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[000:00:00;00] and the design of our meeting with the minister is still focused on the fact that our foreign guests will ask questions, but i have one participant in our hearings, who has been waiting his turn for a whole year since the eighth readings, this is sergei markov, i ask him to provide microphone, and he himself will answer any question that thank you very much , you know, i also have an academic question from my colleagues, there will also be a question like this, even almost philosophical, and you know, on the one hand, we are now, as it were, distancing ourselves from the west, with on the other hand he is, well, an extremely active subject, so the question arises, since we did not expect that he would act like this , yes, that the outright neo-nazi regime in
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ukraine would support that the elections were apparently rigged in the united states of america for the first time in the history of the united states, like this, either we were mistaken, that the west was somehow more positively perceived, yes, or it may be degenerating, and the situation is a little like a horror film, remember, there is a stranger there, others, when there was a group of people suddenly turns into some kind of monsters, it seems to me that many of us now perceive the west this way, partly, you have a huge experience of communicating with these colleagues, i can imagine, this is your idea of what is happening there and what we will continue to expect from them, they have already completely turned into monsters, or they will go even further along this path, or something like that , return back to the human community, the organization of the united nations, but what should we
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expect from them and what is the nature of this process, thank you, well, about the fact that it’s possible that the west is being reborn, sergei and i didn’t direct this story, but it turned out that i have a quote in my pocket, a long time ago, long ago it was possible, this is about rebirth, it was long ago possible to predict that this frenzied hatred, which for 30 years, every year, has been more and more incited in the west against russia , will someday break loose. the moment has arrived. russia was simply offered suicide, a renunciation of the very basis of its existence, a solemn recognition that she is nothing more in the world than a wild and ugly phenomenon, like an evil that requires
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correction. there is no point in deceiving yourself anymore. will come to blows with the whole of europe. 1854 fyodor ivanovich tyutchev. here are three quotes, verbatim quotes from his letters. he returned to this topic many times. this is the question of whether the rebirth of the west has come, or has it been reborn? i can't say what. this is the ultimate truth , but the fact that no one ever really loved us is a fact, that they took advantage of us by creating situational coalitions, and the french, and the english, and the germans, of course, austro-hungarians, this is also a fact
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, sitting here is a man who... lives in the beautiful country of bulgaria, how could it even occur to someone that in 2 years , in 3 years, just like that, they will start moving monuments there, desecrating priests, taking away property, how could this even occur to anyone, someone told me, tyutchev is right, and after him, almost 200 years, there are many such examples, and what happened after... they just decided that we were in their pocket, the end history, liberal ideology has prevailed, in economics, in politics, everyone must now obey the elder, the elder has fixed everything , arranged everything, some people have adopted a beautiful declaration in the osce as a diversion, the charter of paris for a new europe,
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1990, read this paris charter. which the french then promoted with such pride and look now, put it on top of what france is doing, specifically france, specifically president macron, eh. osce summit in istanbul 1999, indivisibility of security, 2010 summit in ostan, the indivisibility of euro-atlantic and eurasian security, then this promising term was already used, all right, everything, excuse me, the cat is in trouble, as soon as they were ordered to get into formation, because the task arose, to punish russia for daring not to allow the americans to create lawlessness on their borders on their historical lands, and i emphasize once again, they warned,
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well, firstly, at least since 2007 from the munich speech, there was such a first warning, and very specifically, they warned immediately after the coup d'etat, but there, even those who... had eyes and ears would have seen and heard , because donbass stood up as a wall, crimea went to its native harbor, as they say, no one listened for 8 years, on our borders, when 2003 year, the americans thought that saddam hussein had created some kind of nuclear reactor there or some kind of nuclear dirty bomb, they had been warning someone for 8 years, but no, they got up in the morning, so... security council, if you don’t want it, well, do n’t , we are without you, and where is this iraq now? when they look, now they show how we are we are working on ied targets, which, military
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targets, which they hide in civilian areas on civilian objects, what a howl arose, like the same eir lopit, being the prime minister of israel, the minister of israeli affairs, as he read his quote, that it was almost genocide. and now there is a tragedy and war, compare the pictures, or, take syria, they just decided that since such a mess began there, it is necessary to take away from assad the eastern territory, where all the oil, all the grain, what they did, the city of mosul in iraq, really razed to the ground, just like there city of cancer. in syria, hundreds of corpses were not removed for weeks, this is all documented, and it is possible, and not on the border with mexico, this threat has arisen, there are just refugees fleeing, they
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are now going to build a wall, that’s it, this is the whole threat, but now in canada there are some other super pigs there that are eating something, all the villages are there, there was a report yesterday, here are all the threats, these... bombs, yugoslavia, existential threats to the united states, 10,000-odd miles across the ocean, no one they don't warn us, it's just how we do it decided, we went, that’s the problem with this western mentality, these western instincts, i have a lot of friends in the west, including in the usa, well, in europe, probably more, we worked with them, many were ministers. and well, they were completely
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friends, so that’s how it’s customary, they pursue the party line, how is this possible, why are you? ukraine is poor, they are talking about nazism, and not about the fact that the israeli ambassador in kiev, a country where they sing about criminals, no, they are nazi criminals for us, but ukraine has its own history, it’s hard for them, like everyone else, it’s true. but it’s like one metamorphosis has happened, we are now, when we arrive at the event, but they just walk along the corridor, look
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with their eyes, so as not to be face to face, and cross to the other side of the street, as in that novel, but there is and those, i won’t name anyone now so that they wouldn’t be there, were ostracized by those who come up and say hello, by the way, last year at the g20 summit, blinken asked to talk, we talked to him, shook hands by the hand, said goodbye by the hand , nothing like that was said there, but at least it was some kind of communication, if someone contacts us, we never run away or hide, but i repeat, right now macedonia seems to have invited us to
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the council of foreign ministers and the country of bulgaria seems to have promised macedonia open up our airspace, if this succeeds, we will be there, we will see how they will communicate, there are already several requests for a meeting, in case we work there, including from western representatives, of course, we will meet with everyone. but i want to finish answering this question, it turned out to be a bit long, but this is an interesting topic, however, i want to finish with the following, in addition to the osce, in addition to pryamakov’s readings, there are many political science gatherings, one of them takes place in december, annually, in abudad, siborniya, this forum is called, and it's my first time there.
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turned out last year, there are, uh, well, according to tradition, there are two or three, uh, speakers from current politicians, and dozens of former ones, these dozens of former ones - this is the most interesting thing, but because after the speech there was a break, and we went out into some hall there's coffee, tea, uh, crowd. everyone knows everyone, everyone just wants to talk amicably, express understanding, well, judge for yourself, that is, when a person, well, probably there is logic in this, if you are in the service, you must do what you are ordered, another thing is that the quality of orders sometimes, that’s all more and more often it happens that a normal person wants to resign, well, like this... this is how they manifest themselves, i
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don’t believe that the west has any purpose to constantly hate russia, but how quickly they all these delicate speeches of assurances that from the atlantic to the pacific ocean, everything is the same for us, security, the economy and space in general are the same: how quickly all this disappeared, oh, how quickly these instincts of uniting europe against russia surfaced again , how napoleon united europe against russia, how hitler united europe against russia. this is where we are now doing our explanatory work, actively showing history. with the same finland, as finland
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was the best friend of hitler’s germany and actively helped it, they thought that all this it will go away that after such wars , sincere reconciliation, you know why all this took so long, well, there are, we have many proverbs that express the soul and character of our people. patient people, there will endure everything there was some kind of thing there, for the sake of something there for the sake of something bright, but on the other hand there is a proverb, yes god endured and commanded us, but to eat cut seven times, measure, cut once , so we measured, measured , measured these 8 years, it’s not easy, it’s not easy, but here it is again, chronicle, now, which is often
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shown, prisoners, germans and others europeans were being driven, in 1944, 1945, somewhere to siberia , through villages, through cities, grandmothers came out, gave bread, gave water, and called for mercy to the fallen, we also said that, i don’t know, i don’t i will never claim that there is some kind of exceptional people, this is their destiny. our american and english colleagues, but this is the quality of the russians of our entire people, well, they are probably somehow... underestimated, or they think that it will always be like this, they will do nasty things to us again, and we will again
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make bread for them, but you have to be neighbors with those who are there, a couple of questions, please, colleague from syria, expert from syria, mr. minister, in fact, you have already answered half of the questions about syria, iraq and even palestine, but about the quality of russians, i wanted to say, culture, values , everything that russia really defends now, including even those brex countries. soft power, when will it be mosfilm again, multi-siren films, russian literature, before, when the soviet union existed, there was progress, there were a lot of newspapers that are published in other languages, when this
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soft power, once again we will see it in our countries abroad, advanced so that it opposes the values that it is now promoting... this is unacceptable for humanity. thank you, with regard to the number of soft power agents, in the form of the same non-governmental organizations that have already been discussed, as well as with regard to the number of military bases abroad, we will not keep up with the americans, we will not be chased away. and especially since, as i already said, their soft power is a continuation of the state, probably this is how it should be, because
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the state encourages soft power so that they know the truth about your state, and treat you well, and do not oppose you, do not succumb to provocations, when they want to recruit someone against russia, this is how they travel now, they travel around central asia, they travel officially appointed envoys on sanctions from america, from the european union, from england, go and publicly say, yes, you are there in the csto, in the eu, in the cis, in the shanghai cooperation organization, but you must comply with our sanctions, this, well, in my opinion, this just arrogance, i understand that they want to achieve this, but you can have stupidity at the same time, you can.
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by the way, he also demands from china, it would seem that china is obliged, but there is one, deputy secretary of state forgot sherman, in my opinion, she said a couple of years ago, well, not a couple of years, a year ago, we know our shortcomings, we have nothing to hide them , they are largely explainable by history and some kind of inertia that remained, especially before the start of this sanctions war, a hybrid war, but we want to be known objectively, and of course, we do not have
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the same financial capabilities as those who prints dollars, i’m already bringing my national debt closer to 35 trillion, and no one knows how they will get out of it, there is only one way, print further and make sure that this dollar continues to be used by everyone, this is hardly possible, but this is their problem, let them do their propaganda, with us much smaller amounts, but our network of embassies is growing, including in africa, we are restoring our shame, opening new consular offices in the middle east, southeast asia, latin america, and the network
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of houses of russian culture is actively growing and strengthening, improving the quality sciences. russians at home, so to speak, we have now developed a concept of promoting international development, within the framework of which all the assistance that we provide free of charge or on preferential terms to foreign countries , food, the creation of schools, healthcare, institutions and much more, so that all this is united. and so that there is a division of labor, and so that we can see what , where projects are being implemented, recently this has been scattered among different, different departments, and of course, such a great miracle as the russian language is ours, our very strong soft power, and we are sharply increasing enrollment, maintaining connections with in many countries , an association of graduates of russian
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universities has been created, this is a very very useful, open, positive, soft force, and of course, in the countries with which we are friends, we are also creating russian courses language, in central asia, in other countries, in azerbaijan, in armenia, russian schools have been created. including according to the programs of our ministry of education, branches of russian universities, this seems to me to be the predominant soft power that we will promote, uh, in comparison with some kind of undercover operations, when , uh, some employee of a non-governmental organization buys
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a boat for six people, they blow up everything ... ask a question, and i ask you, for the sake of maintaining gender balance, please introduce yourself, thank you very much, my name is sovelyeva , youth section of the section, i would like to ask the following question about space, in your opinion, cooperation in the field of space exploration, it very much depends on the international legal framework, which path the development of international law as a whole will take and in particular space law, universal treaties will be concluded on the basis of the un, a treaty on outer space, as an agreement, a move will be made towards bilateral and multilateral treaties within the framework of blocs, well, for example, the artemis agreement, or there will be
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a complete rejection of legally binding documents in favor of soft law, your vision is very interesting, thank you very much, that cooperation in space was probably the most striking example when interests, selfish... or simply national interests were structured in such a way as to put joint efforts into the exploration of outer space, even the apollo alliance, remember, then no one, neither the usa, nor the soviet union, of course, nor now russia sacrificed and does not sacrifice its national interests, on the contrary, the national interest was manifested in
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that by joining forces in this area, it is possible to learn more, to know more and to quickly understand how this much more can be used in practical life, not only in space, but on earth, and that now the international space station remains, it’s kind of surreal when our cosmonaut goes to the usa to train for flights on spacex ships. and the americans come to our star city to train, then fly to itustan on our carrier, it’s hard to imagine any other field of activity, now, apparently, this is the responsibility of scientists on both sides, who understand that this experiment, which is far from an experiment, but it’s just such everyday, hard work, it’s very useful work for science, for the future technological development of the world, what is it it’s important and god bless everyone involved in this, but life goes on, the international
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space station has already had its lifespan extended a couple of times. it is not eternal, now we are creating our own, the chinese have created theirs, we have joint plans with the chinese, nasa leaders seem to be saying that they are also not averse to continuing cooperation after the ncs wears out its resources, but on a political level level, we don’t hear such things, the current elite, they are guided by the fact that now, while we need russians, we will use them there now, but in the meantime we will create our own, but i repeat, those who specifically lead nasa, they take, take a different position, the outer space treaty remains, and by the way , it covers, according to our legal assessment, it
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also covers the status of the moon, so the american document, which... they are several years old developed ago, they are starting to invite individual countries into it selectively, it will contradict the correct and fair interpretation of the outer space treaty, because there is the moon and other celestial bodies in this treaty, well, another direction of legal development in this area, of course, military aspects, we, together with the people's republic of china, we have long been promoting in geneva at the disarmament conference a draft treaty on the prevention of an arms race in outer space, we are promoting the initiative not to place weapons in space, since the united states categorically disagrees with this, we have even done , well, this, if you like, is a tactical step back, and we suggest
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, for starters, to start by considering obligations, individual obligations. every country did not place the first weapon in space, many countries joined and we we will continue this work, and of course, the americans are making the opposite initiative , they say we have the right to launch weapons into space, we will not sign such obligations, not do this, and you and the chinese are preparing anti-satellite weapons so that our satellites , intelligence , they have economic importance to destroy , this is what the conversation is going on now, but it is clear that in the geopolitical atmosphere that has developed after the start of the hybrid war against russia it is very difficult for this kind of to continue discussions, especially since the americans are crazy, i can’t find another word, they are waging a campaign, twisting everyone’s arms,
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trying to either exclude... russia from many bodies that deal with practically important things, or limit russia’s participation in these bodies, so that the battle is continuing again, thank you very much, it was a broadcast between. people's forum pryamakov readings, which opened in moscow. this year, its theme is the horizons of post-globalization. traditionally , foreign minister sergei lavrov spoke at the event. vtb in in the past year, he managed to seriously compensate for the losses that he suffered in 2022. the head of the bank , andrei kostin, spoke about this at a meeting with vladimir putin. the organization
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is restoring its capital base and achieving record levels. on profit, kostin also reported on how the work of the united shipbuilding corporation is progressing. by decree of the president, vtb received the government's stake in its shares for trust management. this is done to improve the management efficiency and development of the shipbuilding industry. let's start with shipbuilding. how do you master it? today there is a very large number we have orders for all types of vessels, including dry cargo ships and tankers. and fishing boats, fishing boats and passenger ships, the river and the sea, there is a very high demand, great, i see that you have loaded there, i know about your movements around the factories, this is very good, but as a bank, the bank is good, the year is very successful , not only for vtb, but for the entire banking sector, and you know, i reported to you
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