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tv   RIK Rossiya 24  RUSSIA24  November 25, 2023 11:30am-12:01pm MSK

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[000:00:00;00] i was at one of the strong points, on the approaches, battles broke out, at all my strong points, my company, the battle was difficult, uh, the enemy could not break through to the front, they held their positions, and the enemy decided to wedge into our rear, bypassing the flanks , at a strong point, he concentrated, from the nearest... strong points, the wounded and survivors, ordered to take up a perimeter defense, when he concentrated everyone who could, a shooting battle did not break out, by that time zhullanov’s unit was practically surrounded and the commander the company decided to break through and take out the wounded. maybe another hour after this
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battle, i made the decision to withdraw people. already on our own, on foot, and actually, while we were moving, i don’t remember how many kilometers, how long we walked , because there were skirmishes, skirmishes with infantry, and the drones were moving, while they were moving, they were shooting down, and the artillery was working on us, and the tank fired, along the road, directly paved, my armored group was already working on positions against the first batch, as mentioned above in total, yuri zhulanov led 30 people out of encirclement, during a battle with two battalions
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his company... the enemy lost about 100 people, in 8 hours of heavy fighting, zhulanov was wounded twice, the team continued to command his unit, having already been wounded, it turns out, i was wounded in a shooting battle when i went to check the trail, in the forest, i moved there alone, on the way, already moving along the trail, i heard conversations were being used and i mostly had grenades with me, it was there that i received my first field wound in leg, during evacuation by vehicle, he received a shrapnel wound, also in the left leg. immediately after the boyar, zhulanov was evacuated to
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the hospital, the hero of russia was operated on, and then yuri learned that he had been promoted to rank and was now a senior lieutenant. congratulations, i serve russia, when we found out, it was a shock in general, of course, we did not expect that this was the hero of russia, the main thing is that we found out that he was alive, because he was before it. disappeared again, got lost, and that is, we didn’t know that there was such a heavy, terrible battle there, and that there such events were happening to him, there was a sharp call from him, from journalists , and they said that here he was, he had a title, and a hero of russia, of course, it was a shock, well , terrible pride, of course, pride, well, they cried, they immediately cried , of course, right away, when they first
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told me on the phone, well, of course they cried. they even cried because it was just this awareness of that moment, the fact that he had experienced it all , and the fact that he came alive. yura zhulanov grew up in a large family, he has two brothers and a sister, he has been involved in sports since childhood, skiing racing, biathlon, weightlifting, he thought about connecting his life with the army when he was still in school, after his military service he remained in the army, to serve under a contract, he says, svo understood that he would take part in hostilities, no thoughts of suddenly getting sick and going to bed the hospital was nowhere near. well, we all relate to the fact that we need to serve, to defend our homeland, we don’t have such a thing that don’t just go, no, go, go, do your duty, must do it, because he’s a man, if not them, then who, in svo zone in march 2022, yuri zhulanov went
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as a sergeant, deputy platoon commander. at that time, he had just turned 23 years old and had no combat experience behind him. i remember my first fight very well, i was in mine. because the combat vehicle, in fact, he himself fired - from an automatic cannon, very difficult, the very first battle , at that very moment it was very difficult, and there was a lot of fuss, since the unit as such did not really have any combat experience, that’s it at that moment when the whole, so to speak, picture here is unpleasant i saw, felt and, first of all, realized that one should not give in to panic under any circumstances and treat it more calmly, so to speak. yuri zhulanov received his first injury at the end of april last year, recovered quickly enough and returned to the troops. later
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he received his first officer rank, became a junior lieutenant and acting company commander. yuri fought in a variety of directions. izyum, kherson, zaporozhye and ugledar. already being the commander of the company, the shrikes went out on combat missions. together with its soldiers, moved before everything that uh, i don’t even know what to call it, fighting spirit, one might say, and uh, fear for my guys, that, be that as it may, it doesn’t matter with my guys, no matter where they are, no matter what age they are , i’m their commander, i ’m responsible for them, and uh. i once, when i was with them on a task, i felt that , well, if something happened, i would help somewhere and give advice, 2 months ago,
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a very important event happened in the life of yura zhulanov - a wedding, he and his wife marina have known each other since school, were friends at that time, communicated quite after all, for a long time and later i left and was drafted into the army and well, it was as if throughout all the years we communicated, first love, after so much time, we finally decided that after all, well, fate brings us together, well it’s not just that, now yuri continues to recover from his injury, all these months senior lieutenant dzhulanov has not lost and is not losing touch with his people. those who are on the front line, in general, they carry out tasks, there have now been reinforcements, well, in general, everything is fine with them, they carry out tasks,
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in general, they are bored, waiting, come quickly, commander. another hero of our program, junior lieutenant georgy borisov from the small town of zaensk, in tatarstan. george was called up as part of a partial mobilization last fall. borisov, a veteran of military operations in south ossetia in the svo zone, he fought in the svatov area and was awarded the order of courage for his participation in these battles. today georgy borisov is settling into his new duty station. for several months now , the holder of the order of courage has been working in the military registration and enlistment office of his hometown. this is my workplace i work with conscripts and
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military-patriotic education of children. i supervise studies, control how many people study, monitor their exams, speaking at schools for georgiy, now this is in fact everyday work, the responsibilities of now officer borisov also include working with schoolchildren, to whom georgiy talks about military schools, and indeed about military service in general. my first business trip was in 2008 in the north caucasus during the georgian-ossetian conflict. second i got a business trip due to mobilization. the first time borisov’s troops were called up was in 2006 by the airborne forces as a signalman. after six months. he remained to serve under a contract in august 2008. the unit where georgiy served was transferred to south ossetia. nevalny shouts alarm to the company. so they immediately came down to us all according to the routine in case of
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an alarm, we all received deception, we received everything from the warehouse. and we set off in a loaded car and headed to the airport . in the city of ivanovo, and after that we moved out skhinvalval, our 217th regiment, our ninety-eighth division, nashalon here between all of them it is necessary... to provide communication, we pulled the field, the guys were sitting on the switchboard, our battalion. when the contract ended, borisov returned to his native zaensk, worked with a mechanic at a factory, a forklift driver, a truck driver, got married, had two boys in the family, in general, before the start of partial mobilization, georgy did not connect his life with the army, well, i immediately warned my wife, first, our wife, my sister ’s husband left... he left due to mobilization, he
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worked at a wheel factory at the wheel factory, he left first due to mobilization, i immediately left for my wife i said, if suddenly i get a summons, i say, i won’t refuse , i say, i’ll go, then literally on the twenty-fourth we were taken away from my sister’s husband, and on the twenty-sixth i brought the summons home, my wife was also in tears, worried, crying, that was all. the children still didn’t understand where i was going, yes, i was already ready, he had told me before that if a summons came, i would go, well, i tried to dissuade him, he said, what about me, what about the children, but he still said, i’ll go anyway if mobilization comes, well if the summons comes, i won’t hide anywhere , for the second time borisov was called up to serve as a motorized rifle, those mobilized first underwent training at the training ground in kazan. at the beginning of november, the unit in which
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georgy found himself began to carry out matchmaking tasks. the company's positions were on the front line. well, we arrived, we were positioned at the landing, we dug in, we waited for an attack to come through us, we sat on the defensive, and we constantly walked around in alarm and were constantly on duty, even if someone, guys, someone was digging trenches and two or three there were people there throughout our landing, they were on duty, and day and night they were on duty around the clock, who was shouting on duty, who the guys were standing, the air, the team was there, everyone was hiding, some in the trenches, some behind the trees, who managed, much faster, where you can hide faster, that’s where they run, you need to understand that the situation at the front , at the moment when borisov, along with others like him who had been mobilized, found himself on the front line, was very difficult, and the units
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that fought in the svatov direction last fall faced an extremely difficult task - to hold this strategically important line, there were shellings, one might say, all of them were strong, they even hit a tank with polks, there was a case when a shell fell next to my trench, my nose began to bleed, my ears were clogged, well, a slight concussion can already be said, i... with half a half of the guys i lived alone in trench, not trench, but lisa narauzh, so to speak, and we went to spend the night with each other, who had a bigger trench, who had a stove installed, because not at all, at first all the trenches had stoves, a shot, it is clear that a fighter fighting on the front line, to put it mildly, is not always has the opportunity to call home, and there were these weeks of silence until the first call for elmira, george’s wife.
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the most difficult, she tried to find out some information about her husband from other mobilized wives, we somehow stuck together, and i was in touch with them, asked if their spouses called there, they said, well, from time to time they got in touch, i asked if they had seen my husband, maybe he was nearby somewhere , well, there was no news, no one saw him, no one heard him, when he called me, i would have been shocked, i she even cried with me, even my colleagues cried, in january of this year, during one of the exits, georgy borisov was seriously wounded, stepped on a mine, the cotton fell, he didn’t even feel me, to be honest, he then looked at me lucky, he says, how about you, he says, my foot was torn off, burned, there wasn’t much blood loss , the wound burned, the guys evacuated me, our guys ran up, on
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a stretcher, one comrade gave me a stab, one tourniquet was immediately applied, our guys from the platoon , then there were difficult months rehabilitation, georgy was fitted with a prosthesis , now it’s more or less yes, it’s easier to walk, not like the first time, it’s hard at first, there’s a painful sensation, the first time, it’s too early, i’m rubbing calluses. this is all slowly getting used to, already in the hospital for participation in the battles podsvatov georgy borisov was awarded the order of courage and promoted to the rank of junior lieutenant, and also, they offered me a job at the military registration and enlistment office , at first i refused, i refused, they approached me two or three times, but then at one point, we also sat with the guys, we talked to the neighboring wards, who had already completed training, having talked to them, graduate, he says, quit, he says, it’s never
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too late, he says, then they called the head of the training unit, and agreed, as we already said, to the military registration and enlistment office... he’s doing work with young people, participates in various events, helps, together with the district administration, as much as he can to the families of his colleagues, and they do not lose touch with the relatives of their fallen comrades, we came to the cemetery to honor the memory of the guys we served, grew up together, almost a classmate, misha muzychenko, so this is kirillov, sergei. despite being seriously wounded, junior lieutenant georgy borisov wanted to return to the front, there was a desire to return, i think we could cope, perform the same tasks
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that we did there, but physically it would be a little difficult, but we managed. we could handle it, we could handle it, what we could do, we did what was required of us, with the hero of russia, major sergei bocheryakov, we are recording this interview in kostroma, in his native military academy of chemical and biological defense named after marshal timoshenko. at the entrance to the barracks, where sergei lived for several years, his photo now hangs. three heroes of russia. yes, who showed themselves during their time. two heavy, heavy fire systems. she entered here in
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2006, studied until 2011. as it was determined, she was born in the yastrama region, in the village of ponaza. i started my military service from here. bocheryakov knew from childhood that he would be an officer and his choice, of course, was influenced by his father, who was the head of the colony in the small village of ponozyrevo. you may also remember there were paloroid cameras, like my father’s i took a photograph and wrote it there in pen, dad is a policeman, this is what i want to become, although i still didn’t understand who he was, well, that is, yes, probably since childhood it was already... somewhere far away that i would in uniform. in the spring of twenty, bocherikov went to the front to become the commander of a flamethrower platoon. then his units were formed and trained urgently, and the commander learned a lot already in his zone. the flamethrower unit, what is it, is
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it assigned, that is, to the army, some infantry units, marines, there, paratroopers, and so on, that is. conventionally, the infantry advances, somewhere they have a jam, that is, a wall where they cannot formally break through it, so they call flamethrowers there, who provide assistance to ignite the enemy’s force, manpower, well, roughly speaking, they stand up, but cannot break through , let’s say there’s some machine gunner who’s sitting in the trench, whom they shoot with grenades and can’t destroy, so they call us, we move out. with flamethrowers ignited by the enemy. the working weapons of such units are bumblebee flamethrowers. them to chechnya in afghanistan called shaitan-pipe, rocket infantry flamethrower rpo shmel. this is what we work with. how effective is a bumblebee precisely in conditions when the enemy is buried and cannot
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be forged. well, a thermal bar, so you understand, a pressure difference, that is, conditionally, if the enemy is in some kind of trench, and you can hit it. shoot with a grenade there is agsa, there is a small weapon there, you won’t penetrate it, it’s hidden and it’s going to be a little hard to knock it out, but the flamethrower, this fire mixture, it climbs into all these conventionally cracks and lights it up, it’s actually a flamethrower the platoon, and later roto, who would command the cheriks, carried out assault work, the most difficult and dangerous at the front, the unit constantly... had to fight, including shooting battles. yes, we get it, the target range is 600 m, he has it, and so directly, when we work there up to 400 m, we go out opposite. the closest combat distance was conventionally 10-15 m with the enemy
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, so of course, we helped the storm units a lot, so we, as specialists, flamethrowers, are not grenade launchers, so yes, they were waiting for us, okay provided assistance and advanced further, our troops advanced, sergei’s unit had to enter battle almost immediately in the very first days at the front, the detachment fought on... yes, the very first battles took place, they took a height, which means that from this height it was already meters away 500, this is exactly the line that we needed to knock the enemy out of there , for two days we fought shooting battles, we , like flamethrowers from a height, fired at these, at the enemy’s strong point, we were, it turns out, in the very hiding in ourselves
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houses, they used them to burn out the enemy. before svo, bocheryakov, like most of the soldiers from his unit, had no combat experience, and the most important thing that the officer learned in the very first days on the front line was not to panic, yes, it was very scary, you were in a lot of sweat , your mouth was such dryness, dizziness, it was like the first time, well, when to be honest... i saw the first, first blood, so to speak, that’s right there, at first it was kind of hard, scary, but then somehow it dulls, or something, and you feel about it anymore, as if it wasn’t necessary, even put him as a company commander to carry out the task, sergei bocheryakov, walked along with his soldiers, well, first of all, you look at the subordinate personnel, you make the selection, that is, i have it - i had a platoon , i won’t name the number of personnel, but to carry out tasks i took with me two or three
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people, no more, who is the most - i see from his moral and business qualities that he can - complete the task, as they say, he won’t give up, so we went out with these kids and carried out tasks, that’s it, it’s like with us according to the tactics of action, you work out, make a retreat, it turns out, you take new pipes and, if you don’t hit the target, then you go and hit, i think that all commanders need to go through this, because they will really see the whole situation, how it all happens , well, it will work out, you will get experience for yourself, you will know how what, where then in the future to pass it on with the star of the hero of russia, they were awarded for the battle that took place
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in a small group, well, a certain group of people was selected who would storm everything with me. into the trenches themselves and me i sent a signal over the radio that i was starting to work, so that neither our tanks nor artillery would work. the battle started and then you see what the situation was, intelligence reported to me that there were no more than five people there, but it turned out to be much more, there was probably even more than a platoon, there were up to 50 people there, and they began to fight with them, that’s how would you make a decision there to retreat, why, when i saw the number of personnel, or rather the enemy, how many of them ran there... left-right and the work of other types
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of weapons on us, which was being practiced, there heavy equipment was working on us, and guns and grenade launchers, at that moment i shouted retreat, when we began to retreat, to leave their line, i felt that they were starting to hammer us from behind, they began to put us in a vice, to enter the vice from the rear , when bocherikov realized that there was no way out of the encirclement. on the radio he called fire on himself, at that moment i called the artillery on myself , because there was no way out here, god was just on my side, the artillery worked , they made a certain corridor, a unit jumped out, after we came out, i began to count the personnel, two people were missing, they pulled out, evacuated, two soldiers and sent them away, that’s it, then our task was to hold the defense, because the enemy
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realized that we were attacking, and since they see that we behaved impudently, climbed something directly to them, we expected that they would attack us, held the opornik for 3 days, after these battles bocherikov’s unit was taken to rest, in the rear he conducted classes with the mobilized, and then he learned that he had been introduced to the title of hero of russia, did everything that he had to go through change sergei, he himself says that partly yes, but not of course, after all these assaults there, the fact that you fought, you already look at life differently, you... are already her you value it much more there, because after all these battles, clashing battles , after all, god is on our side, you survived, and you reconsider life differently, appreciate it many times over, just like an epiphany appears . hero of russia mayor sergei bocheryakov continues to carry out combat missions at the forefront, although the specifics of these tasks now it has changed somewhat;
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you can make a feature film about what each of the heroes of our material had to go through without any involvement. cinema, but they themselves talk about their military journey without the slightest pathos and even seem embarrassed by attention. considering the difficult battles you were in, did you regret that you followed the officer’s path? no, i didn’t regret it at all, you know, there’s a phrase here: who if not us and so on, well, i won’t go, he won’t go, who will defend the country, it doesn’t matter. we must be patriots on their side, so no, i don’t
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