tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 December 29, 2023 12:30pm-1:01pm MSK
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how much do you think the world has moved towards multipolarity and what role has russia played in this? well, i would like to first say what would have come out yesterday, just on your channel there was a large-scale interview with the minister of foreign affairs of russia sergeyevich lavrov, in which he summed up the results and talked about the prospects for what awaits the world, i sincerely advise everyone to watch it, transcripts are available on the website, because you know, a fundamental interview, but if we talk... very bright symbols of the transformation of the world order, and this what is certain is that everything connected with the relationship of that same world majority, which for many years, decades, and to be honest, centuries, has not...
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taken upon itself the responsibility to form the work of this association already in an expanded composition, this is the first time, i i mean for many years, but for the first time on such a scale, because the prix grew one state at a time, and now it’s five, so the program is rich, the agenda is very interesting, there will be a large number of events, not only interesting in form, but also rich in content, as for russia’s relations with china, how do you assess them? china to the csto? for many
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years now, i think, together even with china , we have voiced the same idea in different ways, in different formulations, and this was not some kind of planned tactics or a thoughtful, you know, information-political operation, nothing like that, but we talked about about the same thing, that... that the closeness of our countries is determined by the identical attitude towards the responsibility of states, two nuclear powers, two major players economically, politically, geopolitically, on the world stage. what does it mean? this does not mean opportunistic jumping from pedestal to pedestal in the name of momentary interests, planning, a programmatic understanding of how things are moving.
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the same global majority is working, including on the nonovskaya platform, the special role of our countries is a stabilizing role, this is a role that preserves the work of the security council, perhaps this is not an ideal organization, perhaps it is imperfect, i agree with that others, they just haven’t come up with anything better yet, neither in theory nor in practice, while this is not better, let’s keep what has worked for several years...
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but the special role of our countries russia and china is now associated with even greater responsibility they are looking at us countries of the world majority from this point of view, and of course, bilaterally, we have again very often said over the last 5 6 7 years that the level of political relations, again our role in the international agenda, our understanding of the importance of international law, this level, yes to say, political mutual understanding has always been at a very high level, at a very high bar, and at the same time the economy, unfortunately, has not kept up, it has not reached the given level, the given bar, now the situation
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in order to resolve emerging problematic issues, therefore moscow and beijing have always emphasized the effectiveness of participation in this organization that they categorically do not accept this very bloc ideology, to put it in such simple, banal language, is not defined by the phrase “who the girls are friends with.” our attitude to strategic stability and security, you mentioned ukraine, let 's talk about it, we see that the rhetoric regarding the situation is changing in some western countries, internal contradictions are growing, for example, even the washington post newspaper removed the section dedicated
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, both the foreign policy concept and the program , must be felt and seen, not because this or that western publication has changed its layout or been removed. some section on some side of its website, this should not be decisive in our understanding of the situation, but the logic of the development of events, we talked about that and... it is now obvious, it seems to me, to everyone that changes in the domestic political agenda in the young state of ukraine, the change is not from the point from the point of view of national interests, interests, or political processes , democratic transit in this country, from the point of view of the logic of using the state as an instrument by other countries, other political forces outside this country, will lead to disaster, this applies not only to ukraine, this applies to any country ,
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especially ukraine, which for the first time in its history had the opportunity to build its own statehood and, by the way, left the soviet union, probably one of the most successful, without problematic issues, with a good level of industry, science, by the way, with good indicators in agriculture, with a good resource base, with excellent opportunities. geopolitical and so on and with friendly relations with their neighbors, this was all derailed for only one reason, probably better to say two, because the forces on the outside are, first of all, of course washington, this is london, these are certain some players within the countries of the nato alliance have targeted ukraine from the point of view of using it in their interests, and
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which first appeared conceptually, precisely at the proposal of the russian side, all this was intended to prevent a catastrophe, but unfortunately, we return to these again two factors, western intervention in every sense of the word in the situation in ukraine and the lack of ability to counteract from within. and i mean the absolute incapacity of the political elite inside ukraine, unfortunately, they couldn’t, well, they played, played against, in this case, the ukrainian people, to our great regret, the way the situation is developing, from the point of view of western support, for example, well, you understand what’s most interesting, because as you look, the americans began to actively forget their own words..
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. are called, and here and there a story appears , as we have already said, of narratives, as they are in the public space, about the need to find some way out of the situation, not directly, but one way or another indirectly, they begin to discuss the problems of negotiation process, diplomatic , and so on and so forth, and at the same time, again, they do not call things in their own words, what exactly they are...
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of stability, security and resolution of these issues, every time the united states of america... destroyed another the agreement on which this very world security and stability was secured and maintained, they drew attention to the fact that this process would be similar to a domino process, that is, they take out one piece, after which the collapse of the entire structure begins, we are in the twenty-first year in writing, not orally, not as some behind-the-scenes secret or semi-secret intrigues, but in writing and... officially, including with the publication of fundamental approaches, they were offered dialogue, not, again, as some kind of political history, as a practical, practical, pragmatic and preparatory process that should lead to, i don’t know, the modernization of this
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there may be a question when they will need to cope with a colossal number of internal problems, on the external perimeter too, but related to their systemic crisis, so i think that again, let them take care of themselves, let's talk about the situation in the middle east, taking into account the ongoing operation the united states in the red sea, again,
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tried to report that the world had become safer, as obama also said, but all this was brought down literally in one hour on october 7, and therefore, of course, a special updated mechanism is needed, why a quartet is not enough, again i will quote sergeevich lavrov. because he did not represent the countries of the region, which, as is now also obvious, not even a specialist, are not just involved, but are, and well, in general, both victims and participants in the settlement simply from the ground, from the life situation, and of course , this mechanism must represent countries, regions, of course, the entire base that has been accumulated, it certainly should and can be activated. we are all now watching the situation in serbia with alarm. do you think a coup is possible there and what kind of assistance is russia ready to provide to the authorities? here
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remember, when we talked about ukraine, we named two factors that led it to collapse: the first is global intervention from outside the collective torture, the second is the lack of internal immunity, to resist this, including this includes a certain naivety, confidence. more than an intervention, because for many years serbia has been presented with a condition by the collective west, and it is formulated in a very interesting way, if previously it was formulated either with the west or with
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russia, then it was adjusted again same by the west only with the west without russia, then it was modified only by the west against russia and the formulation is just around the corner, you won’t believe it. this is a big test, this is a big way to counter the onslaught that serbia is now trying to cope with from the west, but i believe in them, they know their
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history, they have never abandoned it, by the way, from ukraine, they sacredly honor all those who not only worked for the well-being of the state, but gave their lives during the same xx century, and even earlier too. and this immunity has deep roots, it cannot simply be broken or simply abolished , it will not work, so i am sure that whatever scenario the west has prepared for the serbian people, the serbian people have something to answer, can belgrade fully count on support for russia, of course, you just spoke about an important thing about the maturity of society, in this regard, a question that concerns... not so much foreign as domestic policy, recently the authorities in russia have been doing a lot for consolidation, social cohesion, how do you evaluate these efforts, how successful are they, is
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and it seems to me that these deep characteristics of our people, multinational, multi-religious, preserving their history, have come into motion, you understand how, well , this, of course, is also a man-made question, a miracle would not have happened on its own, it was necessary to go to a miracle consciously work very hard, this is a miracle that happened.
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and of course, love for the country, for the people, for loved ones, we felt it all, this is for me special, a special gift, a special state, and i am grateful that i experienced this in my life and saw it with my own eyes, this is what we were told, we have lost forever, yes, every man for himself, but there is no country there, as we literally recently ... barel suggested, but it didn’t happen, he said, russia as a nation, he said this out of impotent anger, because they can’t do anything to us and won’t do anything as long as we are united, and we felt it in ’23 this energy, this special atmosphere of our internal unity, which becomes the key to achievement and overcoming even the most
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terrible trials. well, actually, you summed it up, you probably named the main result , how you see it this year, but nevertheless, i really ask the question, what was this year like, well, in general, and for the russian foreign ministry, how successful were we on foreign policy platforms, well and for you personally it was good, then let’s have a little exclusive, because a lot has already been said about the fact that the concept of foreign policy was adopted that was completely new from a point of view, not from the point of view of form. russia-africa, the second in a row, but really the largest event, overcoming in every sense this very pseudo-isolation and demonstration of this, and de facto, the content part, there was a lot, but now a small exclusive, the global results of the past 2023.
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marya vladimirovna, thank you for this interview, thank you for answering the question, happy new year. at least three waves of air attacks were recorded today in ukraine, a series of explosions are reported from kiev, odessa, kharkov, lvov, dnepropetrovsk, the kiev-controlled city of zaporozhye, from the ternopil and khmelnitsky regions. in kiev , the building of one of the metro stations was damaged, train traffic was stopped, and there was also thunder.
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