hello, vladimir vladimirov, hello, german oskarovich, hello, dear colleagues, i’m really involved in optimization, i studied for many years at the moscow institute of physics and technology , i also work at the institute of system programming, russian academy of sciences, and of course, today we already heard the word revolution, and when it happened, well, probably, you can officially, it occurred on november 30, 2022, when the gpt chat was launched. and what is it, how to formalize the concept of revolution, why is it
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a revolution, this is what has changed compared to what was, well, by the way, in russia competitors have appeared, who can also be said to have made a revolution in our country, so what is this revolution ? with whom we communicate, is it the check that answers us or the machine, well, i myself was convinced of this, how, i do science, we write articles, well, we have a deadline in the spring for the conference, the leading conference in the world, and for artificial intelligence, we decided to misbehave a little, we asked artificial intelligence, here is a large generative model, a large language model , help us write this article, they asked us to write an introduction, they asked us to prove some of the theorems, well, we were a little too lazy to do it ourselves, we asked, naturally.
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but after several iterations she understood what we wanted from her and in the end she just fully helped me write some part of the article, let's think for a minute what happened, we are studying artificial intelligence, we asked artificial intelligence to help us study artificial intelligence intelligence, in general, i think it’s interesting, the article was sent to the conference, if anything, but in fact a lot was said here, in my opinion , very good and correct words, this is very close to me, but i always somehow want to highlight it in reality some possible difficulties, problems that we may have, which are where we need to invest or somehow specifically consider them, and... well, we see four such areas: working with data, computing resources, algorithms, people, and let's start with working with data, when we talk about data, then, well naturally, it’s difficult to compete if we take - the internet, english, chinese, well, less just here, texts in russian, for example, to teach the same
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gpt chat, in my opinion, about 200 million a4 pages were used, naturally, in the right way , pre-selected preparations. that is, it is difficult to compete here, moreover, a certain trust is also required here, which was also discussed, and here, by the way, we have a foundation, we have one of the centers around trusted artificial intelligence, which as for computing resources, it’s also difficult to compete objectively here, i’ll highlight these two layers in such a way that , really, in the west it’s more commonplace to just have a video card, they print there themselves, and well, in general it turns out, it’s kind of difficult with this, the most in fact, we have in the country a certain technology, so to speak, alternative computing technologies, including those based on optical subprocessors , well, essentially, these are analog devices, i won’t talk about it now, but what’s
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great, i just found out myself recently, what this, in a sense, is a product that is available in the regions, there are simply regions in the country that can produce it, but now it’s good, this is how they were, dekte, now it’s good, here i can give a lot of examples, i really like it’s hard to resist choosing just one , but let me give an example from my own practice, here’s what a large language model is, well, in fact, it’s a function, it receives as input, i don’t know, some text, let’s say, it represents it in the form vector, then with this vector they begin some kind of transformations, let’s say, multiplication by some kind of matrix of weights, here - training a neural network is the selection of a matrix of weights , such a superposition, which means it is clear that if we have, for example, 80 or 100 billion weight parameters, then the number of such multiplications, calculations, training them, that is, adjusting so that this model with a given input corresponds to a given output, here we are, i don’t know, some billions of sample elements are adjusting, it is clear that this is a huge computational
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problem, optimization problem, to solve it we need algorithms, so - depending on how good an algorithm we choose, we can significantly save time, moreover, in the modern world... almost no one solves it, but i don’t know how to solve such problems on one machine , of course, their data is distributed, a problem arises with communication, communication costs, reliability, trust, that no one, so to speak, attacks, and this is a huge number of problems, the development of fast reliable algorithms, here i must say that we in the country have a huge backlog here, including we ourselves have seen how it all works , it speeds up the calculation, well, many times, many times purely due to... rhythms, i must say that what is now already in country, these are, for example, centers, research centers on artificial intelligence, and if all this together there is such synergy with the regions, it seems to me that this will be a very important story, especially in the development of some new bachelor's programs, training schoolchildren,
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for so that we achieve the required indicators, excuse me, i’ll speed up a little now, because i’m a little late, but this is very important for me to say, this is probably the most important thing, what i wanted to say is personnel, because, actually, what are algorithms, where do they come from? they are taken, they are made by people, living people, these people need to be trained, as they are trained, starting from school, and what is needed to be an artificial intelligence specialist in the future, probably mathematics, computer science, and uh, if we look at that, how many specialists do we now have in, well, schoolchildren who are aimed at these disciplines and demonstrate some success, then in the fifth grade it is... well, approximately according to the results of the school stage of the all-russian olympiad, if we look at the eleventh grade, it is 10-1500, here is the ticker, the ministry of education, science , which means he believes that there should be 15,500 specialists in artificial intelligence every year, but if at the end of the day we now have 10-15,000 from the eleventh grade, they are somehow still
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partially eliminated at the institute, then it is obvious that this funnel is objective a funnel, because the progress that... we are now facing, this is what everyone is facing, that is, it’s not that we have such a problem, it’s a well-known problem, but it needs to be solved, that’s the task of this funnel as- then expand, and how this can be done, well, actually, there are several points here that there is absolutely no time to talk about, but i kind of felt in my soul that this is really extremely important, to instill a taste for science, love, i would even said to science, to knowledge, and already starting from the school essay, popularization, we have outstanding popularizers in the country... the scale of their activities, in my opinion, can be scaled, that is, winners of international awards, this is really possible, in my opinion, that is, how can i say, they are not fully used, not all juices we survived, but we can still hold on. the allocation of grants to teachers, which is important in the regions, this is a very important story, because the main subsidence is in this funnel, these are small cities and
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, in general, in essence, these are the regions, everything is fine with the centers, it seems to me that we have, at we are a country of talents, we have enormous opportunities, and while communicating in advance for this presentation with colleagues, well, in general, i realized that the mood is very good and it’s just something that needs to be done, but the previous speakers talked about a dream, you know, i’ll probably say it too, i kind of have a dream as a scientist, with the help of my natural intelligence, to understand artificial intelligence, how what underlies artificial intelligence, and as a newly minted rector, in fact, today, in my opinion , the order came out, which means another dream, to expand this funnel, but it’s something like that, well, it’s not soulless , it’s soulful - it’s just to understand that in the regions there are really a lot of talented children, small children, the first classes there are even from which you can
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really make, well, just well, the most talented people who will bring benefit to the country, now everything is moving towards this, a lot of things are being done, but more is possible, so it’s like my dream for this to be realized to the extent that the country needs it, i want it so so it was, we had a very good conversation, he will come to us in kazan, vonopo. from december, he, he, all this was extremely close to him, we planned to talk there for half an hour, we talked much more , we talked to selena vladimirovna shmileva, we talked to dmitry nikolaevich, well, in general, the work is going on, the work is going on, i and what are you with him asked? you know, i’m kind of bad at asking, to be honest, i’m a novice rector, teach me more, i’m a novice rector, you know , well, that’s what i can say, well, i understand that there is a simple idea, so i can say for myself, once upon a time there was a program megagrants, but 10 years ago, why it was, it exists, well, i mean , the first wave, the first, yes, it really exists the first wave, when leading scientists
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come, here is simple information, i did not prepare this at all, a megagrand, which i was at festeh, the professor calmly led it, he brought several outstanding world-class scientists, three, three or even four centers that now exist for artificial intelligence, about half of the articles that these centers produce are done by people trained within this laboratory . centers, well, this is a fact, you see, in this sense, i see it this way: if you really bring a bright person to the regions , stimulate him in some way, that is , set the rules of the game in such a way that there would be nowhere to go, it was necessary to regions to develop something, science, artificial intelligence, i am deeply convinced that this will really have a very serious effect, because a huge number of talented children there, well, don’t always have the opportunity to simply get
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the necessary knowledge, but the talented guys who collected, including in these centers, if they are somehow stimulated, disseminate knowledge , i did this myself, i understand, i really like it, i feel that it is in demand, in my opinion it will have an effect, so i would like to ask, so that the regions have such an opportunity, i am from moscow, everything is fine with me, the question is why do i need to go to the regions , well, how can i say, my soul lies like this, and i feel that if, and there are many such people, by the way, let’s say, that’s if so unite, it will be very cool, for the country, i feel it, from what you said, i do several conclusions, first, it was not in vain that we created a system with these grants, yes, it works, it gives results, it’s already good, that’s what is needed in order for the regions to react accordingly, thank you.
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big, sit down, let's, let's ask the governors, whom i see in the front here, some governors are sitting in a row, andreyvich, how is this developing for you, please give me a microphone, and what is needed, and what you could do additionally, to bring to the region such bright - interesting, necessary people, well, fortunately, we have festeh in dolgoprudny and there are specialized schools, there are quantoriums, there are special units where very gifted guys teach children programming as a consequence of robotics and artificial intelligence , including, you know, we have science cities and korolev and reutt all this... engineering thought simply lives there, our task is to pay attention to it, to create conditions for teachers so that they come there, and
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children so that they have access, do we have many or few of them? it seems to me that there are a lot of quantifiers and there are no such scientific centers, and there really is a demand for them, and as for the use of artificial intelligence , we have specialists in our team, just like sberbank has them in moscow, these are young guys, our unit has about 300-350 programmers sculpt everything that the speakers talked about today, this or that solution, a team goes out for regions, on a platform on which they see that colleagues can also, why 67 regions, because accordingly it offers products and implements it, i reported on
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last conference, we had nine products. intelligence, now there are 27 of them working, what is the key task, is that many of them work according to scripts, well, that is, they are not very smart, as the interlocutor would like, so you alexander said that you want to talk with artificial intelligence, and do not distinguish that this is a machine voice, and here is a generative one, if we have a megachat solution, if we really implement what alyuna was talking about, but of course there will be a victory, because it is of a different quality, the efficiency of the state municipal management in particular, i can give an example, but i’m afraid that i’m already abusing it, and now we’ve launched assistant zhenya in the housing and communal services, and he’s still being improved in february, we really hope he’ll already
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accept applications from residents, and may call that or another service and report the accident, receive a photo report in order to pay for the elimination of this accident, of course, i ’m speaking on the air, probably boldly, but this is the goal, this is the task, and with sber we are implementing such decisions, last year there was a decision on garbage, and thanks, again, to legislative regulation, thanks to the federal assembly, today we see everything that travels in a truck in the moscow region on a video camera , accordingly, if... the car does not have a ticket attached, then there is a high probability, almost absolute, that it will be thrown out in the forest, because artificial the intellect is analyzed to see if the car has a ticket and does so, accordingly, all this work is being carried out, it seems to me that this is very important work, i want to thank you, because after such conferences there are specific instructions, according to the same regulations,
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laws and regulations that allow the implementation of art. intelligence and if i can afford completion, maksut and i talked , this year they say that they will pass a law, there is every reason to believe that the state duma, its meaning is to mark up data, the fact is that if you mark up data, that is prepare what is good and what is bad, and accordingly we will be on a single platform, vladimirovich, that the speed of implementation of artificial intelligence, as i understand it, i too... am not a deep professional, will be completely different, and if such a decision, such an order were given, then all regions and all institutes could create these setboxes, as they say, these sets on an open basis, it seems to me that this would also attract specialists, yeah, thank you, well, as for the moscow region
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