what ivan safronov himself thinks about this from his conversation with his ex-girlfriend taisya bigbulatova, for the first time we are showing an audio recording attached to the case materials, in short, i need to come up with a way to find it, so i think, well, once, well, one out of five sums there

, which i of course can seriously recall you know, i'm saying damn, we had it with us, it was exciting and addictive, i'm so crazy, judging by this recording, ivan safronov's girlfriend understood the journalist well, the journalist collects secret information max trailer

, we and now about the sources of information that used by ivan safronov, all of them are high-ranking officials of different organizations, we cannot name their names for obvious reasons, the joint-stock company rosoboroneksport, trying to find out issues of military-technical cooperation in russia, shared the information he had... in this

area, asked to comment on them. if it was about classified information, they directly told him that this topic was closed and would not be commented on, but this did not stop sofronov. here is one of the episodes of telephone conversations with afronova. 31 and respectively. thus, it is allowed to serve as a missile and which hits targets for. and an operational-tactical missile. a blow-out detail unit, which is being developed at the arrow company in oregon, and in fact it is also launched from the air using a standard launch vehicle, and well, in the future the rocket should be built. here’s a conversation with

the head of one of the military enterprises, you know, so i’ll write a note about what i’m conducting. the history of the relationship between a moscow journalist.

what actually caused the betrayal we are unlikely to ever recognize ivan safronov, but we can definitely say that the journalist was fully aware of what was happening, we continue to study the materials, there are things that are better not to do, i’ll tell you this, i don’t want to be at 30 they gave me 20 years, in a pub. the reporter met not only with the czech larysh. at the end of 2015, fate brought ivan safronov together with another spy. de muri voronin introduced himself as the head of a consulting company, a german citizen, and immediately began asking questions. information regarding land

operations of the armed forces of the russian federation in the syrian arab republic. this information was classified at that time. it was later declassified, but at that time it was absolutely secret information. did safronov fulfill the order? safronov quickly carried out the assignment; it was clear that he had already collected this information, because this topic was very relevant at that time. investigators established that ivan received a more than modest reward, he received about 200-odd dollars, voronin i calculated my tariffs for... for collecting information based on the number of pages, the amount of text, but this amount, firstly, suited sofronov, 200 dollars, sell your soul, conscience, honor,

profession, here you need to understand that it was not just $200, he had a new contact, sofronov performed regularly, it became known. media, including western ones. on september 5 , 2022, the moscow city court sentenced ivan safronov to 22 years in prison in a maximum security colony. we decided to meet everyone

participants in this high-profile case, and to begin with , the lawyers know their business well. your journalistic investigation, preparation of a documentary film about the circumstances of the criminal case. for my participation in the preparation of your documentary film and video interview, i believe it is necessary for me to first familiarize myself with the documents and materials already at your disposal, as well as the information and comments you have already received from the competent authorities, in particular from employees of the investigative department of the fsb of russia, i recommend you manifest. when working on the project , due to the fact that safronov’s journalistic activity in collecting and analyzing publicly available information was regarded as high treason, and you are preparing a documentary film based on materials and information received from russian fsb officers admitted to state secrets, safronov’s relatives, first

with his mother, yes , i will not communicate, sorry, all the best, and then the sister of the convicted person, yes. i wouldn’t like to communicate, but you nevertheless gave interviews to other tv channels or to the press, to tv channels, i gave them a long time ago at the very beginning, when it was still some kind of high-profile case. now it’s clear to me , i don’t think i can say anything new, surprisingly, none of ivan safronov’s colleagues also wanted to talk, the former general director of roscosmos, dmitry ragozin, now he, a senator from the zaporozhye region, agreed to talk with us by phone. ragozin made the following statement, we quote. i won’t give interviews because i don’t comment on questions. state security and the court's decision, the whole situation extremely disappointed me, this is the first, second,

that there is no immunity to betrayal, that's all i wanted to say, in the frame is political scientist dari voronin, we met with him in sesol fortova, where he is waiting for transfer to the colony , as proven in court, ivan safronov gave voronin secret data on the movements of russian troops, foreign intelligence services of germany, was detained, confessed to everything and received 13 years in prison, i found him, i found him because i read in businessmen were articles, ivan safronov, i contacted vanya via facebook, introduced myself, said there , van, i am such and such a person, i said, van, this is the topic, then you can write about it, you are like an expert, he says, yes, of course , i have already written about this more than once, temuri voronin, a citizen of both russia and germany. the man is sure that soon he will definitely be exchanged, they are preparing for an exchange, yes, but when

it will be, the devil knows, and vanya will be exchanged, but who will be exchanged, well, this is not for me anymore, i don’t know, it seems the only thing about what does demuri, a recently purchased house in the moscow region, regret? it doesn’t belong to him anymore, yes, now i ’m using the state, maybe the state will be useful to someone, you don’t feel any guilt at all, you don’t see it. in one country you are not to blame for this, in another country, well, the law is written so that you are to blame for this, there is a court that has decided that you are guilty.

after meeting in pre-trial detention center with demuri voronin, our film crew went to the krasnoyarsk territory, to the colony where the former journalist and official is serving his sentence. ivan was waiting for us in the detachment, this is not a sleeping quarters, this is moment from getting up until lights out, this is where we go for a walk in the morning, walking yards, well. accordingly, in accordance with the standards, we are

there, we walk, we spend our day here , respectively, tv, radio, books, about tv i see you have, there is a cable tv studio, a mirror, local, local tv, yes, that is, there are no channels , which you remove yourself, and some selection is shown, accordingly, news programs, here, this is what is happening now behind bars, do you know? yes, yes, well, plus more information that comes from letters and so on, of course in this , there are probably some of your personal things here, uh, there are personal things, ivan shows our film crew books, they, of course, brighten up the monotonous everyday life, yes , that is, you want to say that one of the guys reads churchill, well, why not, why not, which is very interesting, war, okay,

i know that the guys in the room, when i had the verdict, they published a very touching address to me, i’ll be honest, it brought out a tear, but after all my... stories, invite me to your work so that i can return back to the merchant, the merchant for me is not just some newspaper, not just letters, yes, this is a huge part of my life, i will be happy to return, we move to the psychologist’s office, conversation continues, ivan recalls large european cities and shares his impressions,

world war ii berlin was virtually destroyed and... on the ruins they were able to create a city that, in life, is very, well, suitable for life in terms of comfort in terms of some other everyday opportunities, in this in this i like it, that’s why i like it, i hope that someday i’ll go there, and prague? prague is beer, it’s beer, of course, but beer is your drug, as i understand it, yes, well, why do you immediately turn to drugs, everything to drugs.

so he and i became friends, we worked together , went to play football, drank beer , and did a lot of other things there, about this chestsky house, i keep telling everything endlessly, and such a chestsky house, listen, just imagine, tverskaya is coming, tverskaya imskaya, i i understand, i understand, there is this czech house, a beer restaurant, you know, you know what it’s like there, because you can smoke there, because of course, the beer is cheap, the beer that is imported from the czech republic, then they tell me, you sold your homeland, he says, i say, of course, for the beer? the long-awaited safronov jokes exactly until the conversation turns to money, and specifically about the remuneration he received from representatives of western intelligence services. and as for this amount of 802,000 euros 87,100 and i understood, as far as i understood, that every time i travel abroad, every time i go abroad,

the investigation believed that i was bringing with me at least 20 thousand euros earned through criminal means. at the same time, so that you understand, never, not once, yes, i did not have such an amount, not what was found, yes, even border control and so on, once i was actually examined by border control, i was there several thousand euros, the journalist received from larysh, demul paid you, laryshil, larysh did not pay, demul did not pay, 248 dollars, yes, they tell me that i betrayed my homeland for 248 dollars, according to ivan safronov. demuri gave him this money voronin, just like the fee for the article, as for his espionage activities, the convicts are skeptical about this. in my main case there are two episodes, the first is related to alleged espionage in favor of czech intelligence and one is related to alleged espionage in favor of german intelligence.

the first episode is built on...

and christian linsta's bundesna on external development. safronov still believes that he was engaged in journalism; he loves the profession and misses the editorial office. i believe my work was completely misclassified, as a result of this, there was a mistake made, i don’t know, intentionally, not intentionally, but a mistake that led to imprisonment for 22 years, yes, well, until recently this was a record term. this is a mistake in the investigation, do you think? this is not that it’s an error in the investigation, i think that this is, well, there are two options, yes, either this is a deliberate action of the investigation, or because here, here i arrived, i would be as standard as anyone who arrived. i spent 14 days in quarantine and was assigned to a detachment with normal conditions of detention, this is what you did there, what there is a daily routine, the daily routine is absolutely standard getting up at 6 am, making the beds,

some kind of household routine again and so on, charging doesn’t work, so it remains, no, unfortunately not, the reason lies in the deadline, in the deadlines. russian intelligence services established that safronov had close ties with western intelligence services. in this program.

figures who, without understanding the essence of the accusation, without understanding the materials of the criminal case, without seeing the volume of evidence in front of them, gave very bold assessments that the accusation, they often asked similar questions to the president at the first convenient opportunity, this was a favorite topic then, however , they probably experienced a certain pressure, but the only antidote to such pressure is a well-investigated criminal case, these are examinations, interrogations, procedural

actions, all balanced decisions, literate, exclusively within the framework of the criminal process, so that not from the general prosecutor's office, which is overseeing this case, or from the court. cases of treason, espionage, well, in general, they are in any country, at any time

unnecessary trust in the journalistic community among the reading audience watching tv, to be honest, and secondly, well, you’re thinking about whether it’s worth it, is it worth it once again... maybe - there’s a need to pay attention to people like this and to trust such media, it is very difficult to gain trust so tired that he actually inherited the sources of information, his father had high authority, many people trusted him, and as a result they began to trust his son, well, meaning, that perhaps he is the same, well, most likely he is the same decent person as his father. uh, instead, safronov began to trade this information and not just trade, not just use it for some

commercial purposes, but actually sell it to our enemies, spies, uh, which in general has already been proven for a period of time. the high-profile criminal trial of ivan safronov was widely discussed in both russian and foreign media. and the details of the investigation were kept under seal for a long time. in this program we provided the opportunity to express our position of all participants in this case.

this is how we saw the spy story of former journalist ivan safronov. this was our investigation from moscow, krasnoyarsk region. it's up to you to draw conclusions. see you. russia 24, one young lady got drunk on gus.

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