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in a rare impudence, in a personal letter he asked peter i to help the starving swedes with provisions, promising to pay. peter ii acted even more unexpectedly: he sent the enemy a convoy with food and medicine and did not even take the money. how does this relate to what is happening today? let's talk about the lessons of history and parallels of our time with one of the most influential historians of our country. we are waiting for vladimir medinsky. vladimir rastistalovich, hello, first of all, thank you very much for finding the time for this conversation of ours, especially in our a difficult time, which from the point of view of historical parallels is very interesting to talk about. we know that now there is a war going on not only in the literal sense, but a war for.
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minds, a war for meaning in some sense , a war of history, how to fight this, how to resist it? if we talk about history, then well, the war for minds, the struggle for minds, and history in this regard, of course, is a battlefield, unfortunately, but there is no escape from this, these are realities, some states in this regard are partly historical. politics, because each state has its own historical policy, there is social policy, military, cultural, and then there is historical policy, that is, how the state builds and sees itself in a historical perspective, how it interacts with the scientific community, how it finances or does not finance historical research, archeology, and the preparation of a work of culture, about history. because history
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is not only artifacts and museums, history is also cinema, and literature, and monumental sculpture, all means of conveying historical knowledge and immersing people in historical themes, which is why all states act differently, and of course, there is a great temptation to resemble what is there, you know, how some historical uropatriots act in our country.
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historical heritage, a thousand-year history of statehood, and statehood is basically continuous, if we take the calculation of the continuity of sovereignty, then we specifically conducted such a study, well, it turns out, with maximum modesty, russia ranks second in the world, after england dash britain in terms of continuous state sovereignty, on the third, by the way. therefore, we don’t need to invent anything, we don’t need to fantasize, we need to study and popularize what we have, our own historical heritage. and in this sense, how would it be correct to build interaction with young people, when we talk about how to teach history? in this regard, an honest conversation with young people is especially important, because when you start not saying something or god forbid someone winces.
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textbook, maybe quite dry, i saw real people, real people, real destinies, real passions, when we wrote the history textbook, we generally tried, and we will continue to do so. which should push you to think, certainly not to memorize. let's talk a little more about the history textbook, in which directly, this was the main task, because the fact is that before , as it was, there were a colossal number of history textbooks, well, as of a couple of years ago, somewhere
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around thirty or so lines textbook, each line is approximately 15 volumes, that is, 30 already at 15, this is only... in the center of russia, somewhere in the outskirts, this research was not carried out, but before there was even more, there were many historical lines financed directly by foreign funds, this also happened there in memory , by the way the well-known soros foundation is appropriate and inappropriate, so it was actively involved, publishing textbooks, allegedly supplying them for free to schools, well, you know this one - and also free help? yes, such free help, it’s better to do without it somehow, because they, they, of course, form brains, shape the worldview, and the state in the nineties, by moving away from this, lost a lot, we have a single
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state textbook, which is now used in schools only for high grades, tenth and eleventh, but at the end of the day we are preparing textbooks for all grades, starting with fifth, he is more in this regard...
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the ministry of culture, when i was a member of this commission, was about 10 years ago, i then served in i insisted that the history course be taught according to the imperial model, as it was before the revolution, and the approach was as follows: before the emperor ascended to the throne, this is history; from the moment the current ruler came to power, this is already some other discipline, social science. there was such a subject as fatherland knowledge in some gymnasiums before the revolution or political information, but this is something more relevant, this is not history, but the academic community itself insisted that history, modern history should be taught
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literally until the moment the textbook was handed over to the printing house, then there is until the last, this it’s all history, i didn’t agree with this and was publicly against it, but as time has shown...
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it’s boring, verbose and empty, we’re just stealing the time of schoolchildren, it would be better to play football, honestly, or take a walk in the park lessons in botany, sixth-graders, well, honestly, it would be more useful than what we are trying to do in a dry, uninteresting way.
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with the fact that then when entering universities they ask about knowledge society, not history, it ’s easier to memorize it and forget it forever, well, yes, you still need to know history and it’s advisable to raise it, social studies memorized, memorized, rummaged, forgot forever and no one remembers what he taught there, i took social studies when i was admitted, when it wasn’t yet the unified state exam, honestly no, because after all it’s such a very formal thing , not thought-provoking, absolutely, otherwise it causes...
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details are not disclosed, because this is a difficult page in recent history, when you know, the draft peace treaty between russia and ukraine was prepared by delegations, even endorsed, but under pressure from the allies the ukrainian leadership decided, under their numerous promises, to abandon the text of the peace treaty that had already been prepared and...
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and now, as a person deeply knowledgeable of history, deeply analytical, drawing historical parallels, in your opinion, we are far from a peaceful settlement, from peaceful negotiations ? i don't know.
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i’ll say something that i’ve never said before, the ukrainian delegation said the following: it says: it’s easy for you, you have one boss, and we have three, so whatever we sign up for here, we need two more bosses agree, that’s all, that’s everything, that’s honest, that’s honest, that’s the tragedy, unfortunately. i myself am from ukraine, originally soviet, this is the tragedy of a non-sovereign state, non-sovereign, it is very difficult to negotiate with someone who cannot, who even wants to, but cannot make a decision, and at the same time is a party to a serious conflict. yeah, about historical parallels, i
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watched one of your last public speeches on military day. glory about the victory of alexander nevsky in the battle of the ice, you spoke out, if you allow, i will quote because this idea is very close to me, it really touched me, that as a result of the victory in the battle of the ice , the largest power in history was created, with what historical period can you compare what is happening now, and you can can we say that this is also, in a sense , a struggle to be a sovereign great power, to remain and continue to be. you know, it’s very easy to say that history repeats itself, such a common cliche, but this is not entirely accurate, history never exactly repeats itself, something happens differently, so therefore, it is important to know the lessons of history, you see, for a modern politician and statesman it is very important not only knowledge, but
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understanding, how, i would say, even to feel history, at the tips of your fingers, to feel this wind of history.
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no, well, this is a question of absolutely ordinary economic competitive relations, tv channels are fighting for ratings for a share of viewers, i don’t know, businesses are fighting for market share, on a macro scale on the planet they are fighting for zones of influence, for resources, and resources - this is money, this is influence, they will be resources
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natural, human, political, and... transport resources are very important now, how transport routes are, in this regard, our country, well, where did it happen that everyone wants it, everyone wants to get something here for themselves, here but we don’t want to, but we want to manage all this ourselves, because we didn’t get it from aliens, we got it from our grandfathers, great-grandfathers.
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the unified state exam has its advantages, it has its disadvantages, but this should not be the only criterion, this is obvious, something else is important here, for example, it is important that when entering humanities universities, they ask for knowledge in history, and not in social studies, this is very important, and i am sure that in this regard , now the policy of our relevant ministries, it... will move towards this will come in the near future, yeah, another question about culture, i really want to ask how the state builds relationships with culture,
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especially now in such a difficult time, but at the same time not slip into opportunism and provide a good interesting product, the state finances and subsidizes culture, well, it’s quite obvious that you spend taxpayers’ and budget money to support culture, the state and government departments for this. those in charge should try to support what corresponds to the interests of the state of the overwhelming majority of society, that is, what corresponds to the public interest, not a separate taste, not that it requires funding only because the creators think it means something, ultra-modern manifestation, so you need separate and a lot of money for this, otherwise which corresponds to public demand and public interests.
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for this you need to have taste, i say again, and wisdom, when we sometimes lack this taste and wisdom, we get a completely unnecessary prohibition, and at the same time there is also an advertising campaign, for example, there is a doctor of zhivag or the archipelago. here they made mistakes, but here they did the right thing, so this is not an easy and hard job and i can only wish
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success to the officials of the ministry of culture and believe me, i understand how difficult it is for them. yes, indeed, but again here you return to what is very important in this work, in this activity, to know, to return to history, the historical. thank you very much for spending your time with us, thank you for such a thorough, serious conversation.
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we will take on this case, it will be an honest detective story.
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welcome to asia, where the heart of the continent beats.
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the russian army successfully repulsed all attacks in the control center. the center and south-west groups occupied more advantageous positions. zelensky’s formations lost over a thousand more soldiers and officers mercenaries. among other things, a destroyed train with western weapons and equipment in the udochny area, as well as personnel and equipment of the sixty-seventh brigade of the ukrainian armed forces at the loading station in the balakleya area and the drone control point. in addition, 24

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