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to work already became a member of russian scientific institutes, yes, on the other hand, what ’s interesting is that you told us that you were leaving to process the results of your research back to your village. the veranda, yes, the house hangs over the gorge itself, one might say, yes, from the veranda there is a view of, i don’t know, 100 million rubles, here you are, you also write a blog, yes, where physicists from all over russia participate in this blog, and you conduct some streams and discuss some things, it’s very interesting what’s happening, actually. on the veranda of a high-mountain dagestan village, well, yes, that is, it turns out that this is such a practical proof of what can be, this is such a seething, blooming complexity, yes, well, i’ll tell you, that’s all, it, it happened naturally, it wasn’t conceived,

this is like your small homeland, this is always the place of your strength, this is your father’s home and accordingly, you began to appreciate it all more when you were already outside the pre... location, accordingly, you began to invite your friends there, and scientists, we sit there on the veranda, they come there with their families, we kind of agree there in the summer, here the year before in the summer, a chemist and a physicist came there, we sit there, talk with families , in the evening we discuss science there over a cup of tea, we go hiking there, there they talk about their region, i talk about mine, we learn about each other, in in general and in general in terms of... science, i’m the ones mostly i write articles there, or the most cherished articles, there are articles that need to be written quickly for a project, and sometimes i call it for the soul, it’s for the soul that i try to write there, because no one

distracts me, the location is so remote place, it absolutely does not prevent me from doing this, but can we imagine that in 2062, and maybe earlier , technology, way of life, way of life will allow me to do science like this about science, because i am processing these experiments, working place. i somehow caught it near the stove, i’m sitting there processing it, now you’re holding something in your hands, i’ll actually say that we just asked some of our heroes, sometimes we will ask, to take some thing with them to the studio, which we would like to take in this very conditional year 2062 into the future, here you brought something with you , what is it, yes here is a mobile phone, yes no, no, that’s what you think it’s like called, that's literally it? on

monday she was lying on the veranda and i was like this you wrote, asked to send it quickly, today i received it, this is our family heirloom, it was given to my mother, it was in my grandmother’s dowry, these are pelinal belts, you can see it, it’s already worn out, apparently from what it was remade, in general, for me it’s such a thing, very valuable for our family, because in it i rocked my younger brother, some kind of, yes, well, these are elastic bands, that is, well, a cradle, it is in all cultures, and a ritual there is swaddling, a ritual of laying down, and thus two belts of the child are laid down, for first of all, this is for me a symbol of tradition, family, and memory, history , probably something like this, that is, in these swaddling rooms

- even your grandmother, yes grandmother, that is, the child is put in a cradle, swaddled, and just tied up so that you didn’t fall out of the cradle, they are more than 100 years old, yes, you see, it’s already worn out, well, my mother said that it was the grandmother who passed it on from inheritance to inheritance, like a mother passes it on to her daughter, as if betrayed and together with the devotee it was all as if it were being transmitted, in fact. when i have my children started to grow up, i just started to think about this, and so it was lying there in my suitcase, there at home, it’s like with age you start to appreciate all these things more, it’s family values, traditional ones, it’s like you start to in general, this is in all cultures, it’s like everyone has a bassinet, and this is a whole ritual , putting cradles there, well, in a child’s cradle, all this is there, by the way, i also found this cradle passing by, but now in the cradle

they no longer put the baby down, but before there was a cradle carved, wooden, it was made by one master, so it was passed down from generation to generation and uh, even a special wooden outlet was made by the master, that is, there was a mobile plug-in, there was even a toilet built into the cradle, that is, so that the child would not be harmed, well accordingly, it was for a boy... one, another for a girl, and it was carved, it was also passed down from generation to generation, these are the people, this seems to me, by the way, a very important thing, uh, that’s what culture, it arises from here, here, very specific things, yes, that are right here, exactly, yes, everything that surrounds you, the most important thing is that at arm's length, we all at some point feel that connection with

the earth... connection with generations , they, it actually shapes us to a very large extent, when, if this is violated, yes, then in general the culture dies, one can say, you are absolutely right, rilka, the german poet, has a very interesting remark in duino’s elegies that modern things are dead things, this thing is alive, from it the energy of life comes, the energy of... knees, the energy of traditions, the energy of the earth, the energy of the family. on the border of the khabarovsk territory there is an amazing place, the village of kukan, where russian descendants of cossacks, vienna, nanais, germans, and russified chinese, descendants of those who moved to the russian empire from china before the revolution, live among the forests. we go there to see how local hunters carry their

traditional way of life through centuries from the past into the future. i won’t be loud about wapiti at home, but this one’s harder, of course, in general, before, i more often roared into the trunk from a lie, you go, yell, no, if you have it with you, then you scream at the trunk, it also works, well, it works for the noble wapiti. this is a thing that lives, that’s why they pass it on, but who would think of passing on some diapers right now, they’re out of a pack. there, after a generation, we have everything like that, we have nothing left, we no longer pass on anything, we have nothing , the connection with living things is interrupted, rilki believed that america is a factory for destroying things, the more of their

crap they produce, the they tear off more things from their sacred roots, the less such sacred objects remain in them, that’s why families collapse, that’s why marriages take place unnaturally, that’s why they’re... dying out, degenerating, no one remembers any kind of kinship, by the way, as you said beautifully cradles, and i no longer know what cradles are, i don’t know, and i think that according to the story of my parents, they did not know either a cradle or a cradle, but this was actually part of the russian, russian consciousness, it was one of the most important russian things is a thing with roots, a thing with spirit, a thing with meaning, a thing with blood that is transmitted, with flesh, with consciousness. it is in these things that the worlds of our identity unfold and unpack, so the dagestanis preserve their identity, their tradition, they have numerous families, we must rejoice at this, another thing is that we must mourn that we russians have lost the cradle when we have these traditions ours, when we

forget these holy things, we will not have any russian future, a russian future, or we are passing quickly, almost passed turn towards the russian future. we were actually moving with great speed into destruction, into the western, such an inhuman, post-humanist future, and we still have, by inertia, the liberalism that has been preserved, it is still dragging us there. we need to make an immediate turn in order to get to 2062, we need to immediately return to the turn that we missed, we need a russian future , this is a eurasian future, this does not mean russian, not dagestan, it means russian and dagestan. that's it, and then how do you they told it perfectly, they say about the people there, the russians infringed, abused other peoples, we just heard the story of an entire village, where so many people were officers, so many people were educated people, so many people represented the russian imperial elite, and if we had put bans

on that so that other peoples, not the russian people , can make a career for themselves, where do these military men come from, where do these - yes, where do these candidates come from, where do these scientists come from? this is in fact, this is the best example, the best example, that this is the meaning of eurasianism, this is why this is important preserve, and in the same way, that's what akim is doing, in fact , in the same way, despite the fact that we are now at war with this occupied, occupied zone of russian consciousness, which is ukraine, we should never treat them as absolutely enemies, so those people who say that if ah you insist on russian, on russian? kolyba, russian things, russian tradition, do you want to throw away our friends? no, actually, because sacred roots, when a person has a homeland, he understands the homeland of another, he understands both big and small homeland, he respects its traditions, this is the main idea , we need to turn urgently now, not into something artificial, into some kind

of ideology, we need to return to russian roots, to our people, who were so good at building a system of these sacred... .things are combined carefully, through exchange, through attention, and not through conquest and taking away , such a question to akim, we have now raised this topic of what you want to take with you into 2022 and the future, and it’s clear what everyone takes with them the future, but the most important thing is symbolically important, so warm, tender, i have this feeling that for you. language with me, she is for you, well, such a carrier of everything that we are talking about now, so you could now sing to us or read some lines in ukrainian, which are some of the most valuable for you, which

you’ve taken me into the future, but of course i can, i’m prepared , of course, there’s a wonderful folk song, it’s called something like “that hop that’s around the techins , oh that khmelnytsky that fights with the poles.” , oh, having gone to khmelnitsky like the golden ford, oh, not only the poles lie with their heads in the water, oh, the enemy poles fled in, they destroyed their fur coats, oh, not only the poles lay with their teeth hanging, the enemy poles, the peasants, or...... the plaques into dogs and the orphans into sheep, what is this wonderful folk song about, about the fact that bogdan khmelnitsky beats , here 4000, 4000 poles came to good birth, came to ukrainian land and were defeated, there is not a single, not a single

ukrainian folk song where they are fighting with the russians, you know why, because the ukrainians are russians, so they just need to talk about always remind you of this, thank you, great, great, well and the last question for you, actually the same one, yes, what will you take with you into the future, well, i brought it, i’ll give it to you, what it seems to me can be taken into the future, this is my book genesis and empire, my daughter’s book, eschatological optimism. eschatological optimism is dashin’s idea. you know that dasha died at the hands of ukrainian terrorists, but she loved ukraine very much. we have ukrainian roots, she researched them, listened to ukrainian folklore, just like she was an acquaintance, she really loved the music of akim opachev, this one eschatological optimism is her philosophical view, what does this mean, this is... in fact, her fate is like a prophecy, that is, eschatology is the end, this is the doctrine of the end, and eschatological optimism is knowing that a tragic

end will come, that in fact, in a sense, we, being finite people, are doomed to death, we must not give up, love our country, be faithful to our faith, our people, this is her will, and it seems to me that this is worth taking, and i would also, of course, think that her voice is important to take the year 2062, and she had musical projects, and we did something together with her, akim also knows her, her group and even wanted to sing her songs, maybe this will happen, akim and i also keep in touch, and i just want to say that there is such a song, and i gave it to you, if it works, let’s play it, behind the smile

i found myself, but it was a mistake, something follows this, or is this our last time, color materializes forms, the heart is not visible, work only without her, the eye grows dim, people do not live again, but for us christians, for us orthodox, death is the path to immortality, it is difficult. when it concerns you personally, especially with a child, it is very difficult to accept, but faith is higher than us, christ suffered, and what

is said about us, so our faith says that our dead are alive, they will be resurrected, they are alive in spirit in god, they will inherit the earth, because if a person fights to the end for his country, for his faith, for his people, he will definitely be a saint, thank you, i think that, well, we wanted to say that we are taking you to russia 2052, definitely, whatever you brought, that’s it, of course, and all the languages, all the things we take away will be with us in the future, thank you, the way truly different peoples, different cultures live, not without problems, but still maintaining their identity. my culture, my own uniqueness, i can say that this is a single space , united indeed by russian culture, because everyone

says, this is my country, this is the country of russia, it is simply amazing, simply amazing, i wanted to add one more thing, that it was not in vain that i remembered the quote that nations are the thoughts of god, i still remember the second quote from another of our favorite philosopher konstantin leontyev, about life as a blossoming complexity , so... when there are thoughts of god, there is a diversity of peoples and vice versa, it’s absolutely true that if people’s life, in all its diversity, disappears, then such a meaningless space is being created around us in the sense that the thoughts of god are disappearing, and for me personally, as a person, as if just an inhabitant of the planet, in such a future, in such a future in which meaninglessness reigns, nonsense, i don’t want to live, i want to live in the seething diversity of people’s lives, and

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