now we hear that children are singing the palestinian anthem, is this not because we have arrived now? this week we are doing a project that is related to the theme of the homeland, so in the morning we sing palestinian songs, it is important that the children know them and understand their cultural background. songs study the colors of the flag, they learned the song: i really saw you, my flag, the guys bring from home something related to national traditions, and we study it together, our children are used to it, when guests come, we can and should show them our talents i know they are love very much, عم نحطها، بنحط الخريطه. below

we have a puzzle, a map of palestine, we divide into groups and collect puzzles, then combine them into one large map, and children really like this activity, each child shows on the map what part of the country he is from, what city, village in palestine, the children and i are discussing that we have the right to our land to return to our home, we also have an activity called the key, we give the key: we explain to the children that these keys are from our houses in palestine, and this is a symbol our return home. what kind of future do i want for these children? we always return to the words of hasan kanafani; our kindergarten is named after him.

we don’t have playgrounds, children grow up on the streets, but here is a special world for them, it ’s warm, bright, safe, i do everything to preserve this important atmosphere, i wish these children to live in a world better than it is now, and preferably in your home country. that day, the streets of beirut, even at rush hour, were amazingly deserted, the entire city stood still in anxious anticipation of the speech of the leader of hezbol, hassan nasralah, it’s somehow very interesting, the warming up of society, on the eve of this speech, everyone was inclined to different,

let’s say, guesses about what this speech would contain, what instructions would be given or what would be, uh, voiced. plans and many journalists, many serious analysts were inclined to believe that there would almost be a declaration of war, everyone suddenly realized that it seems to me that it calmed the population more, there was no direct declaration of war, there were no absolutely terrible heavenly punishments on the opposite heads sides, but nevertheless there were clearly marked, let’s say, hut positions, which they will not stand for and will , say, resist in certain cases, well, first of all, as i said, this is further destruction, total destruction , the gas sector and with its entire

civilian population. while all these actions that hezbollah and the israeli defense forces are now carrying out, they are of such a deterrent nature, restraining in order to show the whole world, in all likelihood, that both there and there are forces for resistance, there are forces to cause certain damage to each other. today, according to the fact that khazbala is publishing, more than 60 people, among, say, military personnel, khazbala, have died

as a result of these clashes with the israeli army, unfortunately, there are also civilians on the lebanese side, this is the last case when again a car was hit, where a family, a woman and three children died, that is, this is certainly a loss that, unfortunately, can become just that, a transitional period to greater escalation, given that the country is multi-religious, how would lebanon be in this conflict? well, here again, if we are talking exclusively about lebanon, then yes, the country is multi-religious, and this is recorded, in particular in their constitution, in their laws on

local settlement, political, and otherwise, of course, everyone always has a view on any conflict different, there are corresponding forces that support hezbala believe that it has the right to self-defense, in particular against the invasion of israeli troops into lebanese territory. there are strengths who are categorically against and do not accept such, similar scenarios, in order to avoid any destruction of harm - to lebanon itself. if we talk about lebanese society in general, say, about the lebanese cross-section of society, then the majority of the population is on the side of the palestinians, because they believe that the lack of settlement, this long fate, to be occupied

by the people, is very strongly reflected not only on the palestinians themselves, but on the surrounding country. wali jumwlad, former chairman of the progressive socialist party of lebanon, leader of the druze mountain community. he views hezbollah's actions on the southern border of lebanon as an attempt to reduce the tense situation in gaza. he stated that this lesson had already been learned and that he did not want to prolong the combat zone. israel has already done this, so it is possible that the entire lebanese territory will be involved in the war. of course, there are people, parties who do not want war, but unfortunately, what is happening now in gaza does not give lebanon a choice, since it affects its borders too, no one wants war, but if everything goes

continue in the same way, we will be forced to join in helping the southern part of the population to protect against enemies. they have lived in austria, in france, now he's very very photogenic. the former head of the austrian foreign ministry, karin kneisel, moved from lebanon to russia a year ago, and now heads the geopolitical observatory on key problems of russia, st. petersburg state university. we are now in your office in st. petersburg, and what do we see? the russian flag is on your table, this is not surprising, and flag of lebanon. these two flags together, what are they for? when i left the european union in the spring

of 2022, i couldn’t come to russia, but i had the opportunity to go to lebanon. i am very glad and grateful that i spent some time in lebanon; i immediately understood that i would not be able to live there for the remaining years. i am grateful to the lebanese themselves for the reception. recently i went to armenia for a conference, there at the opening “they were selling flags and they offered me to buy a flag of the european union, i then said that it would be better for me to take the flag of russia and lebanon, because it is with these countries that i am cooperated, and thanks to them she was able to survive. an expert analyst, including on the topic of the middle east, karin kneisel often refers to the history of the israeli-palestinian conflict in her open lectures. now it's taking shape. the impression is that many leaders, especially in the european union, believe that everything began on october 7th. yes, the armed

forces of hamas, terrorists, as they are also called, from the point of view of the palestinians, fighters for peace, carried out massive bloodshed, but this conflict is very, very old, i am rather inclined to call it a tragedy, for for me, this is much more than a conflict, this is a serious human tragedy, the conflict is different from previous ones, i would say, it has literally degenerated into a struggle for survival between palestine and israel as a whole, we are not just talking about the palestinians, not only about the independence of the palestinian territories, as this appears in various resolutions, everything is much larger. we were in beirut

on the same day that hassan shit was speaking, how would you interpret his words, how can you generally describe the role of lebanon at this stage of the israeli-palestinian conflict? do you think that the boundaries of the conflict could expand and spread not only to the southern territories of lebanon, but to the entire country? hassan is a very charismatic leader, he is popular not only in lebanon, where he received the greatest support in early 2000, when hezbollah, so to speak, expelled the israelis from the southern regions of lebanon. the struggle of the shiites of hezbollah and what is happening in israel, the relationship is interesting, i would even say, symbiotic, i also heard his speech, you can say that his speech is

the event of the year, more important than christmas, all this they expected that in the end there wasn’t much, it’s just a speech, several weeks have passed since then, it seems to me that various actors in the region and beyond have approached hasan nosrali with a request to maintain control over the situation. i don’t think that hezbollah will actively interfere, at the moment they are demonstrating their arsenal, various types of missiles that they have at their disposal, and this in itself can be perceived as intimidation, from the israeli side, we hear ruthless statements, for example, from the minister defense of israel, a few days ago he said: “with beirut we can do the same as with gaza, that is, raze the city to the ground, drop bombs. nobody in the world

reacted particularly, only france was a little worried, where is germany, where is everyone else, why are they silent? based on my logic, but from what i have seen over all these years, i can say, unless i am completely mistaken, a second front will not open for israel, i don’t think it will will come in, this is also due to the fact that over all these years hezbollah became a truly lebanese movement. they have their own income, their circles of influence, they want to keep it all, risk it all for the sake of the palestinian brothers, in a sense i don’t believe in this, we are coming to a rather sad conclusion, and it seems to me that i’m right here, palestinians will be ignored again , not for the first time in history,

they pay a huge price, simply terrible, there is incredible bloodshed, cruelty is happening. the tragedy in sabra and shatila, palestinian refugee camps located in western beirut, which occurred in 1982 year, are still mourned by lebanese palestinians. then the militants of the kataib party, representing the interests of the lebanese marant christians, carried out an operation there to search for the destruction of palestinian militants. during the massacre there was. the sabra and shatili massacre in 1982 was definitely the worst massacre on lebanese soil. in the minds of the lebanese and palestinians, it still remains a terrible tragic event. but lately

there have been a lot of clashes. voin-hilva and other camps. probably different groups of palestinians are in conflict. but in the camps it was always self management. the lebanese authorities did not enter the camps; they represented the freedom of the un and various groups of palestinians. and if they kill each other, as they did in the 1980s, so be it. so the lebanese authorities do not interfere with what happens inside the camps. several generations of palestinian refugees live in lebanon without rights or opportunities. you were in these camps, you saw everything with your own eyes. don't you think that the lebanese authorities could have done more to ensure that these people lived with dignity, they survived without electricity and clean water? yes,

the lebanese, like the palestinians, in 1948, in 1967, thought that this was a temporary situation, that refugees came for a short time and would leave in a few weeks, no one expected that they would stay for a decade. this doesn't justify them, but it explains them. situation. second point: at a very early stage, the un took over this matter, so to speak, took over everything. and the lebanese authorities did not consider that they were responsible for this; they said that the un was providing for the people. but i must say that in a sense, a number of ngos, humanitarian organizations, began to do this is the business. many people tried to make money

from someone else's misfortune. for some it was a source of income, and for others it was a group of people. which could be used for certain political purposes. the situation in the camps is tense, and i do not want to downplay or minimize the scale of the disaster. in lebanon , over the past 7-9 years, there has been a general decline in the standard of living of the population. i have been traveling to lebanon regularly for 30 years. i saw lebanon in the 80s and nineties. lebanon today. i lived there for a year and a half. here is the district's intelligentsia, here is the district where the poor live population and all this is combined in one small city, so beirut always evokes very conflicting feelings, on the one hand

you feel sorry for the people, on the other hand you are surprised how it is luxury and poverty, right side by side. vostokovveta is half syrian, she moved to lebanon 7 years ago following her husband, she is now expecting her second child, if not for her academic knowledge about the historical and ethnographic features of the region, she could be very worried about the future of her family. in general, the middle east is a volcano, who is sleeping, but can at any moment. children, you have a family, but you live in this, it’s alarming, especially when you have one, you understand that it would happen sooner or later, it’s quite possible it will happen again,

even if everything is fine now and it’s unknown at what level, when you come to this inner peace, and rationalization, some kind of ability to analyze the situation, then it’s easier for you to live here. the question that worries everyone now is how lebanon, which has not yet coped with the consequences... of the economic crisis stand out if the boundaries of the conflict nevertheless expand significantly. in 2019 there was a revolution, thaura, as they call it here, when people took to the streets to protest against the government, then covid happened, then on august 4, 2020 there was an explosion in the port, a major one, as a result of which more than 300,000 people were left homeless, without roof over your head. against the backdrop of all this

, an economic crisis arose, the beginnings of which were already there earlier and starting in 2011, when the arab spring took place throughout the arab world, but then it turned into a full-scale crisis, in the summer of 2021, 2 years ago, it was probably ... the very peak of the crisis, because government-owned electricity practically stopped being provided, floating stations sailed away from turkey, we had interruptions before state electricity, but this can all be solved, 6 hours of state electricity, 6 hours, for example, private electricity, yes, people could stand in line for 7 hours to fill up with gasoline, why? the fact is that in lebanon the crisis continues, it’s not that it has gotten better or been resolved, but lebanon they have one especially. they adapt to everything, but if a full-scale war breaks out, well, lebanon is not ready for this, and

moreover, lebanon is not unanimous in its opinion, the reason is that lebanon is a very small country, here... 18 religious confessions, the entire politics of lebanon is based on a confessional basis, it is called confessionalism, when the president is only a maronite, a christian is a moronite, the prime minister is a sunni, the speaker of the parliament is shiite. and each confession has its own views, for example, some christians, yes, in particular, does not consider themselves arabs, they do not consider themselves part of the arab world, and the other part... supports the arabs, it supports the palestinians, it supports their right to their own state, against this background, of course, there is a very big split in society, but

not even in society, among politicians, the attitude of ordinary lebanese towards the problem of palestinian refugees is equally heterogeneous, it all depends on the person from what community he is, because if he is from a community of supporting palestinians, then he always has this factor of sympathy, that people were left without their lands, they live... in camps, but in general everyone understands that the presence of refugees in such numbers in a country, in a small one, where there is already a crisis, is not good for anyone, but if the syrians have where to return, then the palestinians have nowhere to go, because their lands , yes, are no longer their territories, this is already a different state, this is also like echoes of the civil war, someone supported the palestinians and their resistance, someone believed that this is not our history , we don't need it here, it should be somewhere in friend. turn right, straight

, be careful not to touch the wires here, one more turn, and we are at the final point of the labyrinthine streets of the shatila camp, exactly the same route that we children, often unaccompanied by adults, go to classes at the palestinian cultural center . this is not just dance for the sake of dancing, it is our connection with our homeland.

this is one of the most important traditions of the country, it is very characteristic, expressive, bright, by dancing it, we show how much we love palestine, how much we miss it, it’s the least we can do for palestine if we don’t were in palestine, this does not mean that we abandon our traditions, we adapt here, we continue to live in our cultural traditions, develop them here. yes, we did not live in palestine, but this does not break our connection with it, we would still really like to return, especially what

is happening. now awakens an even greater desire, what is success for a palestinian living in lebanon? a successful palestinian brings great pride, first of all, because we live a different life, a life refugees, we have our own criteria, for me personally , success is preserving your roots, your beginning, not forgetting about your homeland. of course, the hopeless conditions in which people live have made many think that perhaps life in lebanon is not the best the best option, you know what i'm talking about, previously it was believed that staying in the camp was the closest way to home, now some people are thinking about life

outside of lebanon. will bring us closer to the possibility of returning to palestine, i lived in europe for 30 years, traveled a lot, now i i returned to the camp because you know, i miss my roots, real life, mutual understanding between people , my people live here, people understand each other here, human relationships are felt here, there is no such thing in europe, no. there is a lot of propaganda, for example, everyone thinks that if i am a palestinian, then i am a terrorist, i had to make a choice, a choice between convenience, the comfort that europe offers with its happiness, i chose happiness, yes, there is no electricity here, secondly, water comes into the tap from the sea, it is salty, it is necessary here have water reserves for different needs.

it’s also very dangerous to touch the walls, because an electric current passes there and you can get hit, and when it starts to rain, all the buildings here are not very well built, so a stone can easily fall on your head, at night you can see hundreds of rats running through the streets, hundreds of rats, you know, when people fall asleep. rats wake up, if you go somewhere at night, then you literally go with them, so you describe all the problems that

the locals face, the rats, all these difficulties, did you still decide to return? i was born here, i grew up here, i fought here , i was a soldier, i fought, i lived side by side with these people, here i feel close to them, here i feel happier, because here i understand people, and people understand me, we have a lot in common.