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you grew up in journalism, now journalism is the most hated profession, what not baselessly, even the sackler family is currently more loved than nbc, for sure, and even congress is more loved, yes, even congress, yes, people are like, you know, maybe this pedophile can still be corrected, it’s not necessary to shoot him, but here’s nbc news, and i 'm sure this is a difficult situation for you, but, but for those who no longer remember what the media was like in the nineties... when you graduated from college, what did you think about journalism, what did you think of it? did you imagine it when you started? i grew up with my father's work, yes he was a tv reporter in the days of local news, like the one on anchorman, with that ridiculous facial hair, and i always hung out at his work, and my dad was a reporter of reporters, he was good at anchoring. conversations with people, he was very good

in this aspect, but you know, this is a very important skill, to be able to talk with people, to reveal different points of view, you know, he could go... to any incident, fire, murder or whatever , immediately people began to talk to him, trust him, and where did he get such a skill, i think that you have to be born like that, yes, he was such a very sociable person, he liked people, yes, he liked people, he, but he could start a conversation very quickly, and i grew up very shy, and the first thing i realized was that i could never be like him, he had something. kind of a superpower that i didn't have, so i decided to go in a different direction, also, when i was growing up, i dreamed of writing science fiction, i was obsessed with it at the time, but when i graduated from college, i i realized that the only thing i

understand is my father's work, because i practically grew up in it, besides, this work had something to do with writing, so... i took it up, only over time did i truly appreciate the way they did journalism before, because then it was completely different, when i started doing journalism, i had a fairly definite idea about it, and i thought that i wouldn’t be very good at journalism, since i didn’t have my father's talent, but i started abroad in russia. i already knew how speak russian, so i already had an advantage over other american reporters, then what year did you go to russia? i studied in '89, '90, when it was still a union, what was it like? it was amazing, it was

like the wild west. the funniest thing is when people ask me why i love russia so much? firstly, because russia is the birthplace of my favorite writers. for example, my hero was nikolai goga. i wanted to be a satirical writer, and russia is so rich in magnificent satirists, as you yourself know , yes, from bulgakov to davlatov, all these writers, so i wanted to learn the language, besides, when i arrived there, i was a very depressed teenager, i was very socially awkward and all that , when i arrived in the late soviet union, everyone there was depressed, yes, it was very interesting,

when he came to power in moscow, it was clear to everyone what exactly he was doing, western journalists loved him, loved putin, yes, and that was, i was already disappointed in american journalism because of the wrong display.

capitalism, prosperity, the emergence of a middle class, that everything was going strictly according to plan, while the country under yeltsen felt very bad, and it was all very strange, something that many of...

that strongly different from my previous experience, i started traveling around the country to get different jobs, for example, i worked as a kamenchik in siberia, right? yes, i... worked in a monastery in mordovia, what did you do in the monastery, construction? i traveled around the country and saw how the people really lived and what the situation was as a whole, and it was amazing, because in every place i went, i learned new lies that we were telling to the americans, it was as if the blinders had fallen from my eyes. i know you've had a similar experience in journalism, when you discover that what you thought before

was absolutely wrong, it was as if my eyes were opened, absolutely wrong, yes, absolutely wrong, exactly, and what's more, this was discovered very quickly, in 1998 there was a gigantic financial collapse, and then putin came, by that time the people had already so tired of this... american-like version of managed democracy that existed under yeltsen, and that's how it was, putin, and i was very critical of putin at the time, but there was no doubt that he was much more popular than yeltsin, the country was i’m ashamed of yeltsin, since he constantly appeared drunk in public, incompetent, in my opinion, we ourselves are now going through something similar. so it is, and it's humiliating, yes, they wanted, they called it a strong hand, they

wanted a strong hand to come order, was able to compete with the americans, they did not like to consider themselves a state vassal of the west, this is an ancient confrontation between russia and america, it dates back to the times of peter the great, you know, slavophiles against westerners, against... and about westerners, and the pendulum swung to the other side, right before my eyes, it was exciting to watch, but it also had very serious consequences. to what extent do you think western news organizations take orders from western businesses and western governments? oh, 90%, 95%. yes okay, yes, absolutely, if you go back. and look at what the new york times and

the washington post and other organizations wrote, the current deputy prime minister of canada, chrystia freeland, was my colleague at the time, she was part of this clique of western journalists, and what she was like, but they all said about the same thing and same, the main idea was that a new group of capitalist robber barons had emerged. and yes, it was bad, it was a bad transition to capitalism, that’s how they wrote about it, although in fact, it was pure banditry, most of those who got rich got rich through completely illegal privatization, and it was carried out, there were such loans-for-shares auctions, the government literally lent money to its accomplices so that they could buy companies of the exxon level for 1% of the cost, for example, which was gigantic. an oil company worth like any western oil company, and it was bought

for essentially pennies by those who were friends of the people in power, they instantly created a class of billionaires, but that’s not what not a single journalist wrote, and then, when these people had money, they began to be treated as real production workers. yes, exactly, they weren’t even robber barons, they at least built railways, exactly, yes, these guys only knew how to steal, they redistributed property. moscow in the late nineties was very similar to chicago in the thirties, it is very difficult to describe what it really was like, bandits are everywhere, people are thrown out of windows, things are happening all around. terrorist attacks, it was a wild place,

and all this happened when i was there, and then the city began to become what it became when you arrived there, yes, the most comfortable city in my life, which for me sounds simply incredible, for me it was a shock , in the 10 years that you were gone, you missed all the clinton years, and 9/11, too, so i think it's fair. to say that in 2002 it was already a completely different country than in 1992, what did you think when you returned? well i was shocked when i came back. i was just recently thinking about this, because i now think a lot about the fact that america is sliding into authoritarianism. i came home to america after 9/11, all the talk was about how we should give up all our guarantees of democracy, because i think dick cheney said it, that we should reveal

our dark side, because the bill of rights can not. what’s strange is that we talked about this yesterday at dinner, and yes, you and i seem to represent different views, probably, although now it turns out that we don’t, but at ninety fifth year, you and i would have been on opposite sides, but given that we are the same age, we had this confidence that what the us government does abroad, it

will never do in its own country, you cannot treat american citizens like they're some kind of, you know. houthis, there are some standards that we apply in conducting our foreign policy and completely different standards when interacting with our citizens, to whom the government belongs. yes, yes, and i think what am i i didn’t understand then, since i was morally deficient, young and stupid, that as soon as you start doing evil abroad, then then you will start doing it at home, of course, and you cannot defend democracy by destroying democracy, no, and you you... you essentially pervert the whole idea of ​​democracy, it becomes less and less, as soon as you start killing people without trial, then this is no longer democracy, they constantly use this term very superficially, we must defend democracy, what do you have mean you

are you going to protect democracy through censorship, this is exactly the issue that i have been dealing with for the last 2 years. if this is what you mean, then it contradicts the very idea. in what sense is it contradictory? well, the first amendment says we can't do that. you can't protect the bill of rights by violating it. right. and all this change of emphasis on us, i, like you, like most americans, we all knew that america kills.

i thought that they would cross this line and start doing it here. when i first arrived in russia, the first reporters i met, worked at komsomolskaya pravda in the eighties, yes, which at that time was the largest newspaper in the world with a circulation of about 21 million. and when i was at the moscow times, i worked in the building of the pravda newspaper, and people there told me stories about his work in the eighties. the job was to carry out instructions, they were essentially clerks, yes, they received orders for the day, carried them out, and then went home to their wives, on weekends, went fishing, there was no intellectual work, you didn’t could do anything like that, it would be dangerous for your health if you did that, and this is what

journalism has now become in america, just look at this situation with the nord stream, just. as an example, a situation occurred, then there was no investigation at all in any of the leading publications, how could this be, because this is such an important event that could lead to the start of a war with a nuclear power, and it also destroyed the economy of western europe, and this is also a major environmental disaster, which is what you're talking about worry, this was the largest carbon dioxide emission in history, that is, in the heads of... all these people, russia is the center of it all, from my point of view, as someone who was never interested in russia, you suddenly wake up one day 25 years after the end of the cold war. i realize that now i should hate russia, but i won’t do this out of principle and not because i love russia, well, now i already like russia when i visited there, but a year ago i didn’t have such feelings, that’s right, but

i'm an adult and i don't want to be told what to think under any circumstances, period, since i'm not a slave, but the unanswered question remains why, why did hating russia become a requirement for living in the united states, what does it even matter, why did we choose out of all the countries? but it would be nice if there was peace, and nuclear war is scary, let’s do without it, that was the point of view in my childhood, of course, we were told then that russians also love their children, which is true when gorbachev came on the scene then i i remember very well how people said that we need to find a way to coexist with these people, that we are spending too much money. for defense, and that it costs both our countries a lot, but now everything is completely different, and what is strange is that the current government in america is very

similar to the soviet government of the early eighties, joe biden would be ideal for the politburo of that time, he is similar to brezhnev, i already thought about this, he is a weak-minded, old, physically frail leader, yes, who... and in office only because has not died yet, and i think that they have no idea what they are doing, the situation could easily get out of control, because they have a god complex, they believe that they are obliged to continue this conflict, i think for only one reason barack obama experienced emotions, this is due to the situation with crimea, i agree, and all this will always be more important for them. why is this important for us, and, by the way, for them it is very important, yes, of course, i heard these people, including the american ambassador and many others, openly declare that we will return crimea back, and more

again, crimea is not particularly important to me, i have never been there, but it seems to me that this will become a reason for starting a nuclear war, of course, of course, besides, this is an ambiguous situation with this crimea, but now it is... already russian, yes, and he was historically russian, yes, in the history of ukraine there is a lot of questionable things, the fact that they were given, during the soviet period, they simply decided to create a certain territory, the borders there are very ambiguous, they do not follow linguistic or cultural boundaries, if if you were to visit there, you would find that in some places there are only russians, in others only ukrainians, and yes, now... it's changing a lot, but, but i'm sure that the people who are pushing this, they have no idea about it, it's like when i was in russia, they were only told one thing,

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