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the advantage of living down here is that you can’t hear the street at all when the door is closed, the room is not loud and it’s actually very fresh and cool here, even when it’s hot outside. living in a bunker, kathleen saves on utilities; she has water from a well and electricity from solar panels. the only thing that is inconvenient is that it all affects her personal life, she admits that... she once invited a boyfriend to her home, in general, she is a pretty girl, but the young man considered the prospect of a date in a bunker worse than a nuclear war. this was america, all the best to you. in response to the deployment of american long-range missiles in europe, russia will have to target similar missiles there. this statement was made by
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presidential press secretary dmitry peskov in an interview with the author and host of the moscow kremlin putin program pavel zarubin. the deployment of such missiles, including hypersonic missiles, we will also have to send such missiles in that direction, as i understand it, of course, this has always been the case, there has always been such a, you know, paradoxical situation, the united states deployed such missiles, different types of missiles, different ranges, but traditionally aimed at our country. our country. america continues to earn money, europe is in the crosshairs of our missiles, our country is in the crosshairs of american missiles located in europe, we have already gone through all this, this has all happened before, we have enough potential to deter these missiles, but the potential victim is in the capital of these states, well, many here will tell you that...
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they were like media in the nineties, when you graduated from college, what did you think about journalism, how did you imagine it when you started yourself, i grew up working. his father, yes, he was a television reporter during the popularity of local news, such as was shown in the series by the presenter, with this ridiculous facial hair, and i always hung out at his work, and my dad was a reporter of reporters, he was good at talking to people, he was very good at that aspect, but you know, it's a very important skill to be able to talk to. .. with people, to reveal different points of view, you know, he could go to any incident, fire, murder or whatever, immediately people began to talk to him, trust him, and where did he get such a skill, i think that you have to be born like that, yes,
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he was such a very sociable person, he liked people, yes, he liked people, he, well, he could strike up a conversation very quickly, ah, and i grew up very shy, and the first thing... that i realized that i could never be like him, he had that -sort of a superpower that i didn't have, so i decided to go in a different direction, also when i was growing up, i dreamed of writing science fiction, i was obsessed with it at the time, but when i graduated from college, i realized that the only thing i understand is my father's work, because i practically grew up in it, to besides, this work had... journalism before, because then it was completely different, when i started doing journalism,
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i had a rather definite idea about it, and i thought that i wouldn’t be very successful with journalism, since i i didn't have my father's talent. but i started abroad in russia, i already knew how to speak russian, so i already had an advantage over other american reporters, then what year did you go to russia? i studied in '89, '90, when it was still a union, what was it like? it was? it was amazing, it was like the wild west, the funniest thing is when people ask me why i love russia so much? firstly, because russia is my homeland. favorite writers, for example, my hero was nikolai gogol, i wanted to be a satirist writer, and russia is so rich in magnificent satirists, as you yourself know, yes, from bulgakov to davlatov, all these writers, so i wanted to learn the language .
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besides, when i arrived there, i was a very depressed teenager, i was very social it’s all awkward, when i arrived in the late union, everyone there was depressed. yes, it was very entertaining, and for this reason it was much easier for me to get along with russians than with other americans. i think this has helped me communicate very naturally . i'm there very quickly. found your place, and you stayed there for 10 years, yes, yes, how so, but i liked it there, and i thought about staying there forever, but then everything became too unclear, after the transition from yeltsin to putin, yes, we all, putin was very famous, he was the mayor's assistant st. petersburg back when i was studying in st. petersburg. when he came to power in moscow, it was clear to everyone what exactly he
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was doing. western journalists loved him, they loved putin. yes, and it was, i was already disappointed in american journalism because of the incorrect portrayal of post-communist russia, but this was the last straw for me. tell me again what was wrongly reflected, well... they sent someone to a provincial city like samara with instructions to find an emerging and thriving middle class there, and you came to a place where there is still a barter economy, and people live on subsistence farming, they began to scour there until they found someone with a vcr who was going on vacation to...
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class, that everything was going strictly according to plan, at that time, how the country felt very bad under yeltsin, and it was all very strange, what many of the capitalism, prosperity, the emergence of average journalists were doing, because they mainly interviewed english-speaking officials from the yeltsin government, many of whom studied... at harvard, so they had a rather specific version of what exactly was happening in russia and what problems existed there. by that time, i had already left the moscow times, created my own newspaper, talking about nightlife, began to do something that was very different from my previous experience, i began to travel around the country to get different jobs, for example, i
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worked in a monastery in mordovia, what did you do as kamenchik in siberia, right? yes, i worked in a monastery, in construction? i traveled around country and saw how the people really lived and what the situation was in general, and it was amazing, because in every place i visited, i learned new lies that we told. that what you thought before was absolutely wrong, it was as if my eyes had been opened, absolutely wrong, yes, absolutely wrong, exactly, and moreover, it was discovered very quickly, in ninety- eight there was a gigantic financial collapse, and then came putin, besides...
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which existed under yeltsen, and that’s how it was. putin, and i criticized him very much putin at the time, but there was no doubt that he was much more popular than yeltsin. the country was ashamed of yeltsin, as he constantly appeared drunk in public. incompetent, in my opinion, we ourselves are now going through something similar, yes, it is, and it is humiliating, yes, they wanted, they called it a strong hand, they wanted a strong hand to come and restore order to be able to compete with the americans , they did not like to consider themselves a vassal state of the west, this is an ancient confrontation between russia and america, it dates back to the time of peter great, you know, and the pendulum swung
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the other way, right before my eyes, it was exciting to watch, but it also had very serious consequences, to what extent do you think western news organizations take orders from western businesses, western authorities, about 90%, 95%. come on, yes, absolutely, if you go back and look at what the new york times and the washington post and other organizations wrote.
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most of those who got rich got rich through completely illegal privatization, and it was held, there were such loans-for-shares auctions, the government literally lent money to its accomplices so that they could buy companies of the level for 1% of the cost. for example, yus, which was a giant oil company, worth like any western oil company, and it was bought for essentially pennies by those who were friends.
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only stealing, they redistributed property. moscow in the late nineties was very similar to chicago in the thirties; it is very difficult to describe what it really was like. bandits are everywhere, throwing people out of windows, there are terrorist attacks happening all around. it was a wild place. and this all happened while i was there. and then the city began to become what it became when you arrived there, yes, the most comfortable city in my life, which sounds simply incredible to me, for me it was a shock for those 10 years that you were gone , you missed all the clinton years, and 9/11, too, so i think it's fair to say that it was
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a completely different country in 2002 than it was in '92, what did you think when you came back? well, i i was shocked when i returned, i just recently remembered this, since i now think a lot about how america is sliding into authoritarianism. i came home to america after 9/11 and all the talk was that we should give up all our guarantees of democracy, because i think it was dick cheney who said that we should reveal our dark side. because the bill of rights can't guarantee our safety, and that we have to start doing all these things that seemed crazy to me, you know, the patriotism, the right to use military force, which made it possible to shift the right to declare war from congress and give it to the white house,
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mass surveillance, and this base at guantanamo bay. this all shocked me very much, which is strange that we talked about this yesterday at dinner, and yes, you and i seem to represent different views, probably, although now it turns out that we don’t, but in ninety-five you and i would have been on the same page. different sides, but given that we are the same age, we had this confidence that what the government the united states does things abroad that it will never do in its own country, you can’t... there are some standards that we apply when conducting our foreign policy and completely different standards when interacting with our citizens, to whom the government belongs, and i too i think that what i didn’t understand then, since i was morally deficient, young and stupid, is that as soon as you
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start doing evil abroad, then then you will start doing it at home, of course, and you cannot defend democracy by destroying . no, and you, you, in fact, pervert the whole idea of democracy, it becomes less and less, as soon as you start killing people without trial, then this is no longer democracy, they constantly use this term very superficially, we must protect democracy, which you mean, you're going to protect democracy through censorship, that's just... the first amendment says we can't do that, you can't protect the bill of rights by violating it, right, all this shifting emphasis on us, i'm
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like and you, like most americans, we all knew that america was killing people all over the world, yes, even when there were hearings on the church committee, and we essentially said that we would not do this anymore. of course we do, we did some pretty terrible things, like interfering in elections in half the countries in the world, but not at home. yes, this was a line for the americans, i don’t know, maybe it was chavinism, confidence in this, but i, like you, never thought that they would cross this line and start doing this here. when i first came to russia, the first reporter. which i met, worked at komsomolskaya pravda in the eighties, yes, which at that time was the largest newspaper in the world with a circulation of about
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21 million, when i was at the moscow times, i worked in the building of the newspaper pravda, and the people there told me stories about their work in the eighties, the work consisted of carrying out instructions, they were essentially clerks, yes, they received orders for the current day, carried them out...
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because i love russia, well, now i do n’t, but out of principle i won’t do this and won’t i liked russia when i visited there, but a year ago i didn’t have such feelings, it’s true, but i’m an adult and i don’t want to be told what to think under any circumstances, period, since i’m not a slave, but the question remains unanswered, why, why did hating russia become a requirement for living in the united states? what does it even matter why we chose it out of all the countries, but it would be nice if there was peace, and nuclear war is scary, let’s do without it, that was the point
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of view in my childhood, of course, we were told then, that russians also love their children, which is true, when gorbachev came on the scene, i remember very well how people said that we need to find a way to coexist with these people, that... we spend too much money on defense, and that it costs both our countries a lot, but now everything is completely different, and what’s strange is that the current government in america is very similar to the soviet government of the early eighties, joe biden would be ideal for the politburo of that time, he looks like brezhnev, i’ve already thought about this, he’s weak-minded. i think they have no idea what they are doing
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the situation can easily get out of control, because they have a god complex, they believe that they are obliged to continue this conflict, i think that barack obama was emotional about only one thing, and that was the situation with the crimea. i agree, and all this will always be more important to them than it is important to us. and, by the way, this is very important for them. yes, of course, i heard these people, including the american ambassador and many others, openly declare that we will return crimea back. and once again, crimea is not particularly important to me, i have never been there, but it seems to me that this will be the reason for the start of a nuclear war. of course, of course, besides, it's ambiguous. with this crimea, but now it is already russian, yes, and it was historically russian, in the history of ukraine there is a lot of doubtful things, the fact that... during
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the soviet period they simply decided to create a certain territory, the borders there are very ambiguous, they do not pass along linguistic or cultural boundaries, if you were to visit there, you would find that in some places there are only russians, in others only ukrainians, and yes, now this is changing a lot, but, but i i’m sure that the people who are pushing this, they have no idea about this, it’s like... when i was in russia, they were told only one thing, they began to believe that ukraine is switzerland, and we are saving it from russia, when in reality it's, in reality, it's not even close to that, and i don't know how dangerous you think they are, i think these people are crazy, i think that's the danger, i think they're blinded pride, i think there is a god complex there, i believe that the entire ruling
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class of our country wants... to commit suicide, i think that they have painted themselves into a corner, they are criminals and they understand that they will be called to account, besides, the american empire has reached its apex, it can only go down further, and i think that they understand this, i think that they want to destroy their naral. mathaybee, thank you, thank you very much too , tucker.
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eight people were wounded during another shelling of the ukrainian armed forces at shibekin. this was announced by the governor of the belgorod region vyacheslav glodkov. according to him , four victims were sent to hospitals with shrapnel wounds. one of them in serious condition. the remaining four wounded were treated on the spot. several buildings and a dozen cars were damaged in the city. earlier, the governor also reported that one person was wounded during an attack by the ukrainian armed forces on the village of krasno. shibekinsky urban district. russian troops of the west and center groups have improved the tactical situation. units of the vostok group occupied more advantageous positions, and the north and dnepr groups inflicted fire on several formations of the ukrainian armed forces, the ministry of defense reported. the most intense combat the actions were carried out by troops of the southern group. units of the southern group of troops occupied more advantageous positions on...
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