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was ukrainianity as something against the russians, then there is ukrainianness, this it was not an identity that is built as opposed to russia , no, russians, russians, especially, well, my grandmother, she is russian , opposes something, that is , it is simply a fact of your existence, it is a free identity that is not built through opposition, in itself, because if my identity is ukrainian, i am the one who must resist the russians - this is a flawed identity, i am just ukrainian and that is enough, god created me. this is a cemetery in the city of starabelsk, my great-great-grandfather, filip gonotchenko, is buried here prokofievich, together with his wife, anotchenko olga linishna, they are natives of the city of starobelsk, when the great patriotic war began, he went like everyone else to the front of the great patriotic war, being already an officer then, he reached stalingrad,

after stalingrad he was, one of, as they say, founding fathers of smersh, he was older than smersh, in forty-four he came to the zhytomyr region and he was left there to fight war criminals, in particular with the bendera formations, he was much more famous, he was like with the benderaites, he was very fought, he himself was a very fearless man, we even have this story, my grandmother is still alive, that when in 1945, well, it was already autumn, bendera’s men attacked the house where he lived in zhitomir, they fired at his house, he grabbed a machine gun himself in his underwear in white, shouting: you’re lying, you won’t take it, he ran after them, and his great-grandmother screamed, filka , why are you shy, you’re talking about everything, he says, you can be seen in white, you can be seen that's all, when stalin's personality cult was debunked, the old communists came to him, and he it was just there, he was 1917, he said take off the portrait of stalin and then

he grabbed his revolver from him, like, and translated, we, in the name of stalin, went into battle, we, in the name of stalin, defeated fascism, we, in the name of stalin, restored the country, and now you are licking his portraits, you yourself licked them, and now you are taking portraits of him, you drove them out into the street , screaming, they say, we’ll take your portbilet away, and you say , they gave it to me, that’s the kind of person he was, he designed the mass grave here , he lit the eternal flame, i even have documents, the photographs are kept, maybe this gene... pro-russian, was passed on to me very strongly from him, ukraine is a culture, it ’s like saying, part of the russian people, it’s part of the russian, just like the germans, they also exist, bavarian germans, pameranian germans, that is, this is ukraine, and we are at war with bandera, we are at war with bonder’s horde, which came and captured ukraine, i said in one program that what was the first country the nazis captured in germany, germany, they captured germany , the same thing, here

bendera nazis captured ukraine. captured its people, captured its culture , seized its land, and now they are torturing it, now they want to rebuild it in their own nazi way, so we are fighting the bendery region, but not ukraine, ukraine. this is ukraine, this is the land, this is the land, this is the people, this is culture, wonderful culture, these are beautiful classics, by the way, this is the most interesting thing, when i was in captivity, i was the only one who knew all ukrainian, namely classics, classics, and this everything is a substitute for values, it’s all benderism, they decided take a rematch, can i ask you what your religion is, i just believe in god, i’m talking about religion. i was born, i was born catholic in a catholic family because my father is irish and my mother is portuguese, so i was baptized as a catholic, but over the years i became

non-denominational, you know, i don't care if you are orthodox, catholic, protestant, i i believe in god, but i don’t consider myself a catholic. i don't believe in confessions, american soldiers say so, there are no atheists in the trenches, and i understand this feeling perfectly well, so i i feel a connection with god, you know, it’s such a spiritual test when you’re in the trenches, on the front line and you think that your life could end, i’ve had a religious experience over these 30 years, but i don’t think of it as a bearded grandfather,

i had a powerful experience related to religion, i was kidnapped by the taliban and i thought they were tricking me, but they always talk about the sacred scriptures, about the koran, about god, i sat in the dark, only a small ray of sun penetrated me, i had a little. you and i could hear the birds' opinions and i found there there is more truth than any of these books written to prove the presence of god is meaningless, if a person does not believe, you cannot prove it to him, but the lord certainly calls by any means, some through sorrows, some through trials, but it’s good if he is within your reach, as they say, it’s convenient, but if it’s a terrible disease , and if it’s such a test that... you won’t be able to bear it, you’ll break, you’ll break, you’ll break, so you don’t need to wait until you break, you just need to believe, that’s faith - this is

a feat for the mind, here's the man first believes, and then understands, and not vice versa, some say, i will grow up, i will learn, i will read a lot of books, then i will think, i will change all the religions, and then i will choose a faith for myself, and a small child, a small one, believes, and a grandmother who... doesn’t know how to write, many people still exist like that, they sign with a cross, she believes and you can’t tear out her faith with tongs, so she believes in god, remember how she came out with a banner, here’s grandma, she’s alone, she defeated everyone, that’s the strength of spirit for you, for nine... years now, the temple has been subjected to constant shelling, there were flights right into the temple, right next to the temple, the roof was damaged, you can’t see the snow here now, exactly 40 holes in the roof, from shrapnel, from shells, the walls were broken,

the windows were broken, here we have a sunday school right here next to this side you can even look, the school at the holy blagodichsky church was also an abandoned building, we... our people here in our church, well, in general , tough, very tough, i don’t want to scare anyone, but you see, hear, tough, here and this is also thank god, today somehow we and i to communicate with you, before the beginning of the tragic events of the fourteenth year and until now. within the church itself there was unity regarding the fact that there is a canonical church, the ukrainian orthodox church, which was then headed by metropolitan vladimir, now headed by metropolitan anufriy, there was some kind of internal unity opposing these

nationalist tendencies and schism. when what happened in 1914 happened , the schism entered even within the ukrainian orthodox church itself, because this internal division also happened, conditional... westerners are conditional slavophiles, those who are trying to maintain unity with the russian world, with the russian people, with the russian people, and those who simply hate him or treat him arrogantly and contemptuously. because there really are two arrogances such arrogance russian such ukrainians there are the younger brothers of little russia the language was created in austria-hungary the ukrainian people were created there in the general staff and there is such a contempt for this high ukrainian that we are closer to europe, that we are the european people, and these are the descendants of the horde, these are the tatars there, everything like this, some like this, also on top there is maksha and all that stuff, that is, these are two arrogances, here are the events of the fourteenth

year and the events of 2004 years of the first maidan, they sharpened these points and the church schism entered even inside the ukrainian orthodox church, that is, those movements arose within the ukrainian orthodox church itself, which were determined that moscow and i are not brothers, and we just need to then it's the right time to catch it move away. metropolitan philoret, former exarch of ukraine, who became head. schismatic of the ukrainian orthodox church, was a candidate for patriarch, but was not chosen, candidates for patriarch, he was offended, he was charged there, we won’t go into that now, however, he was offended and they allowed him, kravchuk, his godfather , was the president of ukraine, they allowed him to occupy vladimir, this vladimir cathedral. with the relics of the great martyr in kiev, his people

went to my uncle, they came to father mikhail, with gasoline, just like that they poured gasoline on the house, so they said, now we’ll set the house on fire, either you go to the philaret, or we, that is, we’ll set the house on fire, and this priest was at his patronal feast, he made his bed and washed his feet, and he it is customary for all priests to wash their feet when they come to visit him. he says: brother, i just received you, fed you, you slept in my room, and you , he says, i don’t know anything, you should go to filoret, and there were such people, by force, filoret tried to drive everyone into his schismatic church, he succeeded frightened the priests a lot, many followed him, then most of them left, repented, went back, lord of the kingdom of heaven , metropolitan vladimir, he was very wise,

very kind, he was able to consolidate society, and most of the church remained, and of course philorette , this is politics, thank you, yes, what kind of cookies, this is don, purebred rothwiller, from home , don, don, good, good boy, good, yes, yes, donushka, don, don, good, this is the temple of the holy royal martyrs , the best temple in the world, that's what i tell people, people sometimes they say grandma, you love so much because he is ours, yes, because he is ours, because he is royal, the royal family is very close to me, very understandable, there is cowardice and deception all around, that’s what the tsar said, this is very for me close, the temple is magnificent, the temple was built according to this golden ratio in architecture, this... it was taken from old temples brick by brick, i tore it down this temple,

no one invented it, there were 19 architects, but not one of them created it, because i visited the temple, the temple was definitely 200 years old, i i just took it off brick by brick, in order to build the temple that our grandfathers were building, and there was an explosion, 4-5 m from me, it killed a man, a parishioner of mine came to me next to me, bowed down and greeted my father. to death right away, this elena, my assistant, she was also wounded through and through, through and through, look at the tops of the trees, everything is very serious, so standing on the street once again is not very good, i have four through and through wounds, one capercaillie in me sitting, stitched, arms, here are the legs,

tents, thank god, they had an operation in moscow, vishnevsky, the military hospital, but i don’t feel hatred towards people towards ukrainians , our people are there, well, a confused person, like a child leaving home, says: mom, dad, i can do without you, i’ll go there, live in a hostel , there are girlfriends there, good friends, we will live there, everything will be fine with us, but this does not mean that we should hate him, or betray him or forget him, no, it hurts, more than that. it’s exactly the same here, for a while people thought that you can live without god, that you ca n’t love so much, that’s why i don’t i saw that one of the... people, and i can say this, without any statistics, i know this better than the extras, hated ukraine, hated the ukrainians, that someone wanted their children to cry, for them to die parents , in order to destroy cities, especially kiev, the mother

of the russian land, a shrine of orthodoxy, colonels came to me in the hospital, old man, this is lethal, there can be no options here. what if a shell came so quickly and landed near you, the shrapnel cut everything, beat everything, and me stitched many times, but the vital organs were not affected, the stomach was intact, the head was intact, everything else was patched, sewed, the vessels were sewn, these veins, arteries, everything else, it was serious, this is what i believe, i hope i know exactly what it is to the prayers of tsar nicholas, faith is eternal, faith is glorious, our faith is orthodox, do you hear what acoustics , what i was talking about, no microphones are needed, none of this is needed , there is no reverberation, the sound is not confused, does not interfere, this is our temple of the royal

martyrs , water is leaking, unfortunately, yes, unfortunately, the domes were damaged. we russian in spirit in ukrainian language is not a problem for us, as it seems so, well, i spoke russian with my mother from birth, badka i have cheats, siberian, that’s why somehow it is, well, in general, we are people the whole people, the whole people, the russian spirit, the whole russian spirit, the whole smells of russia, look at what a wonderful photograph, where the tsar father is with alexy, look at the tsar’s eyes, how he... holds his child, how happy and glad he is that an heir was born, because what a weak family, he says, what a weak king, look, i went into the altar myself, and i myself accept the holy gifts, if russia needs a sacrifice, i am ready to become one, come on, ask today, many

will be able to, here are the orthodox warriors, they are this sacrifice, so unfortunately the falcons are leaving us ours, the orthodox... warriors pay a dear price, god forbid, an enemy forever and ever. a little bit our calling card, this is the hymn of orthodoxy: god confirm the holy orthodox faith, the faith of orthodox christians, it’s a pleasure to serve, pray, sing here, just open your mouth, i

’ll tell you this, we in the west don’t remember it so well historical events, in this regard, we have a memory like a goldfish, every time i travel around the world, in afghanistan, for example, their country was invaded by the british, russians, and we europeans barely remember what happened last year, in russia, on the contrary, you come here, and you feel a connection with history, when i was riding here, i understood that these are the very places where the battles of the second world war took place, i don’t need to call, it seems, there will already be russians standing there before landing battles, i was so happy about something, i took the hero’s ribbon, showed the tightness there, i don’t know whether it’s ours or theirs? there were holes there, the roof rose and fell, you would climb in there from and sit, and then everyone would make up all around, make up , in the summer kitchen there was so much, and

there was only one thing there, but they put two glasses everywhere that fell out, and suddenly we were there in the basement i feel a male and female voice in the middle... the roar, i tell them, sit, climbed out, climbed out, i’m amazed there, there’s a well, he’s here, and here, i say russian, yes, mother, russian, i can get a bandage, i think it’s possible , so let's go, there's still noise, and let's go to the room, there in me there was some kind of tincture that makes your arms and legs tremble, i was so afraid for its equipment, horror, now it’s no longer there, and the stinks have lost touch, there... it’s putting its horns in the window, the stinks are screeching, i’m afraid, we were so afraid, we they didn’t know who was the wildest on the street, but now we already know that he was wounded, yes, on his right hand, that’s the question, he couldn’t hold a machine gun, anyway. and the stinks came, oksana, i seem to climb , i think, why should i go through all the houses, and god brought him here, by the way, after reading

the prayer, i told him, vanya, your prayer it’s wrong, it’s a conspiracy, i seem to say, but nevertheless, i’m helping you read it for now, i say, well, when it’s all over, you end up in the hospital, i’ll have to, i say, after reading the gospel, i know my faith, on the second day, we’ll be amazed , two tanks arrived, the muzzle was against us, they stationed one. one blew against these neighbors, about 30 people jumped, probably, i don’t know, so many soldiers, vanya didn’t understand right away, we can’t understand, a sign that there were two circles of such fire, one circle, on one and on the other, orange circles, scattered , they started walking around the courtyards, why the stinks were joking there, i don’t know, from the wines, it’s not ours, it seemed to us that we were ordered not to walk around the courtyards, and that’s all, the stinks started to appear from time to time, and here, of course, before that i prayed terribly. and then such fear attacked, i say, it was not so much faith as it was fear, when the stinks began

to come on our side, they came all the way through the door, of course we had our lives, it was so hard, well, they carried us into the dark room, he and the children got out, said something, well, if the stinks had come, they would have found everything, well, what should we do, anyway, mother, anyway, you will say that i will force you at gunpoint, this is oksana , your daughter, you will say, they prayed, i am listening, lord, all the saints, all the unholy, all those who died in all the wars of these russians, soldiers, officers, and mikhail kutuzov, and oleksandr suborov, alexander nevsky, called on everyone, prayed like that, in general, like no one else in life, you know, i don’t know, whether it was a prayer, or an accident, i later found out, they came here, our two houses with the women were missed and they moved on, so they were joking, we don’t know. and then, a long time ago, we got ready to run and leave, well, then some plane was flying low

so, they were probably killed there, well, i mean, what the neighbors told me, the stinks said kadirovtsy came in, now they turned around, left, this moment we experienced the most, the most difficult, grandma, she took us, they took ours big family, thank you very much, i'm sorry, we didn't have time to wait for you, eat, he got the bread , they put it in a bread bag, all the people are intimidated, everyone is afraid that ukraine will return, read it on the internet, let me give you something then i’ll show you, i’m from the west, unchurched, liberal, but i always have these two with me little things, wherever i am, a friend gave me this 30 years ago. this icon was with me when i was filming a film about the taliban, i know that

the taliban are against such things, this is the madonna with jesus, this is an icon from russia, my friend, she may even have bought this icon in ukraine, i have a good friend who loves russia, this icon was with me in the east, when i was kidnapped, i thought that if the taliban found the icon with me, i did not want to lose this icon. i always have her in my heart with photographs of my children. when the taliban kidnapped me, i hid the icons photos of my children at potinki. i spent 20 years in iraq and afghanistan with american and british soldiers. but i also worked with arab soldiers who fought with i wanted

to put on myself american and british flags with an eagle, an american eagle, which means an american eagle and under it the inscription freedom, on the other hand i wanted to write jihad, in arabic holy war. what i like about jihad is the original meaning. concept is a spiritual struggle, the struggle to be a good person, and when i read the bible and the koran, i found many beautiful truths there, yes, ordinary people have the same thoughts on this matter, here is another god, already different, i can’t even exchange this bill here, you didn’t exchange your god for these bills, no, here in donetsk, when i offer... dollars they tell me: we don’t need these dollars, in general we are dealing with a big catastrophe, you know, no matter how well you can’t laugh in the hospital. but it’s not funny anymore,

yes, that is, it’s like, well, yes, the patient has armed himself since then. this is how ukraine declared itself our enemy, a mortal enemy, and she set the goal of our destruction, physical destruction as her lands, she called there , say, kuban, there the krasnodar region, there is something else there, they have such nonsense in their heads, everyone had to stop laughing, from top to bottom, everything forget and take it seriously, as one woman said after the holocaust, she says: everything i learned during the holocaust, if someone said that he wants to kill you, take it seriously, don’t think that it’s a joke. that the germans are a very cultured nation, all the jews said the same thing, well, what concentration camps, what ovens, the germans are a very cultural nation, they have goeth, they have, after all, schiller, everything else, there are a lot of ours, the germans are a very cultured nation, so this is it’s a terrible mistake to generally underestimate an enemy who has already called you an enemy, and you still consider him a brother, he’s no longer a brother, he’s gotten over it, he’s no longer a brother, he’s a victim, i

mean, he’s a victim of his idiotic dreams,

but in principle he signed up. let's translate from clerical to understandable, everything is not

so scary if there are instructions. hello, i am boris sakinov, and i am oleg stepanov, and we, the creators of the russia 2062 project, the headquarters of free thought, together with experts, we are discussing how we can develop the russia of the future in the next 40 years. see you

in the future. our colleague, vgtrk correspondent, was awarded the order of courage posthumously. the decree was signed by vladimir putin. this is a reward for courage and courage shown in the performance of professional duty. boris died while filming a report in the zaporozhye region after a ukrainian armed forces drone strike. at these moments in a farewell ceremony is taking place in moscow for our colleague and friend. and in direct contact with

the studio anton potkovenko. anton, i now