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hello, this is the program of the fifth studio , my name is yuri bogdanov, the main topic in the center of our attention is still the terrorist attack in the crocus cityhole, we are waiting for entrepreneurs to contact agalarov directly, there will be an opportunity to ask him questions related to security, fire safety, exploitation and future fate.

is terrorism, now, of course, the reins of power are with the investigative authorities, and as information appears related to the connection of certain states with its organization, it will be it is clear which of them is an open participant, which is an accomplice, which is a customer, which is a sponsor, which ultimately worked to divert attention from the real organizers, so now the investigative authorities still have priority. and those who have all the information and are ready to issue their qualifications , well, i hope that in the near future, at least, well, i don’t want to rush, the main thing for us, the most important thing for us is to have absolutely accurate, reliable information, we closely monitor all processes, we see the reaction ukraine, we see quite arrogant and cynical statements from both zelensky and his entourage, which at least demonstrates their awareness.

about how the terrorist attacks were prepared, how they took place, which means a desire to shift as much as possible what is called shifting the focus of attention, to change the direction of public attention in this direction, that is, to redirect it to... we certainly don’t hear condolences from kiev, very actively involved and no words of regret, no words , ukraine is definitely participating in changing this social vector, that is, they are now therefore this suggests that such mechanisms as terrorism, which is considered toxic throughout the world from the point of view of international law... ukraine does not consider it, does not consider it toxic and does not consider it impossible to use it moreover, here is a whole series of statements made by ukrainian officials who emphasize that ukraine is directly involved and acts within the framework of terrorist actions and their preparation. you mean the statement you made

basil? and this too, this too, because these kinds of revelations, you know, when a person says: we, of course, do not officially recognize, and gives a whole. is the party that at the state level welcomes, uses and accepts methods such as terrorism and their structures do this, because the head of the main intelligence department of ukraine has already admitted it more than once, and

malyuk himself has repeatedly talked about how proud he is of striking at crimean bridge, which clearly qualifies as terrorist attacks, therefore. here, you know, these revelations, in my opinion , will cost ukraine quite dearly, because not all states that adhere to international law are ready to turn a blind eye to a terrorist state, because supporting terrorism at the state level is very serious claim, international law provides for a whole list of conventions, treaties that work to ensure that the whole world unites against terrorism, and ukraine. in this case, kiev demonstrates that they these are using this toolkit of a political, military decision, that is, in this case it is very toxic, and for those countries that are not directly involved in complicity in these processes, this, of course, is a certain

wake-up call, but for those countries that are sponsors of ukraine, there are quite a number of them, the same ramstein group, then with such activity of ukrainian officials out of... wantonness, they can quite easily be included in the list of sponsors of terrorism, therefore in this in this case, this is a very serious issue that is being discussed at the international level, and ukraine, as a state, is involved in terrorist acts, it cannot stand aside, but in recent days the question has arisen again that it is necessary to recognize the sbu egur as terrorist organizations, tell me, this topic has been in the information field for quite some time, how the process is going, what... those structures that are directly involved, there is every reason to believe that they are involved in organizing the use of terrorism, how some kind of tools to achieve their

goals, then they must have this, have this designation of terrorists, therefore, but this is all done at the legislative level and decisions are made. other authorities, that is, certainly not the ministry of foreign affairs , so now i think such a critical mass is gathering, because the heads of a number of departments have already spoken out about the need to return to consideration and decision-making that individual structures, in which in terrorist directions, of which there is no doubt, they should be qualified as such at the state level on the part of russia, so now this is a question in general for legislators and political management. radan valerievich, regarding the crimes of the kiev regime and the situation in belgorod, tell me, are you collecting evidence there and what data do you have on this matter at the moment? you know, now we are clearly, definitely observing that the main focus has nevertheless

switched to the belgorod region, that the fact is that quite a lot of settlements, densely populated areas are located close to... the russian-ukrainian border, which is also the front line, so now we are getting these incidents every day, with deaths of people, with injuries of people, in the past, over the past week we have... in the gorlovka direction there have been more than 40 shellings, in the last 24 hours, again, three

people were killed there, five people were wounded in the donetsk people's republic, so let's just say that these are multi-directional processes, but what is happening now in belgorod of course, it is of significant importance, because there are a lot of arrivals using primarily western ones.

such a spasm occurs when they cannot strike, but this spasm should linger for a much longer period, ukraine should, in principle, at the level of instincts, have an understanding that if there is any attempt to strike at our civilian targets, they will not, will not stay without an answer, so there will be an answer in any case, razyanich, there is one more piece of news that i would like to discuss with you, it may be internal ukrainian, but nevertheless the situation may have a certain influence, perhaps yes. secretary of the national security and defense council alexei danilov was dismissed

; unofficially, the reason given is his insulting statements addressed to the special representatives of china; there may be other reasons behind the scenes, how do you assess it? and what can be said about alexander litvinenko, who was appointed to this position, do you have any information, well, firstly, that danilov himself stayed long enough on this positions. he came, in fact, according to the quota of one of the ukrainian oligarchs who participated in this project called zelensky, he was there for quite a long time, but here are his last statements, because, well , according to his characteristics, danilov, of course, is such a chatterbox criminal, what a man , who actually, well, has an extremely low iq, that is, but at the same time rants on any topic, here is his last rant, of course, they very significantly influenced the attitude towards ukraine, and especially when this concerned... the special representative of china , which is why i think that this was the last straw that forced

zelensky to be removed, because china’s position cannot be ignored, and neither ukraine nor its sponsors and coordinators, of course, can that’s why danilov took too much of himself, that’s why he’ll go somewhere, i don’t know, to engage in some other, different type of activity, and his place will be taken by another person who, in principle, according to his previous characteristics... has never been different publicity, that is, alexander letvinenko, he is such a service worker, and in his biography there is also training at school, the kgb higher school, now the fsb school, that is, in russia, where he just graduated from it in 1994, he is a cryptographer, he was trained, so it should be noted, that here he is, this is such a service analyst, so he was engaged in analysis there all the time, then recently he specifically headed the foreign intelligence service, but it should be noted that his... movement coincided, firstly, with zelensky’s coming to office and then strengthening

the influence of, well, most likely the british special services, here on on on on on on the special services of ukraine, so he has shown himself, probably, as the person who is satisfied, in any case, for now we can say that he is such a dark horse and it will be necessary to watch what decisions and what steps will be taken , you know, here we are also talking about the fact that it is possible to reformat from... the council to the security council, because the weakening and delegitimization of zelensky’s power is coming, so it is possible that this structure, into which the secretary was introduced, was litpenet itself. this is an advisory body under the president, but they can try to make a prototype of the state council out of it, that’s what, against the background of zelensky’s loss of legitimacy, this, well

, let’s say, is not excluded, an interesting version , by the way, just came to mind, look, syrsky, litvinenko , everyone has. there is some kind of background connected with the soviet union or russia, this could somehow influence the development of events, do you think? you know, it doesn’t exist directly, it can only be regarded as just a good basic education, nothing more, but to unfortunately, received quite a long time ago, and you know, it’s only probably from that side that their connection can be regarded as if they have such an education, a connection with russia, but you know, let them consider it, let it remain a mystery for them. and one more question that i would like to ask, this is the story around mobilization in ukraine, we see that some legislative initiatives are being introduced in the verkhovna rada, they are rejected, discussed, there is some kind of public discussion, but as i understand it, there is no decision the final decision has not been made, what do you think, is this some kind of behind-the-scenes struggle too? no, this is not a behind-the-scenes struggle, this is, firstly , an attempt, that is, everyone understands perfectly well that

ukraine will most likely accept new strict rules of mobilization, because they are actively under...

camouflage words for this, that is, it was assumed that there would be universal training, that is, three there, four there, up to six months. law on mobilization, but now these skirmishes will continue for some time, but again the key question here is not to accept or not to accept a law on total mobilization about who will bear political responsibility for this. razyan valevich , thank you for your comments and detailed answers to questions, i will remind you that we talked with ambassador at large of the russian foreign ministry radion miroshnik, well, now imin agalarov, president

of agalarov development, son of the owner of crocus group, imenizovich, joins the broadcast, hello, hello ! yes, there are a lot of questions about the security of crocus city hall, about the organization of security, about fire protection systems, you said that there were inspectors working in the building, why was such a large event not guarded by professionals with the necessary training with weapons. well, you know, all our facilities, especially the concert hall, where there are large crowds of people, the law does not allow us to have armed guards, who will be crocus employees. accordingly, i, as a touring artist , travel to all the halls of the country, i never see armed security anywhere, this has never been the task of the owners or operators buildings, we don’t have armed guards on the territory, so we , we call them guards, they are also controllers, but what do you think, is it necessary to change

the security system for such events and centers, well, in light of what happened... probably this is something that needs to be reviewed in legislation, but we acted within the framework that we had at that time. how do you generally assess the actions of crocus staff? well, at the highest level, because i myself arrived at the territory about 35-40 minutes after i learned about the first shots, immediately entered the building along with his employees, including crocus techola security guards and the director of the hall and with his father orazularov. the director of the hall, roma grachev, was there, and we inspected the hall, unfortunately, there were many dead there, after which we walked along the evacuation corridors, reached the fourth floor, and we succeeded - the ministry of emergency situations employees were with us, and possibly also law enforcement agencies. i personally broke down the server room door in order to get him out of there in order to save all the surveillance cameras

all the information that was recorded so that law enforcement agencies could eventually use these servers in order to find these scoundrels, who at that time we did not even know if they were still in the hall, or if they had already left the hall, so we went on our way fear and risk. here. as for cctv cameras, many have noticed that there are a lot of video frames filmed directly by the victims and visitors, but there are practically no video frames in the public space, at least in the public space, filmed by the system cctv, where is this footage if they were saved? there was an investigative committee on site, and accordingly, all the servers, all the croxhols are equipped with a huge number of cameras, and everything went into investigation, that is, we ourselves did not see these frames, so we talked to you... about the actions of the employees, tell me, what are they going through? -training employees in case of such emergencies? but it takes place regularly at all our facilities, and my

father aras agalarov, he is very sensitive about this, he tormented us at one time with these test evacuations and inspections hoses, gas masks, fire extinguishers , respectively, we did this regularly, plus we constantly undergo scheduled and unscheduled inspections - to eliminate them, we eliminate them according to acts, according to documents, a huge service is engaged in this, and i want to highlight a lot of information on social networks about that nothing worked for us at all, this is absolutely not true, the ministry of emergency situations confirmed that all fire services worked as normal, we are monitoring this and understand how important this is, crocus hall has been operating for 15 years. and more has passed there 4,000 concerts, international events , the government, presidents go there, i personally met dmitry medvedev, donald trump there, it is clear that

by definition we could not treat this negligently, the question arises why it flared up so quickly, well, because there was a arson with flammable, some kind of, i don’t know, gasoline, kerosene, which is almost impossible to extinguish in normal mode, i want to point out if you have all seen the footage. which spread all over the internet, where terrorists shoot directly in the hall, and people evacuated, they evacuated not through fire exits, but through the stage, and many write that the doors were closed, in fact crocus cityhol has a sufficient number of fire exits, and where the doors were closed, these are not fire exits, these are what - these are the office premises, because behind the scenes there are a lot of dressing rooms, a lot of studios. sound recordings of warehouses, equipment, so people are afraid, because technical evacuation corridors lead some back to the foyer and people did not want to run back to the foyer, because they understood

that they were also shooting there, so they were looking for alternative ways out, they came across iron doors behind which, by the way , they were iron, because according to fire regulations they were iron, which were closed, only personnel were allowed in at one time with cards, so people in this horror and fear were looking for any way out. that is , the emergency exits all worked as normal, well, not only did they work as normal, if again we go back to these videos, there is a video where there are still people in the hall when the shooting started, there is the same video where the terrorists are still shooting, but the hall is practically empty, that is, this suggests that six approximately 6.00 people left the building, the terrorists were on the premises for less than 15 minutes, as far as i know in the hall, at least during these 15 minutes ... the majority of 98% of the guests of the crocus city hall managed to leave the crocus, fortunately, after

what happened, additional checks of the fire safety evacuation exits of the fire extinguishing systems are being carried out at the moment, maybe surveys are being carried out authorities and representatives, i personally spent about plus or minus 30 minutes with my employees, again on the initiative of the director of the hall, roman grachev. he told me that we can still escape, server, they are on the fourth floor along the same corridors along which people were evacuated, we entered a burning building, it was already these corridors were already filled with smoke and we managed to reach the fourth floor, the task was also to see if there were survivors or people hiding there; the guards of the neighboring facility managed to save several people, who were hiding directly in the toilets , they were with me, also two alexanders, and we got to... and there was an iron door, i broke open the neighboring wooden one, found a wrench and we tried to open this door, we opened it for some time, then

i was an employee with me. in an emergency , i asked him for an ax to cut off the wires from this server room and we literally dragged this entire iron structure back along these corridors in order to preserve at least some information about what happened, and you can at least approximately time find out what time it was? i think it was approximately between thirty and nine o'clock, maybe later. i didn’t look at my watch , that is, it was about an hour later, probably after maybe 15 hours, maybe, i don’t know, 50 minutes after the first shots were fired, but the building was already on fire, but all the technical corridors had light smoke, we practically walked through all of them; there were a lot of people, about 15 people, uh, again, i repeat, my father was with us in these corridors, roman gorachev, the director of the hall, several security guards,

rescuers from the ministry of emergency situations.

yes, we support from the first day, employees, victims, and missing, dead, my father and i decided to connect the muslim magamaev foundation, we made the first contribution there, which continues to collect funds, there will be reporting, and it will help directly everyone who suffered, our task is this: it will be transparent, it will be with all reporting, we don’t often talk about charity, but always. in this case, naturally, we we can’t pass by, i understand correctly that people will need to present some documents stating that - firstly, they are victims, and secondly, to present certain costs for treatment, rehabilitation, or will it be on a list basis? you know, we continue to work out the mechanics while we are raising funds, i think that in the next 48 hours it will be clear what algorithm we have assembled a team, including the crocusihol team, who were all

left without work, so that they work... now this question is, what will happen to team? well, we plan to employ everyone, more than 300 people worked in crookshall, and we want to save jobs, so that people continue to work, distribute them to neighboring facilities that were not damaged. as for the building itself, how would you currently assess the amount of damage? in recent days, quite a lot of speculation has appeared that relate to the situation with the commissioning, with some legal issues, with the pledge of this building, could you comment to put an end to these speculations, what data do you have on this, yes, thanks for the question, the building was put into operation in 2009, as far as i remember, it is absolutely officially impossible for a building of this scale to be put into operation without going through a huge number of inspections of services that... must

sign a whole a bunch of documents, which means that after which, annually, monthly, the fire services checked the functionality of all systems, planned and unplanned, the building was insured with inglustrakh, the insurance amount, i think, is 1/30, maybe 1/4 of the amount of damage, that's why we're really here obviously a very injured party, crookstehol is our home. terrorists came in, shot our guests , a huge amount of negativity fell on us, that we are to blame for all this, but today i want to emphasize that - be prepared for a terrorist attack on such a scale where you are simultaneously fired upon, set on fire, potentially blown up, because i i heard some explosions when i was inside the building, i don’t think anyone can be prepared for this.