vladimirich, i turn to the eighth point of your program, although you did not say what.

where we are going, but nevertheless all the points are wonderful, in one point, in your eighth point in the program, you talked about territorial development, but did not name one direction that seems strategically important to me, we completed our western journey, it was very useful, it has brought us a lot, it is completely clear that in the current world circumstances, in the conditions of long enmity with the west, no matter how it happens there - god forbid it turns into a completely violent form, but the main thing is that we have turned to another world that is rising, we need to shift the center of our spiritual, economic, and partly political development - to siberia - and the far east, you once proclaimed an eastern turn.

military operation and somehow this story was forgotten, maybe we’ll come back, because we really need to move the whole country there, to sibilize russia, maybe we mentioned the menusinsky kotlabina there, maybe we’ll create new industrial centers there for the deepest processing of non-ferrous metals, new energy, in new, especially power engineering, and then closer to baikhal...

but the development of siberia, in my opinion, must definitely begin as soon as possible throughout siberia, i agree with you that we need to develop the eastern regions, western siberia, eastern and far east, we started with what was the most difficult.

we have a fairly large program, the same applies to siberia as a whole, i repeat, western and eastern, but western siberia has traditionally been developing since soviet times, bearing in mind those mineral resources which the whole country still uses, but gradually these centers of economic development are shifting more and more east and north, if earlier they said, as we know who said: that russia will attract

the growth of siberia, now we can say that russia will grow with the arctic, because we have the main mineral resources there, well, that’s it. it turns out that they are still complex and expensive to develop, but nevertheless this is a very big prospect, in fact we are doing just that, uh, just now i said only about the development of, uh, that means the eastern range of the railway, but we started this work a long time ago, in general, when russia began this work, the transip, when it was being laid - before the russo-japanese war, and then uh. in soviet times, but already in recent history we also set ourselves goals for the development of this area, we made some mistakes in our work, we thought that there would not be such a load, the government

thought so, so we shifted a little to the right towards the development of the eastern test site, but nonetheless it was, it continued, maybe not in the same volumes as we initially did. well , of course we will do this, only in modern conditions it cannot be done the way it was done in soviet times, and it cannot even be done the way it was done under stalupin. stalypin simply gave away the land, why? because then the main means of production was land, and now the main means of production is brains. we need to develop technologies, build universities, and train appropriate personnel. and we do this too. when i spoke about these campuses in universities, 40 universities, when he spoke about the development of science, education, when he spoke about the need to use, that is , robotization, artificial intelligence, this

will largely develop in siberia, in siberia, we are doing just that, and we will transfer it there and... our corresponding large companies, this cannot be done either, unfortunately, it cannot be done in a completely purely administrative way, so i mentioned the company that already operates in siberia, yes, rushydro, this is one of the largest, if not the largest hydroelectric company in the world, moreover, when i appointed him, the head of the company said, provided that you move to siberia, that the headquarters will move to krasnoyarsk. i agree, i agree, the family will go, they will go, but you know, in order to not just build a building, you need to recruit specialists, so he was ready to leave right away, but recruiting specialists is not an easy matter, you have to recruit

someone on the spot wants to move, someone doesn’t want to, it’s impossible to lose someone, this is a process, this process must be, must be organic, but that's for sure. right away, right away, i have a quick question that i've been preparing for a long time. pyotr alekseevich went down in history by cutting through a window to europe to strengthen russia, then it was

the most promising market, and why don’t we make a third capital, i’ll be able to stand there, finally on three legs. they will move there if you decide you don’t want to repeat the feat of pyotr alesevich, he did it successfully. pyotr alekseevich, a historical figure, and he was the king of all

russia, and then the emperor. it was others conditions, these were different, this was a different state of society, these were different goal-settings. in the modern world, you need to use tools that will work effectively today. if we create conditions for development, then the centers of economic activity

will automatically shift there, for example, we talked about the far east, so i came many years ago to a shipbuilding enterprise near vladivostok, it was in a state of half-life, and i said, you know, here we are not just we will restore, and we will create new competencies and we will build new ships, i had to look at the people who surrounded me, workers, engineers, they were so skeptical about this, i will tell you that it required enormous efforts, to create those, to create that the cluster that is now being created there, because it’s not just about money, which is constantly...

moving there, which means that the level of wages has increased, technological culture has increased, cooperation has arisen with the countries of the region in this area of ​​activity, here we are now vtb is practically in charge of the management of the shipbuilding industry, here is mr. kostin, who is sitting opposite me, i am very pleased that he grabbed onto this so much and how... he was never a financier, as if he had been involved in shipbuilding all the time, but i why, to the fact that

we are now thinking where, where to build another enterprise, and also, apparently, somewhere on the ocean shore, or close to this, and so natural, natural, in this case, excuse me , i'm afraid to injure your, your such imperial consciousness, but...

no more an imperialist than you, it seems to me, but i simply give in more harshly for this, but i know one thing, we studied this issue, that those countries that moved their capitals, moved and created new capitals, inevitably, invariably received a gigantic economic breakthrough in these countries, this is definitely always the case, we know this, so we need to remember this, and about the third capital, it seems to me, that’s all... we shouldn’t forget, such a possibility exists, okay, thank you very much, let’s move on now

to the broader question, well we now see, what is now collapsing is the old world economic system, it is collapsing for many reasons, but one of the main reasons is that first the soviet union, and then russia, betrayed its foundation from under it, the five-hundred-year dominance of the west in the world economy, politics and culture. its military superiority, well, then we started to knock it out, this system went ahead, stood at night, then we failed, and now we have risen again...

we didn’t think that russia could take the initiative, create, well, a master plan for the creation of a new world economic system , collecting brains from new countries, maybe after some time good brains from old countries will come to create, well, let’s say in st. petersburg, again next to the forum, a place on the site of the forum, a center that will create a new world economic and financial system, its outline. died, or practically died, maybe we’ll create the st. petersburg system, they won’t fear us, by the way, like the chinese, because if the chinese do this, then everyone will be afraid of them, and the indians won’t come up to us, both the chinese and the indians will come to us , and we will see that ours

african friends will be happy to participate, i think latin american will work too. together with us, and we will be able to use their experience, including for our internal construction, maybe we will take on such work, this is not an imperialist idea, they want, they want to create such a system, look, the brattenwood system died a long time ago in 1976 , it was replaced by the jamaican system...

the basis of this jamaican system, which is still in effect, is the trust of the american economy. look what's happening on today, in reality, in reality, there is no other guarantee, as they say, yes, except trust in the american economy in today's global financial system, and of course, the united states is being exploited.

trillion, which are not backed by anything , nothing except trust in the american economy, the remaining 4.3 from 5 is what citizens of other countries invested in american companies, their investments in american companies are ensured by the reliability of these companies by their value, but well, their

reliability also depends on american economic system ultimately. what is happening in this regard in the world, what is happening, the volume of the american economy is declining, their fundamental foundations are cracking from time to time, i mean not only their debt, which is off the charts, but also the fact that they do not always cope with the tasks set for themselves inflation targets, they have set inflation targets, it is being reduced by nothing and this is a problem, this is an absolute problem for all holders of the dollar supply, which means that

because it is being reduced, its share in the structure of the world economy is shrinking; this is an absolutely natural movement towards the creation of multipolarity in the world economy in global finance. of course, we can come up with all sorts of systems, but the value of a particular currency depends on the value of the economy that it regulates, so what we are doing now, we are building this joint work with our brix partners, and russia’s role here... of course, maybe noticeable, we are creating, well , we have created a new bank, we are creating our own currency instruments, the whole world, but not the whole

world, but a very significant portion of participants in international economic activity and activities are switching to payments in national currencies; for example, with china, i already spoke about this, 90%, we , 90% of our trade turnover is regulated. all possible topics, and came to the conclusion that the american authorities, like in england, are ludists, yes, they broke the equipment on which they worked, today's american

authorities are today's authorities, they break their instruments of greatness, the dollar - this one of the few instruments of today's greatness of the united states, with their own hands they are pushing the departure

of the trip, we will talk about this with other leaders of the brix countries. this is a very important area of ​​collaboration.

we are already talking, for example, about a basket of currencies of 8-9 years. not to mention, there is no eurasian or brits movement, because there is generally, as you know, competition within, yes there are some, well there are none, settlements are taking place in national currencies, i’m talking about the creation of sdrs, well, it doesn’t matter, i think that still, if we take some kind of, well, not leadership, at least, but we can organize serious work, then we will help.

to all of us, we will help first of all, of course, our small countries, i am almost sure that mr. arsy and mr. nanagova will agree that if russia begins to offer concrete solutions, they will join this work, we need to speed up, and we and we from them , we will all benefit from their advice, you are right, we need to speed up, i agree, well, then i have... then i have another economic question, well, or we are now experiencing a very rapid growth in military spending and the military economy, this is gratifying, because we are returning to - to ourselves, russia, as one prominent

st. petersburg historian put it. grew and developed as a military organization of the russian people, when we forgot about it, we crumbled, now we are strengthening, especially as circumstances require, but there is a problem that needs to be cleared up in advance, now we have 8% of gnp going to defense . this is of course many times less than what you said, 13% was spent in the soviet union in the soviet union, we don’t know how much we spent, since there was no consolidated figure for military spending, but besides that, we spent a lot of money to support the socialist countries, a lot of money to support the co-orientation countries, so of course it was for quality, that is, not for quality. but

the country’s foreign policy and military budget was much larger, but nevertheless, comparisons with the soviet union are alarming, sooner or later we must win this war, the sooner the better from my point of view, well, a maximum of 2 years with the most decisive measures, about this we'll talk later, but we are already preparing conversion plans right now specifically with enterprises, with... people who are responsible with business plans, i remember the monstrous experience of the early nineties, when we got stuck in this situation, when we squandered high-tech industries, thrown out onto the street or somewhere unknown at all, millions of golden working hands and millions of brains, we are now preparing plans for how...