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[000:00:00;00] with our country today, as already noted, we are a very multinational, genetically diverse country, but we are united by one common culture, and this is how we see our research, this is how it was in these territories 3,000 years ago, that is, we continue certain things set by our distant ancestors, but traditions, and today there is every opportunity to expand paleognom research in our country, first of all, this is a unique body of anthropological material that we have accumulated, for example, a monument also on the territory of the krasnodar region, with its centuries-old history, extensive collections from the territory of siberia, the far east, they are still waiting for their researcher, but unfortunately, without government support, large-scale research in this area is extremely difficult due to the fact that the analysis of one ancient genome takes much more time and approximately is an order of magnitude more expensive than the research of one modern genome, which colleagues are doing, and unfortunately, this project of ours, which
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i spoke about, will end this year support and we would like to ask you to consider the possibility of supporting, perhaps even on a permanent basis , the further implementation of work in the field of paleognomy in our country, since we are convinced that this is precisely the area that will allow us to respond to a number of challenges, both external and internal , which our country is facing today, i completely agree with you, because indeed, there is so much stuff, all kinds of nonsense, you listen, so much nano-foundation... that has no basis, they carry some kind of, well, in general, here nonsense, this is, of course, serious research, it is in high demand so that, well , for the people of russia, this is very important, awareness
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of who we are, where we came from, yes. it means that these development trends, you just said about this, what happened 3,000 years ago , in fact, i know the current state, yes, it persists, this is the difference that remains, and the cultural traditional background is common, this very interesting, in this sense we can really talk about, we can say that russia is a unique civilization, this has a scientific basis. confirmed by the results of your work, this is very important, now let’s move on to simple pragmatic things, how much is needed? no, seriously, you were allocated funds, yes, but now it’s not over yet, well, this year the project is ending, and it’s supposed to be extended further, well, here’s a question probably for my colleagues, but the size the project was
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100 million a year, yeah, well, this is very interesting and very important, this is the study of ourselves, very important, i even i regret that i stayed too long in the office, i still listened to you, it’s interesting that the russian plain is a large space. from the baltic to the ural mountains and from the northern seas to the black sea, those are very extensive , yes, all this, all this is our history, very very interesting, very interesting, definitely, and about one more aspect of our research in more detail, if you allow, elizaveta , please, good evening, vladimir vladimirovich, in continuation of andrey’s speech, i would like to say that
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despite all... the achievements of paleognetics in russia, and he has already covered some of them today, and many do not know about the existence of such a direction, but i will give a personal example , this year i graduated from sirius university with a master's degree, but before entering here, i had a very vague idea about such science as paleo and archeogonetics, i heard that somewhere sometimes mammoth dna is being studied, somewhere the genomes of ancient people are being studied, but there was a feeling that a very limited circle of people were doing this only in foreign laboratories, however , in the process of studying i learned that in russia this direction is developed and that it gives a powerful evidence base for the development of historical sciences, and that even a student can participate in such work, for example, while working on my master's thesis, i
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conducted genetic research - the bone remains of representatives of the chernyakhov culture, which existed in vast territories of eastern europe, from romania to russia and in the second century ad, and during this study. data using mathematical methods, multiple theories about the supposed ancestors of this group were tested, and some of they were proven, so we established a genetic connection with the scyfarmatian tribes and a genetic connection with the grikoriblans, in addition, a genetic connection was established with some peoples of scandinavia, in particular with the vikings, who previously... were not considered by anyone as a related group to the chernyakhov culture. i would also like to note that a large number of volunteers are involved in the archaeological stage of these studies, but many of them
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may not realize that the bones they find during excavations may subsequently fall into the hands of geneticists for study, and at the same time, the correct exhumation and storage of these remains is very important to prevent contamination of ancient ancient dna, modern dna, and which can lead to difficulties in the analysis of genetic data, and therefore it seems necessary to inform the general public, in principle , about the existence of such a direction in russia as paleognetics and about its successes, and on the part of the participants of our consortium, events are already being carried out to popularize science, such as... paleo archeognetics, this includes speaking at scientific conferences, this includes giving lectures, this is media coverage, in sirius we often communicate with schoolchildren and students who
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come to educational modules, and we always see interest when we talk about the research that we we do, and when we show how we do it to our laboratory, our scientists. and we hope that with the support of paleo and archaeological research, we will continue to increase this interest, as in this area of science, and in history itself, which it influences, in particular in the interest in the history of our country, thank you for your attention, well, you know, i already said, this is really this... type of activity and yes, it’s really not enough who knows about this and is perceived as a sphere of activity for a select few people, narrow specialists, although this is precisely science at the intersection of science, genetics,
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archeology, as i understand it, there is anything here , art, even probably, yes, of course, it’s important to do popularization, we need the material, and this way we’ll advise our colleagues. and the media, which means that the ernst institute was mentioned here, we also have the current ernst, konstantin , this is the first channel, you can talk with the leaders of vgtrk, with oleg borisovich dobrodeev, well, with our other colleagues, from gazprom media, there they have a huge holding, there are also large private holdings, so we will definitely do it, just give us the material, let’s do it, who are you doing this, okay, that means we will definitely we’ll find a contact person there for you, who may even be from the administration , who will find it easier to connect you there with those who show interest, professional
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media, okay, thank you very much, thank you, that’s all, i’m also pavel alipov, associate professor russian state university for the humanities, i am a historian, that’s just it... colleagues in polygonetics naturally threw such a bridge to our humanities, the fact is that these are, of course, our common subjects, the interaction of peoples, the unity of peoples, the development of civilizations, these are the specifics of our science, not everyone understands this, that the fact is that there are historical calculations that can simply change the worldview of people, determine this worldview, the historical worldview, i am making such a preamble because in general i want tell you about some of these practical things. about our interaction with new territories, in particular with mariupol state university, the fact is that in general this interaction began in such a miraculous way,
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it was just a personal initiative at one time by our professor, galina gavrilovny ershova, she is a leading expert on mesoamerica, it would seem that there is nothing close to the donbass to these subjects, but that’s how her heart burned, she just sat down in october last year, went to mariupol, met people, saw who was working, how, just to see what was happening in life, and you know, the first thing she encountered was when she started communicating with colleagues, she tried to contact historians, but it turned out that the historian only left there one, because all the historians who worked before, they all simply moved, well, accordingly, to kiev , and why did they move, because for decades they built a completely different picture of the world, precisely explaining that we are completely different peoples, that we are nothing doesn’t connect, well, it’s clear, all these things that are constantly being said, but the situation was stalemate
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, send them, now... there’s a new academic year ahead, but how to teach students, historians, because all the textbooks, all the manuals are absolutely, well impossible to teach these these guys, because the picture of the world is completely different, this is where the university got involved, because we are a humanities university - it’s a matter of honor, we collected textbooks, the russian state humanities university... for us, history is the main specialty, here we started collecting textbooks, manuals , at the same time, teachers and staff members personally donated money to the electrical equipment, and then i appeared in this story , because garilovna called and said, pasha, you’re going with this load, i went, it was the end of january last year, of course, we were only able to meet with the leadership of the rector, vice-rectors, so to speak, why, because the university was simply still destroyed at that time, so i just...' the picture was such that, well, there were holes in these walls,
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no heating, and several offices , in which there were no these holes, they locked themselves, turned on the heater like that, the rector worked with projectors, of course , we didn’t see the students then, because they were all transferred online, and - then the idea arose, well, that’s not enough, yes, here they took it, they provided us with this literature, by the way, it was very useful, they thanked us, indeed the educational process was normalized thanks to these books, but i say, where are the students, we need to meet with them, and then we began to plan a new step, we need to make some kind of round table , well, so that we can live, so that our guys can meet with the guys from mariupol, here i’ll tell you, there were just a few very important things for me personally, because i voiced this question when we started planning, it was in my heart i’m a little scared, will i be able to persuade my guys to go there, and accordingly, how will we be received?
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those guys, that’s what’s surprising, when we started, at first we planned in april, but there, so to speak, for security reasons we had to postpone it, in the end we were able to carry out this second trip in august, already with our students and the ministry, so to speak, oriented us , well, there were two people there, because there was no need for a large group yet, and it turned out to be a competition, just a competition, in the end i took a girl with me, sorry for the sexism, i generally i didn’t expect that... bolder and then this girl says to me: you know, pavel andreevich , if there’s not enough space, i’ll just ride on the floor in a car or on a bus, she shocked me, this girl, i naturally wrote her down then , but then the situation developed more interestingly, a few days later i left the office, went up to the elevator , was about to go home, a guy was blocking my way, our boy, a student, and he said what is this, why is this girl... coming, i actually an excellent student,
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i take part in all events, so you took the girl, but you didn’t take it, i have to sit here, then i realized that there was a request from our guys to go there, well, when we were already in mariupol, we met with those guys, it turned out that it was an absolutely normal interested conversation, that is, they want to meet, they want communicate, and most importantly , there is already a different infrastructure, by the month of august, in these well, six months, probably not even less, what is it, well, six months, but there, simply and most importantly, the university campus is already being revived, the building has already been put into operation, why am i all this for you i’m telling you because here you can of course have a lot of these pictures of sketches, that it seems to me that this potential is needed, which is already being developed and you can see the desire to communicate, interact, work, we must not lose it, and i would ask you, vladimir vladimirovich, some then such an order should be given so that there would be an opportunity for such a large annual
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conference in the future, well, i won’t say congress, although it was such a dream, to lay down such a humanitarian, maybe not only not purely historical, there would be international specialists and political scientists, and besides historians, because it is the humanitarian component that is now important, the worldview, so that we can carry out this and attract more foreign researchers, we have many friendly countries, we also talk about this, that we, well, the west has fallen off there for some time, but then, so to speak, they will come and ask themselves, yes , but we have latin america, we have the same serbia, well , i won’t say so, i won’t list who could be invited, but only it should be so powerful. within the framework of this conference well, in general, there was such a dream, to create a school for young, young humanities scholars, historians, i don’t know who, because this idea was given to me by the rector of the university of mariupol, larisa anatelna sevalap, she and i stood on the seashore, just a romantic story, the sea of azov,
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august, summer, she stands there, shows us that people are already swimming here , everything is fine, she says, look, we could do everything humanely, at this rate the city is recovering. there are high chances that there will be these sanatoriums zones restored, it would be quite possible to remove some kind of building and let the guys combine business with pleasure , after all, this is the potential of the city, so i started talking, i’ll finish now, well, if this whole complex was implemented like this, it would not only be in science shot, as they say, but this would be such a major, bright event for the city and for the entire donbass , which would allow the city to develop the infrastructure, because people come to such an event, all this, so to speak, will entail and what something so economical things, vladimirovich, if you support it, it would be very cool, mr. andrevich, i think that this is very important, especially since these pseudo-historians, whom you said, have been brainwashing people there for decades, and it is very
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important that, on the basis of true , real, serious research, people had a clear idea of who we are, what we are, who, and what this is, part of ours, our community, such an ethnic, cultural, linguistic, so that we all have a clear, clear, based on scientific knowledge, ideas about this community of the russian world, it is extremely important, consider that we have agreed, this is not, this is not the kind of research that requires a large laboratory base, here the tongue is closed and the workplace is cleaned, yes, the main thing is that , the main thing is that the head is in place , you see, this is an advantage of the humanities, by the way, yes
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, i know, i’m a humanist myself, so i say this, confidently, in this sense, it’s kind of inexpensive, but in a material sense, in a monetary sense, but means a lot, consider that we have agreed, dear vladimir vladimirovich, shapiy ivanovna, transbaikal state university, chairman of the council of young scientific students, first of all, i would like to thank you for your attention and support of our university, and thanks to the far eastern track of the program, the federal program priority 2030, we managed to involve more than thirty young researchers in our laboratories and today guys, excuse me, excuse me, lest i forget, but when you organize this, yes, be sure to take advantage of the research results of those who are here, yes, yes, yes, this really matters, it will simply
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support you at every step, even if something does not coincide with ours, it doesn’t matter, it’s important that it be honest and transparent, practical the benefits of science, here at our zuboika state university, as part of the program, we have involved more than thirty young researchers in our laboratory, today the guys are working on import substitution projects together with enterprises of the region, and this is such a powerful opportunity and support for young researchers, and today for them a number of scientific educational programs have been created, launched, including the guys working on a project to create a world-class campus in a chat on your behalf, and my research is related to the study of staffing, the field of science and innovation, related
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to the study of the system of motivating youth into science, because i believe, and my research confirms this, today this is a critically... important area, we really need to increase the personnel reserve in the field of science and certainly restore prestige and status scientist in society, today this task stands within the framework of the decade of science and technology, and within the framework of national projects, and of course, this is a key task for every scientific educational organization in our country, and today in russia ... in my opinion, unprecedented support measures have been created for young people, and for their research, graduate students throughout the country, thousands of students, greeted with gratitude, with great gratitude your decree, which you already spoke about today, about
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scholarships for graduate students, this is in fact, found a great response in the youth community, and i would probably like to thank you separately for this on behalf of the entire community , thank you very much, and today graduate students will not worry about such material issues, they will be able... to devote more time to science, i myself already i’m far from a graduate student, but i’m very happy for my guys, for future graduate students, that is, those students who today will look towards science as a professional at such a point of development, and of course, this is one of the cool opportunities for modern youth, and today i would like to share the experience of another such additional ... opportunity for youth engaged in science and research, which was created today
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on the initiative of the coordinating council for youth affairs, for schoolchildren, for students, graduate students and young scientists, of course, i i’m talking about the mendeleiev map, and this is a project that was supported by the ministry of science and higher education and relevant departments, the state duma, and found a response from more than thirty business partners, and the mindeleev map is so big a loyalty program for young people, which allows them to receive various bonuses and is a direct measure of support , today, the periodic card is also, you know, an important tool for forming a community of young scientists, and indeed, thanks to this kind of support,
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we can meet more often, communicate more often, and share opinions, and create such mutual projects, including here and today, and it seems to me that along with those already established positive trends in the development of this project, and it deserves attention: at the federal level and could receive such support, and from government agencies , in particular museums, theaters, uh, sanatoriums, this is actually in great demand among young scientists, i communicate with colleagues, including on the subject of this project , i receive exactly this kind of response, but it would be great if such a measure of support also became available from government organizations. therefore, we would ask you to support the project in this
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part, thank you, can you clarify, it is a periodic map, it provides certain benefits, a source, what kind of source is there, these are partners, today, these are partners, these are various discounts , let’s say, i understand, yes, well, these are specific partners for various things, yes, it was grown by rosatom, but it’s clear, but museums and theaters what does it have to do with it? i don’t understand, but this is such a social measure to support young scientists, which, that is, the meddeley card is not only about discounts on air or flights, or is it also an additional event from our partners, it would be great if a young scientist could... well, let's put it this way, receive some preferences precisely for our status, specifically for our work as a scientist, that is , such a separate area, a separate
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status, once again, this would give us the opportunity to emphasize the special role of science, once again demonstrate to schoolchildren, and to society as a whole, the idea that it is still possible to develop in science today, the state sees young scientists and actively supports their start in science and receives such support, well, when they said about museums, theaters, well, there are exhibition halls, probably, yes, yes, of course, then i immediately i remembered about another form of support for young guys, this is pushkin’s map, yes, well, apparently you meant that too, look, there’s just this mendeleev’s map and pushkin.
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card, they operate on different principles, yes, well, yes, if the medeleev card is based on the fact that preferences are provided, which means by companies, some, some, then the pushkin card, this source of funding is the budget, and the money goes to young people who can visit the same museums, theaters and so on, and this they support the theaters themselves, the museums themselves, the exhibition spaces themselves, and so on, but it is the budget that allocates the funds, in this case, you said. card - these are partners, well, large companies, for them these are additional expenses , yes, well, well, this is not budget money, it is necessary, of course, we can and definitely, we will do it, we will talk with those who finance this work within the framework of the vidlensky map, but as for the social part, well, and just an expansion, let’s say, yes, of the actions of this
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medilovsky map, then it is necessary that the government is still... working on whether support from the federal budget is possible from when on, now the budget has almost been adopted, so making additional changes related to expenses will probably not be easy, but the idea itself is still good, let’s think about how implement it, good idea, thank you, we are ready to get involved in thinking about the mechanisms, well, the mechanism is simple, we need money on the table, i sat down to say, give me the money. he will now cry that there is no money, that’s it, but the idea doesn’t matter, young scientists need to be found, that’s it i’ll tell you that, thank you, that’s right, i agree, yes, we’ll definitely enslave, it’s a good idea, i don’t think it’ll cost that much, what’s the age there, the scientists, probably the students there need it, well, first of all, the students have
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the right to the opportunity to use, and pushkin, and are actively using it, the card is designed primarily, that’s why i’m talking about the status of such a feature of young scientists, the mendeleev card is designed primarily for prize-winners of olympiads and professional competitions from among schoolchildren, students, all graduate students and young scientists under 35 years old, yeah, that is, we need to look at which of them falls under the pushkin card, who does not, then develop a mechanism for this category, it is a small category. came up with, from how you and i came up with it, until the bureaucracy implements all this there, a lot of time passes, we will try to speed it up, andrei aleksandrovich, only our society still complained about the bureaucracy, although the bureaucrat himself is certainly good idea, thank you very much, let’s finish, no, dear vladimir
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vladimirovich, but kirrill of the old people, geoscan company. and a postgraduate student at st. petersburg state university. and now in russia there is an active program for launching school nanosatellites of the cubesat format. under this program, in twenty years in 2022 , more satellites were launched than under the educational programs of other countries over the same period. more than 30 devices are actively working and performing tasks. research, applied and of course educational. within the program a complete set of domestic technologies has been formed that are necessary for launching nanosatellites into space, this is a number of satellite platforms from russian private companies, and containers for launch on a carrier rocket, these are cameras both in the budget segment and for submitting high-resolution remote sensing data, engines,
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various scientific payloads. this project has the potential to expand, both in increasing the capacity of data from satellites, and in the coverage of the program, increasing the number of schoolchildren, and also creating more opportunities for young scientists to participate in real scientific projects and process real data from such nanosatellites, and we will work on this, develop this project, and also while working with current satellites, the task arose of receiving data from these devices and developing the ground segment, here is a project for a network of open ground-based research complexes, the leader of which i am, recognized to solve this
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