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1990. the lord destined us to live in a time when many false evils appeared in the world, which come to us in sheep’s clothing, inside they are ravenous wolves, all of today’s ukraine is dotted with such graves with inscriptions. a combed-out exhausted hero of ukraine, that is, a temporarily unidentified hero of ukraine, buried on september 5, 2014, and these were all volunteers, these were all unconscripted who came to fight in donbass, they even themselves they sign that these were volunteers, so they came to donbass, donbass didn’t come to anyone, but they came, here’s another hero of the national battalions, with their coats of arms on the back.
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they drew their units, they have it written for a reason, for them, as you can see, the aidar man is buried, and besides , the inscription slaves are not allowed to reach paradise, the dead have no shame, the same is impossible on the other side, on the other side it is of course impossible, this potutin is destroying everything, they destroyed the monument and the grave, the heroes of our winds of the great patriotic war are destroying the graves, breaking, breaking, commemorative plaques will soon break all the mass graves, but here, you see, these are our enemies, how to say, of donbass, who came to kill us, well, you see, the graves stand untouched, not even watered, and there are no inscriptions on them, no there are no offensive inscriptions, on the maidan there is their verse that they wrote, here is mom, forgive the devil for the black scarf, mom, forgive me for the black scarf, for the fact that now you will always be alone, you... i love and love ukraine, she, like
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you, was the only one i had, this is the verse of the maidan, this by the way, the verse of the heavenly hundred was, basically all the national battalions were buried, ah ... i worked for 30 years in combat zones, this is what i always take with me, in my camera bag, i have the camera itself, batteries, heat, cards , this means my set for filming , cigarettes, pills for headaches, wet wipes, you know, for washing somehow, sometimes chewing gum, i also have icons with me, not so long ago a shell arrived here,
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right? yes, this is the same road, now it is a little broken. what is he saying sasha, there are a lot of drones here, it’s necessary hide. i watched the news in london on tv, bbc, itv, american channels
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, i remember, after 8 months of hostilities, i did not see a single interview with russian soldiers here in ukraine, with real soldiers who... and after 30 years of work in the hot spots , i think it's fair to say that the coverage of this conflict in the western media is the most one-sided, that's why i wanted to come here, that's the first reason, everyone only sees one side and i think that's dangerous. soviet union, i explained to everyone, i say the regiments told igor, they taught me, they taught us, they strangled us one by one, you know, all the same, 10%
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were only against it, i was in that number, they all had radio, they were already blurting out for it, from morning to evening, then we need to introduce standards into army, then... that’s all, i won’t tell you what all people understood, but i understood, i suffered, ukraine’s independence was marked by the defeat of three dioceses in lviv, ivano-frankivsk and ternopol. ukrainian greek catholics came out as if from under the field that sakharov wanted, they were at first, i remember there, they were on the arbat when i was still studying then, that means, i saw, that means, how they stand on the arbat there, modest, there, give us freedom , there, give us there, that means, there to pray there, that means, that’s how the lambs stood like that, such khilkah, such, that means, with crosses, as it were, then they suddenly began beating priests, tearing down locks , as if organizing some kind of terror and squeezing out such means of the clergy from the villages they had acquired, as if from their usual parishes, they captured three dioceses, and this lviv-frankivsk, that is, ukrainian
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independence is equal to a war with the church, it synchronized in time and spiritually united, as it were, that is, this is ukrainian independence, who is at war with the orthodox church. that is, in its modern form, ukrainian independence, because ukrainian independence in the cossack understanding, it was beat the poles and remain orthodox, that defeat of the orthodox dioceses in lviv, ternopil, ivano-frankivsk, which took place in the early 90s, on the wave of wild nationalism, with with the help of the paramilitary organization unso. when the orthodox forces were expelled from their churches, when clergy were beaten, when orthodox shrines were desecrated, this could have been imagined in the wild middle ages, but when this happens in the 20th
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century, we do not want to moscow and the moscow patriarchate, we are devorited nationally. church, we have our own patriarch, the kiev patriarchate, ukraine. as long as the church has existed, as long as the church will exist, it will be used for political purposes, the events that take place against the church, the seizure of churches, this is an attempt to break that one
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the connection that exists between russia and ukraine, the entire bandera movement , all ukrainian nationalism, which, with the help of western sponsors, turned into ukrainian nazism, today and because of which denazification is taking place, everything went specifically to the sunian church, puniaism is the main reason for all these processes, that is, the problem is: on the territory of the polish-lithuanian kingdom, where there was a huge number of ethnic ukrainians, orthodox christians, they
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dreamed of bringing all these ukrainians into the catholic faith to unite them with the roman the throne, this is a union, that is, a union, well, a union, a soviet union, a union with whom, with the roman throne, of all orthodox, to facilitate the process, it would be necessary to leave all external differences to the orthodox, only so that by faith and discipline they would submit to the pope, for example, polish priests-shaved and orthodox bearded. says: leave your beard, we don’t touch your beard , you have water-blessing prayer services there , we don’t seem to have them, leave all your water-blessing prayer services, as it were, otherwise, then there is a uniform, let it be yours, for ease of transition, our heart, well, like your boots, like my soul, and you with me, like they have a medal, knocked out a medal in roman style, uniatsu of 1596, recipes rutenis, that is the annexed ruthenians, rusyns, that is, the rusyns united, as it were, with the roman one. union, the people did not accept it, a series of the most terrible upheavals began, which led to the destruction
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of the polish-lithuanian commonwealth, to the formation of the cossack army, to the union of ukraine with russia, to the pereyaslovsk radem and to a whole fountain of different processes, then uniadism, it did not disappear, it, from a huge scale, was localized to galicia, in fact, to these galician times, it reinvented itself as the custodian of some new historical ukrainian idea precisely through the crusades, catholic religious wars, catholics undressed to the east . and here, that means, when it was clear that the orthodox population, that is, western ukraine, the so-called red russia, if anyone remembers, could not be changed, the cossacks, then it was invented, so on itself, it means the greek catholic church or the unian church, in general there was a war, the first battle was, it was cain abel, no matter how there was... women , oil, dollars, there were land plots, civil, state borders, as if
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there was nothing at all, so that today would, as it were, provoke people to war, there was a question of spiritual primacy, who is in charge, whose sacrifice is more pleasing to god, in general, who is the coolest in the eyes of god, like me or you, in general, well, there was an attempt, as it were, to force i have to live my way, as if i the eldest there, i am the first-born, how would you do as i said, in general, war always has spiritual reasons, it cannot be otherwise, war is exactly how it happens. with russia, it has always been, one might say, spiritual, why alexander nevsky chose to be better with the tatars, with the east, yes, than with the west, because he knew the insidious goals of the west, the west needed more spiritual. the identity of our russian people, that is , they wanted to destroy our faith, that is
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, the orthodox faith, and how to assimilate ourselves into the catholic faith. europe changed its very soul people, destroyed orthodoxy as such, so this is generally a problem of orthodox peoples, the problem that western influence , western values, penetrate into orthodox countries and become an alternative to the church itself, let’s say there are people who are quite, let’s say, directed to the west, then , as they say, are tailored to the western model, although they are with the orthodox , while the west was really interested in russia and ukraine being divided into many religious movements, sects, movements, this is a great way to convey the western spirit, to change the spirit of the people, to question their identity, the west, as far as i can imagine, is doing this quite thoroughly and seriously, but
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it’s really not russia that is dealing with church issues there . congratulations lyudmila grigorievna, i’m afraid of torment, i’m afraid of everything, but you see, if we are all afraid, we will be driven lower and lower, but we will still die, i’m afraid,
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i’m afraid of torment, i’m afraid. you know what i consider a tragedy when i got my first job as a foreign correspondent in the ussr, and when i was 24 and i was a young journalist, i was then in lithuania, vilnius , there they declared independence from the soviet union, the people shouted, we want freedom, they were all catholics, they had candles in their hands, they prayed, i looked at young russian soldiers, soviet soldiers, i looked at the special forces, and did not talk, when i was in the office of president lansbergis, the phone rang, it was gorbachev, gorbachev said to lansbergis, you must give up your demands, you must stop this fight, because i lost control of the army, the soldiers can just burst into your place, then the phone rang next to me, and i was like, no one wants to pass the corpse, so i answered, it
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was yeltsin calling, i didn’t speak russian, but i realized that this would be the russian federation, i’m coming with a tube. answers gorbachev, no, we will not retreat, hangs up, here i am standing here 33 years later, and i understand what a mistake the west made, i think it is a mistake, a tragedy, when the ussr collapsed, the west had an opportunity, the same as after the end of the second world war, marshal, the west helped rebuild germany, it became truly a stable strong country, in my opinion, the tragedy is that we and we forgot about this in the west, and putin, no, we had the opportunity to help russia with what was left after the ussr, but instead of help, we sent young bankers there,
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who simply grabbed everything, we called it the triumph of democracy, some called it: this is the end of history, like from now on we will live in the wonderful world of western democracies, here i am, russian, after many years of persecution, in the early 1990s the process of revival of the catholic church begins churches on the territory of the former ussr. the starting point in gaining religious freedom for the republics of the union state is the meeting of soviet leader mikhail gorbachev with the head of the roman catholic church, the pope. in december 1989 at the vatican. gorbachev, when the union was being dismantled, he met with the pope, pavel the second. and some of the main issues they resolved were issues of the uniate church. it was, it was like a springboard for a further hike, further. well, for example, i remember i it was probably 20 years ago, so it was
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30 years ago, 32-35. i remember that political programs are sugar. andrei sakharov included such a point, there were few points, by the way, let’s say five or six points , one of these points is the legalization of the ukrainian greek catholic church, i think that this nuclear physicist there, imprisoned in nizhny novgorod, can generally understand about this, he can generally understand the difference between roman catholics and greek catholics, that is, this was some kind of serious kind of machinery politically so external, in 1999 with a pastoral visit, its preservation and development as an independent state.
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the visit of john paul ii to kazakhstan in september 2001 becomes unforgettable, despite the fact that in the republic there are no more than 100,000 catholics, about 3,000 of their co-religionists from thirty countries of the world reside in this central asian state. a few days later , john paul i visits armenia on a pastoral visit. he is cordially greeted by catholicos of all armenians garigen ii. eighty-two-year-old pontiff, whose health has been poor lately, flies to a predominantly muslim country, which has a very small catholic population. the holy father is greeted by azerbaijani president heydar aliyev. the trouble is that after the collapse of the soviet union, russia did not invest enough effort in burying. brotherhood, and europe and the usa, they worked hard enough to separate ukrainians from russia. i’ll give you a simple example: i used to teach at
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a university, and that’s when i went to faculty of history, there was a notice board there, and there were a lot of different grants, such a grant, go to holland, go to spain, go to poland, quite exciting offers for young people, there were grants for everyone except russia. that is, russia, it treated ukraine according to the principle of where you go. the devil's ide against christ. any revolution, as one person said, from a family fight to a revolution, war is the work of satan, the work of satan. it’s amazing how good it is for zelsky now, it’s a religious mess, no, it seems paradoxically, but nevertheless, your temple is beautiful. of course, well, there was also no money to put up a dome, so we can’t get it together for years, but the greek catholics built it once or twice, and the atovians helped them,
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probably, and canada and the supreme rada, whoever you want, just if there was only inter-confessional strife, well, so that the greek catholic christians can already be said to be silent, then businessmen went there, cars were parked, and if everything happened on february 24, let their churches stand, the witnesses left, but there was no connection support by to the internet, tanya, don’t go away, in 1875 buildings, yes , yes, 878, then the bell tower 3 years later our temple, the icons in this year the rostov diocese gave us in that year, the three-altar church, called the assumption, the central altar of the assumption, one dedicated to nikolai godnik,
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and one to the cross, and they gave us a piece of little christ, from there i’ll show you, now, when the war began, they gave it to us, they brought it, i used to love it so much , lord, have mercy, lord, have mercy, lord, have mercy! this is a small little piece, but that christ over there, on after the crucifixion of jesus christ, it was spread all over the world, the story is very long, of course, whoever wants to read, lord jesus christ, son of god, i even rejoice that god still gives this. the main thing on earth, as long as there is a priest placed between us and god, only our church can preserve this
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ordination from the apostles, what is ordained there in sects is not the same, in us grace is transmitted along the chain from jesus christ himself to the apostles, they ordained, in us from in our places, from st. andrew the first-called went, we remained in that byzantine devotion in our faith, those saintly, apostolic rules, this really is the root of all problems , they lived, were brought up, lived for what seemed like long centuries, and only then, let’s say, well, not very long there, but nevertheless, a century , this is tamstro-hungary, poland, then they have acquired completely different mental traits , they are really different in everyday life, they have a different attitude to money, to work, to family, to food, to a neighbor, to grievances, to love, there are others there , there are good and evil traits that are common they are not like us, they may be hardworking
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for example. twice, but four times more greedy, say, courage in battle is explained by stubbornness, for example, but at the same time, for example , vindictive and, say, touchy, for example, that is, they don’t know how to forgive, for example, here they leave us our debts, like we are already leaving our debtor, they seem to formally know these words, but they don’t, they don’t exist there in principle, they are vindictive, they put nationality above god, so what if the russian people? god consciously, not even like that before the revolution, with understanding, with knowledge of the scripture itself, knowledge of our faith, because we, that we, we are even worse than these, jehovah's witnesses, we don't know our faith, we need to know, this is our strength, also the holy fathers said that russia is holy , keep the orthodox faith, it contains your affirmation, here is ukrainian nationalism , it was built as the nationalism that opposes russia, i remember walking with
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a graduate of the ukrainian branch of the donetsk national university of philology and i said, do you remember you told me about that , what dzhakhar dudayev street is russian propaganda, i say, now raise your head, that means it raises its head and the sign, dzhakhar dudayev street, was ukrainian nationalism, which, of course, was built entirely as rejection of russia, as hatred of russia, as russophobia, it was , fed the entire soviet union. now look, there, first of all, i was in russia during yeltsin’s times, it really was a comparison, chechnya began, toasts were raised in ukraine, then, thank god, we don’t have it in chechnya, i remember these toasts in houses , already young people talked about it, this drunken yeltsin, who danced in treptov park, this whole policy then in russia was tragic, and in ukraine somehow this is what national circles have already used, look, here we are
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something higher. of all this, here we are the flower of the nation, my brother, who was in the ussr, my friends there reproached me that we enslaved chechnya there, that we did something else wrong there, right up to the point of physical this, that is, almost days before the fight, that is, i tried something to prove, these are the people of kiev, this is not western ukraine, they had this argument , i’m trying to prove to them that we are russians and you are russians too, they are not... we are not russians, all that stuff, i say, well, let’s go to the lavra, let’s go to the lavra, here is anthony feodosius pichersky, are they russian light or ukrainian, he says, yes russian, i say, why then do you think that you are ukrainians, invest in your country with a reliable vtb broker and the vtb-my investments application with free training and
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