the first round, a few minutes after the block of political advertising, we will continue. my grandfather is a world-famous chemist; in the nineties he was invited abroad, but he always refused, saying that the davankovs had only one homeland - russia. i want us to be proud of our scientists and respect our teachers. therefore, investments in science education should double. and this is in my program: with love for people. vladislav davankov, candidate for the presidency of russia, number one on the ballot is new time. i'll clean it up, no. leave the zhirinovsky case

lives, slutsky, candidate for president of russia , the wealth of russia should belong to the people, yes, taxes for the rich should be increased, taxes for the poor should be exempted from taxes, yes, housing and communal services should be in the hands of the state, yes, raising the retirement age should be abolished, yes, the state should. treat protect, yes, then kharitonov, yes, for nikolai kharitonov, for the communist party of the russian federation, for socialism. my name is vladislav davankov, i came to politics from ordinary life, where people want simple things, to live in abundance, to be happy and confident in the future. i i am going to the presidential elections so that we can all live with dignity and freedom, in a modern and peaceful country. lived with love and the future, lived

in a new way. vladislav davankov, russian presidential candidate, number one on the ballot. time for something new. remember, we voted for zhirinovsky and the liberal democratic party. i will raise russia from its knees. i will protect the russians. great people, great russia. don't lie and don't be afraid. shirinovsky, or will it be worse? get up, great russia, not a single unemployed person. homeless, hungry! all these years zhirinovsky and the ldpr fought for you, protected your interests! be true to yourself! vote for the ldpr, vote for sludsky! in russia it is difficult to find a person who would not dream of justice and a better life. few people know that at our national enterprises wages are more than 100 thousand rubles, free medicine, education, interest-free housing allowances, and everyone.

we continue the debate on the russia 24 channel, i remind you, we are talking about education today, moving on to the second round, i propose now to talk about higher education, as you know, russia first joined bolognese. the topic was then disconnected from it, well, here’s what instead of it, there is a nuance here, as they say, and there are all sorts of proposals and different kinds of strategies, now let’s try to figure out the strategies of the presidential candidates, through their proxies, well, let’s begin again from oleg nikolaevich slobodchikov, please, your 4 minutes, dear voters, the bologna system came to our country in the late nineties, they first started talking, in early 2000. to plant it actively,

as experiments, academic the community opposed it then, and there was a lot of talk about how this system was worse than the education that was in russia then, inherited from the soviet union to us, but few people listened, the officials determined that the bologna system would be, everything we are switching to it, and despite the fact that... there were promises about academic mobility of students, they said that a student studied for 2 years, in the third year he can go to berlin, then he can go to rome to study, gain comprehensive knowledge , of course nothing happened, moreover, the system introduced, it even worsened our internal situation; today a student, if he is transferred from one university to another, for example, from the third year, at best he can transfer to the second year. and then in the first year

there is a colossal loss, this is the result of the ballon system from which we switched and received in general, but... i want to say as an example that my friend studied at the kharkov law institute, in the third year her father was transferred her to saratov, she passed the exam in the middle of her third year, i moved and, without passing or taking any additional exams, began to continue studying, so there was a normal system, that is, a unified training program, so if today we talk about the creation of our national system of higher education, then the ldp. believes that it is necessary to take into account two important factors: the first is the fundamental nature of knowledge, it is very necessary, the second factor must be combined with an applied nature, so vladimir volfevich proposed at one time to do in this way what we said that schoolchildren cannot

for now, decide on the choice of profession for the first second year, to teach fundamental knowledge, to give fundamental knowledge...

with europe, to create a single educational space like this, to move from one university to another, and so on, and what’s the matter, what did they want - then , but they wanted it like this, they wanted russian diplomas to be recognized in the same way as other european diplomas on an equal basis with these diplomas, which in the end they received, the diplomas were not recognized and are not recognized, that is, you need to go through a bunch of more procedures to make it prove your knowledge.

soviet specialists produced engineers who were ready to design and who could work as designers and could create, could create technologies, bachelor's degrees are those students, those graduates who are only users of all these technologies, that is, they cannot create themselves , what does this mean, this suggests that with the transition to... the ballon system , the quality of higher education has deteriorated ; today our country faces colossal problems, and the most important problem is our technological backwardness. today we need , like air, specialists of such

a high level of quality of education, effective, who could create their own domestic new technologies. therefore, of course, this system, it in no way... justified itself, moreover, if we turn to finance, we can see that if there were 3,000 budget places for a bachelor’s degree, then for a master’s degree it was already in... two times less, that is, if a person finished his bachelor's degree , then he simply cannot enroll as a magistrate, because he simply has no money, that is, these inconsistencies, plus this low quality of education, have finally reached, so to speak, our managers, our senior management, after all, we left the balloon system, but it’s not clear whether we left, because it’s still ongoing... recruitment is all, of course, this cannot be done in one day, there must be

a certain transition period, but there is no need to delay this transition period , because the situation that is developing around our country will not wait, the next point that i would like to note is pay in higher education, but it’s a disgrace when in regional educational organizations of higher education... a professor gets paid well 50 there, well , a maximum of 60,000 rubles in regional ones - if it’s moscow, this is one level of wages, if it’s a regional university, this is a different level of wages, but it should be the same, so our program provides for wages professors, the salary of scientists is no less than the salary of a minister; a minister can be changed and found, but a scientist is difficult to find. moreover, there is such a brain drain , thank you very much, alexander alexandrovich , please, we have reached higher education,

i remember the times, well, such soviet times, but in a good way, we had the strongest education, and now - on the one hand, i also want to say yes, because well, i was there, i studied there too, but on the other hand, i remember the nineties, well, that is, the situation is yes, that is, everyone could calculate the sine of a right angle, yes, that is, the whole ... the country knew, ask me, so any student of tiberia and the humanities knew, yes , of course, everyone knew, everything is fine with us, then further, further , what happened, then these same people are sitting, who seem to know everything about all these sinuses, they are charging the banks in front of the tv, i couldn’t believe my eyes, the banks are actually in front of the tv, someone is there telling them something, they are charging, then some kind of... that time, they begin to carry all the money into mmm, that is, what happened? life changes and people find themselves are not ready for a new life, that is, one of

the first questions is what we teach, what we teach, the second question is who we teach, who we teach, so when we talk about higher education, including education, and we understand that not all universities are busy, that is, not all universities are busy, this is objective, there was a demographic hole, there were problems with the birth rate and... as a result, not all universities were busy, but as they did in many countries, they began to engage in education, including pensioners, actually launched a project, this is such an active second life, this cool idea, people need to be constantly taught and given the opportunity to develop, and today we are talking about education in a broad sense, not only about universities, the pro-balone system or its absence, the transition to another. we are all interested in how we can study, including remotely, and at the same time we get

such a situation that for one student, let’s say, in moscow, we looked at the statistics per year, there it was 163 rubles per student, in kurgan 5400, well so for a second, three times three times less, but the same proportion i got it from the teachers. since this disproportion was, is, will probably exist, because well, the regions are equal, financial opportunities should logically be given to every citizen, but in fact they have different financial opportunities in their budget, so this disproportion results, i believe that one of the tasks to make sure that any person can choose where and how to study, the second point, we must, since we have the opportunity to fill in. groups in the good sense of the word, think, including about those people who retired, they might want

to create a small business, why not, some of them want to study, and as for young people, young people say: you spend so much time on this educational process, and we are again learning what we most likely will not need in life, therefore practice-oriented education comes to the fore, that is... we must change the vector to practice-oriented so that a person immediately sees the possibilities of application for this education, and naturally, the pandemic showed us... unique opportunities distance learning, such training is offered by many people, recently our faction in the state duma new people helped create an information business association in order to decide who teaches and who deceives, vladislav dovankov has a comprehensive program, i suggest

going to his website davankov 2024.ru and reading there , alexander alexandrovich touched on, by the way. a very important topic, in my opinion, is the continuity of education throughout life, here, of course, new technologies should work, but old technologies, of course we also must not forget, because this is an education system, and we have a long history of just the formation, well, it turns out that there are different educational systems, so we have such an opportunity to somehow determine here, take the best, including our own history, but let’s come back just to lifelong continuous education, this is really necessary and... it is necessary for the country’s economy, i propose just to discuss this topic, let ’s discuss, if you don’t mind, let’s discuss this russian system, oleg begins with us nikolaevich, please, dear voters, the topic is very interesting, when the university of world civilizations named after vladimir volshivichanovsky, and i am the rector of this university, adopted a strategy until

the twenty-fifth year, then the stem line we had was the slogan education through... all life and we developed our strategy in such a way as to provide education not only bachelor’s, master’s, postgraduate, but also additional education, distance education, now we are developing a new program, since we have completed the previous one, in we are talking about a new strategy , we are putting forward a different slogan, education is life , today specialists are required, as a rule, with higher education, which is why vladimir volfovich says: all the time, give access to higher education, at least for the first two years , give everyone the opportunity to enroll without exams, let them at least get the basics of primary higher education, then he will understand whether he needs education or not, but the person will have an increased level of culture, this is very important, and leonid udarovich slutsky supports

this idea. alexander just said that the pandemic has shown the advantages of distance learning. here i do not agree, and the minister also confirmed that distance education has also shown its big disadvantages, these are the cases in which distance education is convenient, as a higher school teacher, i will say that here is additional education, retraining, advanced training, here is distance education it’s really important and necessary, why you can look at it from the regions, you can look at it from the regions, we taught now i’ll justify all this too. first of all, ask your professors, who do they like to teach most? they will tell you, they most like to teach students receiving a second higher education, these people come, they already know what they want, they already know how to study, this is the distance education that we gave during the pandemic, how did it end, students, when

they receive their first education, they say: oh, i can’t hear you, oh, i don’t see you, oh, the connection is lost, that’s it.

advocates that having experience of higher educational institution, so that all this is connected, so vote for leonid eduardovich slutsky, for the ldpr and come to the polls. thank you.

nikolai mikhailovich kharitonov, under the leadership of oleg nikolaevich smolin, this group was, they developed a wonderful bill called education for all, that’s what it says there, it ’s key there. the main goal is that education should be continuous, from kindergarten to the end of life, life stands still, people must comply this movement, they must receive new knowledge, new technologies, requires new knowledge, so in this, in this law of ours, all this is spelled out, there we also said our attitude towards the unified state exam, at first the unified state exam is only voluntary, but already then you need it from eg.

it’s okay, we can argue, i will sacrifice even a few fractions of a second for you and me to argue. so, the fact is that when there was a pandemic, the teachers

said that the education was mostly distance learning, the quality dropped sharply education, when they returned to school, it was impossible to recognize them, that is , they had to return to the same topics again and again, everything, because this attention is different, that is , children and distance education are different, this is nonsense, it is impossible. what to do today from the government and what is spelled out in the program of our candidate , we need to get away from regulatory-based financing, you said it correctly today, in different regions everything is different, here are different approaches, different

rates, different salaries, why? yes, because the money goes to the student, they also go to the university they go, they also go to school, but there are small educational institutions, there are larger ones, where there is more, there is more money, you know, we need to get away from this... this is regulatory-per capita financing, it caused optimization, which practically killed our education, so we really need to get away from this, and - of course, the salaries of teachers should be at least twice as high, i mean the rate, even mrod is not suitable here in any case, we need to set a rate that would provided today good, high-quality work from our teacher , waste your time, you see it here, i really liked the normative per capita yes the normative per capita yes so i think sports, you ’ll play sports with me, thank you very much, but now there will still be time to argue during just this period that our tv channel

provides to alexander alexandrovich khurudji by law, please, your 4 minutes, you know, i can say that even here we are learning from each other, but look, yes, that is the learning process the learning process of every person , which... it begins from the moment of birth and continues throughout life, and the longer a person does it with pleasure and sincerely, the slower he ages, this is my opinion, that’s just it, that is , i believe that when you constantly learn something new, it may not be at all because , by and large, we don’t need a crust, that’s what ’s different about young people, that’s what generation z is called, but those who... are in their third year - they were born and younger, they they don’t look at the crust that way, it’s less important to them, here i am still in my generation, we needed a diploma,

a red one. at the same time, what is most important and what surprised me, and i believe that this experience should be analyzed, they train those who then work in their specialty, because one of the situations that is inexplicable to any taxpayer, he says, but wait, i i give money to taxes, in theory i want my children to study, they are taught something, they are taught something there, and then they go out instead of working there, they work, i don’t know, before

in trade, remember ? of course we would somehow formulate it this way in the legislation and everything , so that later it turns out that the university is assessed based on how many people work, including in their specialty, targeted training, this is an assessment of universities, but no one directs them to target workers, that’s the problem, but so you say very correctly, then the most interesting thing begins, we study with you all our lives, it would seem

to you that the state is structured in such a way that you need to look for quick success, but we understand how to advance both fundamental science and many processes, so that’s all tied into one a system that is not so easy to understand, so there are two sections, the first section is ordinary people who study all their lives and who want to understand what a license from the ministry of education means and costs, so this should be a transparent process.

therefore, the most important thing in our opinion is not to forget to return the 2,500 scientists who left over the last 2 years, this is also important, thank you very much, what an interesting conversation you had, even i was thinking that we should probably rename the debate a conversation of trusted and very interested in its subject of persons, but the name is so long, they probably won’t miss it after all, and we’ll see you again tomorrow, we’ll discuss another very important topic, it will be culture, of course, i thank our participants for thank you for your attention, time is short, you give us, time, we wanted it like this, all the most important things in life are in our hands, to fulfill a childhood dream, gain new knowledge, feel inspired, build a career, make your plans come true. create a family,

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