and finally, the economic factor. for many years, we believed, following one president of a very large country, that everything is decided by the economy. remember, everyone repeats, it’s the economy, the whole economy is a fool. turachok was the person who said this, because in reality all three of these factors play a role, now, of course, is the moment of a geostrategic turning point, military strength and fortitude are coming to the fore. the strength of ideas, but nevertheless the economy is important, without the economy there will be no strength, and without the economy, without bread the spirit will be undermined people, we have already experienced this ourselves, in particular the eighties, so let’s start with economic and political issues. vladimirevich, i am turning to the eighth point of your program, although you did not say where we are going, but nevertheless all the points are wonderful. in one point in

your eighth point in the program, you talked about territorial development, but did not name one direction that seems strategically important to me: we were completing our western journey, it was very useful, it brought us a lot. it is absolutely clear that in the current circumstances of the world, in the conditions of long-term enmity with the west, no matter how it... god forbid it turns into a completely violent form, but most importantly, due to the fact that we have turned to another world that is rising, we need to shift the center of your spiritual, economic, and partly political development towards siberia and the far east, you once proclaimed an eastern turn, but this eastern turn was in progress. due to uh

first the far east, then the northern sea route was added to it, but at your speech at our forum in 2019 you they mentioned the need to develop large research and production centers in central siberia, then of course we had covid, then we had a military operation, and somehow this story was forgotten.

all resakhimi, maybe we will still develop a new strategy for the development of all of siberia, the sibilization of russia, why are we not deciding on this, of course, we had a project for the development of the siberian district, i studied it very much, it - as far as i know, it is for you too i didn’t like it, but but, but the development of siberia needs... in my opinion, it’s imperative to start as soon as possible throughout siberia, i agree with you that we need to develop the eastern regions, western siberia, both the eastern and the far east, we started with what was the most, not just in demand, the most... hottest from

the point of view preserving the territory of their development, we started from the far east, because there was a large depopulation, and we could not afford for this process to continue, i hope that it is noticeable what has been done over the past decades, over the past 10 years regarding the development of the far east, i won’t list everything now, but we have a fairly large program. the same applies to siberia as a whole, i repeat, western and eastern, well, western siberia has traditionally been developing since soviet times, bearing in mind those mineral resources that the whole country still uses, but gradually these centers of economic development are shifting all the way to the east and to the north, if earlier they said that it is known who said that russia will attract...

and we have already in recent history also set ourselves goals for the development of this direction, we made some miscalculations in our work, we thought that there would not be such a load, the government thought so, so it shifted a little to the right towards the development of the eastern

testing site, but nevertheless it was, it continued, maybe not in the volumes that we originally planned, but of course we will do it.

this also cannot be done, unfortunately, it cannot be done in a completely purely administrative way, so i mentioned a company that already works in siberia, yes, rusgiddr, this is one of the largest, if not the largest hydroelectric company in the world, more that head of the company, when i appointed him, i said, on the condition that you move to siberia, so that the headquarters will move to krasnoyarsk, he agrees, he says, he agrees, family. will go, but you know, in order for it not just to build a building, you need to recruit specialists, so he was ready to leave immediately, but recruiting specialists is not an easy story, you have to recruit on the spot, some want to move, others doesn’t want, it’s impossible to lose someone, this is a process,

this process should be, should be organic, but this is certainly the goal, here i am with i completely agree with you, yeah. world development today is shifting to asia, this is without any doubt, and of course, we need to be closer to these centers of development, you are right, right away, right away.

you decide, you don’t want to repeat the feat of pyotr alekseevich, he succeeded, pyotr alekseevich is a historical figure, and he was the tsar of all russia, and then the emperor, these were

different conditions, these were different, this was a different state of society, these were different goals . in the modern world it is necessary to use such means that will be effective work today, and no matter how... we are close in our mentality to quickly making decisions of an administrative nature, we still need to think about what will happen from what we will offer to society in a spontaneous and orderly manner, in my opinion , today we must first of all be interested in moving forward, and if we create conditions for...

we approached the projectile twice or three times, in the end, here is the current head

of the rosneft company, igor ivanovich sechin, he undertook to create a large large-scale shipbuilding, a huge, huge enterprise, but it required enormous effort, well, it’s not easy to do all this, but what i mean is that personnel appeared there, because high salaries, people began to move there, which means the level of wages has increased, technological culture, cooperation has emerged with the countries of the region in this area of ​​​​activity, now we have vtb practically managing the shipbuilding industry, here is mr. kostin, who is sitting opposite me, i am very pleased that he grabbed this so much and how as if he had never been a financier, as if he was always involved in... shipbuilding, but what do i mean, what do we mean now that we are now thinking where,

where to build another enterprise, and also, apparently, somewhere on the shore ocean, or close to it, so natural, natural, in this case, excuse me, i ’m afraid to injure your your imperial consciousness, but in a natural market way. we need to do this, and in this case success awaits us, of course, this is difficult work, but it will be thorough, that’s when i talked about stalypin, yes, it was all in private, we remember everything connected with it, and stalypin’s ties and so on, but then it was the main means of production and it was economically feasible to do it the way... tolypin proposed to distribute the main means of production for people, to create conditions for them, then it worked, now

it’s just an order, well, i think that what i proposed will be more thorough, success awaits us on this path, well, in general, you are absolutely right, of course, it is necessary move in this direction, vladimirovich, i am not, uh, no more an imperialist than you. it seems to me, but i’m just giving in more harshly for this, but i know one thing, we studied this issue, that those countries that moved their capitals, moved them and created a new capital, inevitably, invariably received a gigantic economic breakthrough in these countries, this is always true, we we know this, so we need to remember this, and it seems to me that we shouldn’t forget about the third capital, such a possibility exists. okay, thank you very much, let's move on now to a broader question, well, we now see

that the old world economic system is now collapsing, it will collapse for many reasons, but one of the main reasons is that first the soviet union, and then russia , knocked out from under it its foundation, the year-old the dominance of the west in the world economy, politics and culture, its military superiority, well... then we started to knock it out, this system moved, but was still standing, then we failed, and now they rebelled again , knocked it out, started.

we will be able to use their experience, including for our internal construction, maybe we can take on such work? this is not an imperialist idea, they want, they want to create one with such a system, look, the brattenwood system died a long time ago in 1976, it was replaced by the jamaican system, the bretton woods system was founded. on the gold equivalent, in 1976, well , a decision was still being made nearby, the united states decided to move away from the gold equivalent, the jamaican system was created, which unfastened the dollar from gold,

in fact, which is the basis of this jamaican system?

in this regard, what is happening in the world? the volume of the american economy is shrinking, their fundamental foundations are cracking from time to time, i mean not only their debt, which is off the charts, but also the fact that they do not always cope with the inflation targets set for themselves, so they have set targets for inflation is 2%, they fly out, like just recently. during the pandemic it was 7.8%, which undermines confidence in the american economy, and how is it secured if it is still declining, nothing, and this is... a problem, this is an absolute problem for all holders of the dollar supply, which means that because it

is shrinking, its share in the structure of the world economy is decreasing, this is an absolutely natural movement towards creating multipolarity in the world economy in world finance. of course, we can come up with all sorts of systems, but the meaning this or that currency depends on the value of the economy that it regulates, so what we are doing now, we are building this joint work with our brix partners, and russia’s role here, of course, can be noticeable. we create, here we created a new bank, we are creating our own currency instruments, the whole world, well, not the whole world, but a very significant part of participants

in international economic activity, activities, are switching to settlements in national currencies, with us, for example, with china, i have already talked about this , 90%, we are 90% of ours, our trade turnover is regulated in yuan,

world economic activity from the dollar, this will happen anyway due to the reduction in the volume of the american economy, but by their actions they are accelerating this process, naturally new tools are appearing, here financial instruments of central banks, for example, which we are talking about within the framework of brix, there are other considerations, there are other considerations, for example, just now our colleague from zipamba was talking about attracting investments, right?

moreover, quality, and we will have to do this together, quality and stability, stability of political regimes, then it is possible to develop a settlement system that will be practically devoid of volatility, will not be volatile, will not be subject to inflation, all this can be done, we discussed this with my friend and colleague chairman during my trip, we will talk about this with...

russia, in the words of one bright st. petersburg historian, grew and developed as a military organization of the russian people, when we forgot about it, we crumbled, now we are strengthening, especially as circumstances require, but

there is a problem.

in a modern way, what i mean is because all over the world those who produce special equipment and weapons of the company, they also produce civilian products, and this combination of two directions gives a very good synergy effect in attracting not only investments, but in attracting high technologies, in general we are succeeding, we have an appropriate plan, and it is constantly... in effect,

it is constantly in effect and being executed, now, if , say, last year our level of output by enterprises of the defense-industrial complex and the level of output of civilian products was somewhere around 25 with a little 25, 10% , in my opinion two, tenths, then - in the year before year, in twenty-two, then last year it was already almost 30%, 29 with a tail, so... this process is constantly going on with us, and we, of course, must definitely think about how to ensure that our military spending corresponded to the needs of today, the level of development of our economy, because we cannot parasitize on anyone, as they do, say, in the united states, their level, level...