eva mikhailovna merkacheva, the next speaker, columnist for the moscow komsomolets newspaper. good evening, you have already mentioned the topic here - detention and the fight against torture. i would like to start now by expanding on these two topics and offering some solutions to the problem. but in fact, as far as imprisonment is concerned, about 13 regions of our country now have an excessive number of people behind bars. we're talking about the pre-trial detention center. the supreme court, in execution... of your instructions, has prepared a bill on a ban on taking into custody people suspected of non-violent crimes, and i would like to ask you to support it and i would like this ban to apply not only to pregnant women, women with young children, but to everyone, absolutely everyone, and at least a third of prisoners could wait until the end of investigations under signature or bail, by the way, we don’t use bail at all, although the law is provided for, and this is nonsense, teachers are calling each other, here we are talking about the shortage of teachers, but after all... teachers, including

on charges of economic crimes , and these people are accused, as i already said, of crimes that are in no way connected with violence, and they do not represent any burden to society, and if they were left at home, they could be from families, continue work , continue to be useful, instead they sit in cells, in concrete bags, for five years at a time, by the way, here we need to give a comparative analysis, during the years of the ussr, we even had the investigation itself... a complex case sometimes took place within 2- 3 months, and legal decisions were made in a few days, how come it is that our investigations now take a very long time, even in the simplest cases, and then the court can consider the case for an infinitely long time, this is probably a question that would be worth analyzing, what i’m talking about i ask you, and despite the fact that i note that in the soviet years there were no telephone billings, there were no cctv cameras, but somehow they could investigate quickly and not keep people in pre-trial detention, and as for torture, it is accepted for ...which tightens

responsibility for torture , thank you very much for this, but many victims of torture are now afraid to talk about them publicly, even if they are resolved, criminal cases are initiated against the perpetrators in rare cases, and the victims themselves are subject to repression and therefore refuse their testimony, and we in ours while calm andrei vladimovich babushkin received a lot, they were actually tortured, in the end they all ended up in the same colonies or pre-trial detention centers that they complained about, that is, they were in the hands and are still in the hands of those who tortured, and of course, many of them have already refused this testimony, even when cases come to court, they refuse at this stage, and the investigation by the torture department is proceeding extremely sluggishly, this is due to the fact that their investigative committees are conducted by regional ones, and they are not interested, and moreover, i can say that the investigative committees in the regions interact with the staff of the colonies, their work is organized, so they are in. well, what can i say, very often this is the story when the investigator, the prosecutor of the region... and there

the chief jailer, they are very close friends , they are friends with their families, so i repeat, such investigations do not end in anything, there are two simple solutions that could stop torture, here are two simple ones, i am asking for them, the first is that the person who complained about the torturers be investigated not at the local, regional level, in the central office of the skr. i think it would be possible to create a similar unit; they would go out to investigate. the next topic i would like to raise is huge... sentences, and in general, the number of punishments not related to imprisonment is growing , and this is wonderful, but against this background, the terms for those who are still sentenced to real imprisonment have increased, i am now talking about non-violent crimes, 3 years for crimes, as a result in which no one was hurt, there were no casualties and no one died. article two of the criminal code puts in first place the task of protecting human rights and freedoms, and then property, public order and so on, but today and for... rape and murder with special

cruelty, people get two to three times less than for some economic crime, this is a phenomenon, in fact, i ’ll still give an example, and colleagues of the speakers, allegedly they asked money from one banker in a telegram channel, for then , in order to put a block on negative information , the prosecutor asked for 14 years, 14 years for the girl journalist, in my opinion the injured banker himself was shocked by this, because at the trial he asked no, no, he says, be patient, she should go to to sentence real imprisonment, the court ultimately sentenced not to fourteen, but by five, but this is a colossally long time, a girl with diabetes mellitus was sent to prison for 5 years, but she is still sitting in a pre-trial detention center, and apparently she will go to a colony for 5 years, and i note that in general, in our country the average sentence for murder is 6-8 years, and huge sentences for non-violent crimes are a phenomenon that appeared precisely in recent years, and it seems as if our life expectancy has increased... but this did not happen,

so why these people who ask are guided by, i repeat, these are the deadlines, article 43 the criminal code of the russian federation states that punishment is intended to restore social justice, as well as to correct the convicted person and prevent the commission of new crimes. so , long sentences do not have any corrective function, but it has been proven that after 5 years in prison, irreversible mental consequences occur, and then it is very difficult to integrate a person into society. i ask you to give instructions to review criminal policy in the field of punishment for non-violent crimes like this huge deadlines. and i will move on from this topic. to those convicted under article 228 of the people - these are drugs for young people, so they are sentenced, as an example, on average, i calculated, terms from 8 to 18 years, we have about 100,000 of these people, in some colonies, the number of boys and girls under article 228 already reaches 80%. experts

predict a sharp increase in the prison population in the long term precisely because of the colossal sentences that are given today under article 228. drugs are terrible, no one... long terms and part of today's state in the fight against drug addiction, but let me say that it does not work, the authors of this concept, apparently, were guided by american practice, in the usa, in the eighties, during the drug epidemic, they began to sentence people for placing them, they even began to ships to house prisoners. vladimir vladimirovich, it is possible and necessary to fight the drug epidemic in other ways, i ask for a review of the policy in the fight against drug addiction and, within its framework , to ban, for example, dubious advertising. in order to earn big money, creating social videos, punishment for drug addiction , attract real drug dealers, and not the so-called pawnbrokers, who are the lowest link in this entire chain, but to reduce, in general, i ask you to instruct us to develop a system for preventing crimes

among young people in general, now there is essentially none, law enforcement officers are in in confidential conversations they admit that they are required to show indicators, and this is the main problem, that is, if they prevented a crime... they talked to the young man, but released him, for this nothing will happen to them, but if they, even if he’s standing on the edge of the pit, they still did something to push him there, and maybe provoke him somewhere, for this they will have rewards and everything else, so this is the main problem, i would like our indicator to be crime prevention, let law enforcement officers receive awards and thanks for it, and not vice versa, as now, the next thing we have... today artificial intelligence has begun to be used in investigation of crimes, especially past years, which leads to to the present tragedies, a few of us , let me say, can remember where they were 20-25 years ago, for example, i cannot remember, and

it is impossible, simply impossible, to prove that they were there at that moment, even if they remembered, but even those who may find themselves helpless in front of artificial intelligence, and as an example of this, i will also specifically cite the scientist tsvetkov, and the artificial intelligence revealed that the sketch of the woman killer compiled in 2003, that is, 20 years ago, is 55% identical to him, he has everything was documented precisely because he is a scientific hydrologist, with him in those days when the murders were committed in moscow were professors, doctors of science, including the director of the institute of the russian academy of sciences, they are surprised, they say, how can the investigation not believe us, we say , here we show photographs, that we show the results of laboratory research there, we testify that he was with us... many kilometers away, but the investigation has kept the scientist in pre-trial detention for almost a year, all that they have, it seemed to show, in general in these crimes of past years, big the danger is when people who are serving life sentences or in special regime colonies remember these crimes, they have nothing to lose, they are ready to give any testimony, and people suffer from this,

because it is possible that there is falsification, i would ask you to give an order to the prosecutor's office and the supreme court to study the practice of using artificial intelligence in conjunction with the testimony of people... in prison during the investigation of crimes of past years, next year is our year of family, a lot it is said that it is necessary to support a woman’s desire to give birth, but if a prisoner gives birth, then she is returned from the hospital to the pre-trial detention center after 2 hours, we had such precedents, just recently it happened in moscow, a woman gave birth, after 2 hours she was sent to the pre-trial detention center , she was unable to recover, the child was left in the hospital, she did not see him for many, many days, in general , what happens is that the little man, he generally... does not communicate with his mother for the first important, not only hours, but also days, in the colonies, what happens if a woman is there with a child, the child is sick, the child is taken and taken to the hospital, where he can be there for a month or more, because he is being treated, the mother is not put with him, all because

there is no escort, and without an escort they refuse these women, that is it turns out that society, thus society and states, punish these unfortunate children, but of course, i cannot disagree with you, i see it that very often, unfortunately, this time - being in custody, it is too long , it is generally unacceptable, and of course, we... cannot assume that all the issues here have been resolved, regarding, yes, well , you have this - an accusatory bias, you said, the main jailer, he is often friends with families, with the prosecutor, and so on, what does a jailer mean, chief jailer, but, but of course, you are probably right in that it would be desirable, you just need to look, think through, after all, issues related to material support, such issues could be transferred to the top, especially with regard to torture, i

now this is what i mean, convey these investigations, i repeat, are a complex thing, so here you need to be very careful about these processes, is it possible to immediately transfer to other correctional institutions, well, i’m just not ready to answer right now, it would probably be better if everything happened this way, in any case, it’s definitely possible to think about this, but it’s definitely absolutely necessary to think about how to transfer the consideration of cases of this kind, higher, to another level, now, about, uh, about, uh, redundant, excessive, cruel treatment of people, who have not committed a crime , crimes related to the life, health

of other people, as a rule, this is a crime, a violation of the law in the field of economic activity, the punishment is too harsh, you said, now i will start, and then i will finish my reaction to this part what you said, you know, in some countries it is no coincidence that, say, for tax crimes and or for violation of rules in the field of anti-cartel activities , such penalties are provided that it would seem too, too strict, too even cruel, but this is a conscious position of the state of the legislator, because the legislator reacts to those manifestations that the legislator considers most... from the point of view of the interests of the state in certain periods of its development, causing

damage to the state, say in the economic sphere, well, let's say, in the field antimonopoly activities, cartel agreements or tax crimes, the legislator can be considered very crimes of great public importance, because it causes significant damage to a large circle of persons or state. in general, and nevertheless, and nevertheless, i think that you are right, here are the examples that you gave, of course, they don’t really fit into the head, uh, when there are certain actions that clearly violate, of course , the law, but nevertheless, the terms there are 7-10 years, this is, well, in my opinion, as a citizen of the russian federation, these are of course such controversial things, let’s say, so carefully, controversial, let’s look at it all together, let’s see once, let's turn to

the state duma, the government and the public all together, well, the supreme court, prosecutor's office, we will all think together about what and how needs to be done here in order to improve legislation and law enforcement - practice, which means now regarding drugs, this is also a delicate issue, i think that you will agree with me, yes, i know that our so-called prison population is probably now largely formed by those who violate the law in the area of ​​illicit drug trafficking, so is it necessary to liberalize something here, we definitely need to improve something, if you and i now asked parents

who have lost their children due to drug abuse, they would say that you and i want to lower the bar of responsibility for those whom they consider to be to blame for the death of their children, then they would probably ask us were not praised, and nevertheless, we need to carefully look at what is happening in this... area, carefully analyze where tougher punishment leads to a decrease in crime, and where it is prohibitive and... fulfills its functions, well, we need to analyze , carefully with specialists, but if you think that this requires attention from the state, we will do so, artificial intelligence is a complex topic, the field of big data, it works very, very effectively,

in many areas, if there are any failures, it is necessary analyze them and draw appropriate conclusions, but as for women in prison , the examples you gave are so convincing and i think that it is necessary to prepare and make appropriate decisions, including on amnesty for certain categories of women , who are... imprisoned, for example, vladimir vladimirovich, marina magamena akhmedova, yes, the editor-in-chief of the regnum news agency and marina worked in the donbass for the fourteenth year, she wrote over 100 reports. good afternoon,

vladimir vladimirovich, uh, immediately after the liberation of mariupol we began feeding its residents. four times a week we brought hot food there for women, children, jerks and everyone who wanted to eat, and every day we fed about 1,500 people, and most importantly, we brought them drinking water water, then in donetsk, in mariupol there was no electricity or water, and we prepared everything in donetsk, along these roads we transported everything to mariupol, and gradually, of course, life... mariupol began to get better, but in donetsk, at the same time, due to constant shelling, the residents are experiencing even greater need, and although we are not abandoning mariupol, because there is still someone to feed there, these are the same children with mothers of many children, the elderly, the sick, but nevertheless, six months ago we decided to constantly feed the districts of donetsk, and when we

when we arrived there, people came out very gloomy, gloomy people, especially... one grandfather, he never smiled, and we even thought that he was angry with us for something, one day we arrived, and he was smiling, nothing has changed, ukraine also continues to shell, but he just realized that help will be constant and that there are people in russia who need it. since then he always comes to us with a smile, i say we, we did, we organized, but i mean a very large group of people, tens of thousands of people to feed in mariupol, kuibyshev district of donetsk, the village of gornyak , garbari, lazovskoy, and most importantly for drinking water for the hospital, for water for the hospital in bakumovo, and this place is quite difficult in terms of military operations, our volunteers go there, collect money, really tens of thousands of people,

it’s been going on for almost 2 years now and i was very worried that... now in the twenty-third year people will get tired, they will stop helping us, and those people who are already counting on us will be left without help, but surprisingly people began to join in the help even more people the collection is now even greater, and i personally explain this to myself by the fact that in february of twenty -two, well, not all people, how could we form our own idea of ​​​​what was happening, but gradually over these 2 years they observed, drew their conclusions and.. .. for help, for the same, for the same money that we collect, in the donetsk people's republic there is a school of drones, it was also opened by us, its technical organizer, my colleague, yuri leonov, well, what is a school, people are sent there from different departments fighters who are 2 weeks from morning to evening they learn to fly, the school

at first glance is nothing special at all, just a basement and the hymers have already flown there twice. and we even joke that we shouldn’t put our eggs in one basket, by eggs we mean our teachers, operators, and drones bought with public money, and the school has already been operating for more than a year, it has saved, i think, hundreds of lives, the guys are coming back prepared for their unit, they can protect themselves and can protect their comrades, and about a year ago, i met here in moscow a woman. she is from the lipetsk region and she looked very upset, her eyes were constantly watering, i asked her what happened, she said that her mobilized brother had died. i then asked her, after the death of your brother, weren’t you disappointed in the special military operation? and she , she said that after the death of her brother, all her

brothers went to volunteer, and her father sold the car and sent this money to the needs of the front, since then this village is busy every day with weaving nets, relatives, soldiers they send them photographs of the area, they look at the fabric, and select colors. even a girl who was blind from birth weaves with them, they make trench candles, cook stew, into the house where the cooking is taking place, someone is always pulling something from the residents of the village, some a goose, some a rabbit, some a pig, and a soldier, he i put this stew on a fire candle, heated it up very tasty, of course, when i told my readers about these people, they themselves suggested, let’s raise money for them to buy machines for the material, and we did it. and then i went to a social home, a social home is a house where old people live, they are either, well, they are homeless, or their family abandoned them and they have nowhere to go, they then wove rugs, but

no one bought these rugs, they asked me, and we also want to weave nets for the front, these girls from the lipetsk region , they came to them, taught them how to weave nets , left the machines, and the house itself, the social house, is supported by the salaries of men who live in labor houses, these are men who homeless people drink too, they live in a warehouse, but they work and give 25% to these old men, and some of these men have also already volunteered, now they are elderly, they fly mask networks, and these networks regularly leave for the fronts and they are happy because they feel necessary, and in the belgorod region mothers of many children... bake pies, and these are not a few pies, these are a lot of pies that go to the front line, and there they have a chief baker, a mother of seven children , a single mother, they themselves collect flour,

stuffing, we of course helped them and collected them for a large oven for the same flour, for the filling, but i asked them, but you yourself are in need, you have many children, why are you helping, they should help you, they answered me, and we help because we have many children in families with many children, a child is taught to share from childhood, and i then thought that we in russia now have all become one another, well, almost like families with many children, because we learned because of the svlitsya, and i think that’s what you meant when you said that family is a spiritual phenomenon, it seems to me so, well, here i am no requests, i just wanted to talk about these small things - well, tell you how civil society is mobilized in general, thank you, thank you, thank you very much, these, as you said, small things are of great importance

for all our people, thank you very much and to everyone involved in this activity , thank you, please, is there anything else vladimir vladimirovich, we’ve been working for almost 2 hours, what’s your schedule, well, a couple of questions, if there are any questions or, there are a lot of them, let’s have two , two questions, yes, we fix it, thank you, kiryu glebovich koleda, archpriest, rector of the church of the holy new martyrs and confessors of russia in butovo. father kiril, please, vladimir vladimirovich, good evening, i will traditionally talk about the topic of preserving memory, preserving historical memory. about our compatriots who died and suffered during the years of soviet power, it would seem that in our

difficult times, the difficult historical period that we are now experiencing, this topic may fade into the background, but nevertheless, the attitude towards this topic is as it were a litmus test of how our society views the value of human life and the value of the human person. in the fifteenth year, a government decree approved the state concept of commemorating the victims of political repression. in 9, this concept was extended. by your decree , a special interdepartmental group was created to implement this state concept. and over the past time, quite a lot has been done, very serious ones have been carried out. archival research on this topic, in many books of memory have been created and published in the regions , monuments have been erected in many places

in memory of the victims, of course , one cannot help but remember that you opened a memorial in the city of moscow in the seventeenth year, on october 30, the seventeenth year, it was very important in general , doing in the sphere of this activity, and uh, museums have been created in many regions and museums are developing in particular... of course, we must remember, we must say about the activities of the gulag history museum in the city of moscow. in the twenty-third year , this activity was joined by military historical society, members of the interdepartmental group regularly travel to the regions, where, on the one hand , the group members get acquainted with how this activity is carried out in a particular region, on the other

hand... methodological assistance is provided in resolving certain issues. that this topic continues to have current evidence that people are actively taking part in this activity, now it is not children, victims, or even grandchildren who are taking part, but great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren. that is, this topic remains relevant. as you know, uh, a lot of involvement in this area of ​​activity. hosted by the russian orthodox church , in particular, with the blessing of his holiness the patriarch, a number of events are planned for the twenty-fifth year dedicated to the centenary of the death of patriarch tikhon, patriarch of moscow, confessor, in particular, the issue of holding an exhibition of sketches for a painting by the artist pavel korin is being considered in the tridyakov gallery , russia is leaving, the creation of this painting was, the idea

of ​​this painting arose from the artist, under the impression of the funeral of patriarch tikhon, and this painting is undoubtedly a masterpiece of our russian painting and a very important historical document, unfortunately, due to technical reasons, for a long time, the general public has not had the opportunity to familiarize itself with these important masterpieces. of our art, uh, in - unfortunately, uh, the specified concept, the action of the specified concept ends in just a few weeks, at the end of this year, despite the great work done, uh, a number of issues remain unresolved, we are very far away from the fulfillment of the behest of anna akhmatova, i would like to name everyone, it is necessary

to continue - archival historical research, unfortunately, despite the fact that you have given the corresponding instructions, special legislation on the preservation and memorialization of mass storage sites has not yet been developed, it remains unresolved and a number of issues, in this regard, on behalf of the members of the bear-wall group, which includes...