export, trying to find out issues of military-technical cooperation between russia, shared the information he had in this area, and asked to comment on it. if it was about classified information, they directly told him that this topic was closed and would not be commented on, but this did not stop safronov. here is one of the episodes of safronov’s telephone conversations. well , there was no conventional complex, the same rocket. iskander, which is mixed, and , accordingly, the block that is being developed by the enterprise. and also

it, in fact, is launched using a standard launch vehicle, and well, they were promising, here’s a conversation with the head of one of the military enterprises, you know, so i’ll write a note about the fact that negotiations are underway with pakistan posu-35, for example, on fighters, and you you understand what kind of person you are... the history of the relationship between the moscow journalist ivan safronov and the czech spy martin is very revealing, as they say.

the correspondent fell for big money and betrayed the interests of his homeland. we limited our accusations to selfish intent. it's proven and the court. all other motives are just our assumptions, which, well, in a good way , i wouldn’t like. we can only assume the motives for such a crime; as a rule, the motives should be much more serious. what actually became the reason for ivan safronov’s betrayal, we are unlikely to ever know.

here, but this amount, it, firstly, suited safronov, 200 dollars, to sell his soul, conscience, honor, profession for 200 dollars, you need to understand here. after the investigation was completed, the criminal case was brought to court, a high-profile trial began,

followed by many media outlets, including western ones. on september 5, 2022, the moscow city court sentenced him. we decided to meet with all the participants in this high-profile case, and first, ask the lawyers of the convicted ivan safronov. lawyers know their business well. your journalistic investigation, preparation of a documentary film about the circumstances of the criminal case against safronov, participation of any persons in this preparation. may result in criminal liability for these persons, for my participation in in preparing your documentary and video interview, i believe it is necessary for me to first familiarize myself with the documents and materials already at your disposal, as well as the information and comments you have already received from the competent authorities,

in particular from employees of the investigative department of the fsb of russia. i recommend that you exercise caution when working on this project due to the nature of journalistic activities. collection and analysis of publicly available information was regarded as high treason, and you are preparing documentary film based on materials and information received from russian fsb officers admitted to state secrets. next, our program tried to talk with safronov’s relatives, first with his mother. yes, i will not communicate, sorry, all the best, and then the sister of the convicted person. yes. i wouldn’t like to communicate, but nevertheless you gave interviews to other tv channels or to the press, i gave interviews to tv channels a long time ago at the very beginning, when it was still some kind of high-profile case, now now it seems to me that everything has already been absolutely said about this case and

absolutely clear, i don’t think i can say anything new, surprisingly, none of ivan safronov’s colleagues also wanted to communicate, the former general... in the frame is political scientist damuri voronin, we met with him in sisol fortovo, where he waiting to be taken to the colony. as proven in court, ivan safronov gave voronin secret information about the movements of russian troops in syria. voronin forwarded the information

to the german foreign intelligence service. he was detained, confessed to everything and received 13 years in prison. i found it, i found it, because what. i read in kommersant there were articles by ivan safronov, i contacted vanya through facebook , introduced myself, said there, van, i am such and such a person, i said, van, this is the topic, then you can write about it, you are like an expert, he says , yes, of course, i haven’t written about this already, demuri voronin, a citizen of both russia and germany, the man is sure that he will definitely be exchanged soon, they are preparing for an exchange, yes, but when it will be, the devil knows, will it be me? yes, yes, who the hell, well, this is not for me anymore, i don’t know who it is, it seems the only thing demuri regrets is that the recently purchased house near moscow no longer belongs to him, yes, yes, now i am using it from the state, maybe it will be useful to someone in the state, you

don’t feel any guilt at all, you don’t see it, in one country you are not to blame for this, in another country, well, the law is written so that you are to blame for this, there is a court that... decided that you are guilty, ahead. after the meeting in sizo with demuri voronin, our film crew went to the krasnoyarsk territory. to the colony where he is serving his sentence,

former journalist and official. ivan was waiting for us in the detachment. this is not a sleeping area, this is a daytime area. respectively, at the moment from getting up to lights out, this is where we go for a walk in the morning, walking yards, well, on the street, which from one and a half to 3 hours, respectively, in accordance with the standards, we are there, we walk, we spend our day here , respectively , tv, radio, books, well, tv, i see you have a cable tv studio here, a mirror.

can you invite me after all my stories? to my work, so that i can return back to a merchant, a merchant for me is not just some newspaper and not just a letter, but it is a huge part of my life, i will be happy to return, we move to the psychologist’s office, the conversation continues, ivan recalls major european cities and share their impressions. berlin, a well-equipped city, a city that was virtually destroyed after the second world war, and noruins

were able to create, a city that in life is very, well, adapted for life in terms of comfort in terms of some other things everyday possibilities, i like this about it, that’s why i like it, i hope that someday i’ll go there at night, and prague? prague is beer, it is beer, of course.

which is imported from the czech republic, they then tell me, you sold your homeland, he says, i say, of course, for beer, the convicted safronov jokes, exactly until the conversation comes about money, and specifically... about remuneration, which he received from representatives of western intelligence services, and as for this amount of 82,000 euros, 87,100 euros, that means, as far as i understand, as far as i i realized that every time i went abroad, every time i went abroad, the investigation believed that i

brought with me at least 20 thousand euros earned by criminal means, and so you understand, never, not once, yes, such an amount i was not there, not what was found, yes, even at the border control and so on, once i was actually inspected by the border control, i had several thousand euros there, well, i presented them, they were simply counted, like would fall, we are talking about money that, as the investigation established, the journalist received from larysha paid you, larysha paid you, larysha didn’t pay, dmu didn’t pay 248. according to ivan safronov, this money was given to him by damuri voronin, only as a fee for the article. as for his espionage activities, the convict is skeptical about this. there are two episodes in my main case, the first is related to

the alleged espionage in favor of the czech intelligence and one is related to the alleged espionage. signs of espionage, nevertheless, this formed the basis, first of the indictment, and then of the court verdict. the story with demuri safronov generally considers voronin absurd, he supposedly simply wrote a text for him, i sent it to him from my email, so that you understand about the methods of conspiracy, my email was new. i sent my mails in 2022.

it turned out that this was high treason and i worked for voronin’s smoker, and he worked, accordingly, god forgive me, the university of thuris in switzerland and the bundesna christine linst for external development. sofronov still believes that he was engaged in journalism; he loves the profession and misses the editorial office. i believe that my work was qualified in an absolutely ignorant manner and, as a result, was admitted. i don’t know, intentionally, not intentionally, but the mistake that led to imprisonment at 22 years, yes, well, until recently this was a record term, this is a mistake as a consequence, you think, this is not the same as a mistake as a consequence, i think it’s well there are two options, but either this is a deliberate action, a consequence or an error, well, who needs it, who needs it, who needs it, can , who needs it, can, right, so, but regarding the fact that

here, here i arrived, i would as usual , like anyone. was assigned to a detachment with ordinary conditions of detention, that's what you did there, what the daily routine was there, the daily routine is absolutely standard, getting up at 6 am, making the beds, some, well, again, there are household chores and so on, exercise, breakfast, someone who works divorce for work, those who do not work, accordingly , remain in the detachment, unfortunately. and finally, the main question: ivan, you did not sell your homeland, you did not sell it or give it away, and i do not intend to do this in the future. let us remind you that former reporter-official ivan safronov was convicted

of high treason and received 22 years imprisonment. russian intelligence services established that safronov had close ties with western intelligence services. in this program, we were able to show only a small part of the evidence that the investigation collected against ivan safronov. let us remind you that the case has only been partially declassified. it is because of this that a variety of speculations on this topic became possible. have you experienced some kind of pressure from western intelligence services or journalists who tried to discrete and...

the spy story of ivan safronov seems to be over, many years to the young man is about to spend time behind bars for high treason, now his days are monotonous. and are subject to strict prison regulations, it turns out that he himself deprived himself of a future, cases of treason, espionage, well, in general, in any country, at any time they cause exactly the same understandable reaction, firstly, they do not cause and do not add -

to his son, well, keeping in mind that perhaps he is the same, well, most likely he is the same decent person as his father, instead... sofronov began to trade this information and not just trade, not just use it for some commercial purposes, but in fact sell it to our

enemies, spies, which has already been proven in general . the high-profile criminal trial of ivan safronov was widely discussed in both russian and foreign media, and the details of the investigation. have been kept under seal for a long time, in this program we provided the opportunity to express their position to all participants in this matter.

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