in the three ninth kingdom, the three tenth state. let's translate from official language into understandable language, everything is not so scary if there is an instruction.

and again vladivostok, again the eastern economic forum my colleague georgy podgorny is ready to give an interview to the minister of natural resources and ecology alexander kozlov, vladivostok, we are listening to you attentively. yes, tatyana, i welcome you again, we will not delay for a minute. hello, thank you very much for becoming a guest. our studio, first of all, you have just returned from mongolia, where you are, among other things co-chairman of the intergovernmental commission, here are the results of, well, the presidential trip, what are our future projects in mongolia, what plans are we making, what are we counting on, good afternoon, yes, in fact, we returned from mongolia a few hours ago, what i can say is that our trade turnover is growing from january to july, compared to last year, this is plus 20%. and

if in monetary terms - this is almost one and a half billion dollars, promising projects that connect us, these are, of course, energy projects, logistics, within the framework of during vladimir vladimirovich putin's visit , important agreements were signed between our countries, one of the important ones is to ensure fuel supplies, because we are guaranteed suppliers of diesel fuel, gasoline in mongolia, more than 90%, 96, if i'm not mistaken. and for the mongolian side it is very important, within the framework of this supply we will also provide aviation fuel to the logistics hub of the city of ulaanbaatar, we concluded an agreement on the design of tpp-3, which the city of ulaanbaatar needs so much, in connection with the prospect of its development, with modernization, our company interao has done a lot of work in this direction. and i am sure that the design

that will be provided to the mongolian side, it will be at the proper level. of course, the issues of the logistics chain, you know that mongolia connects us with china, the railway, which has a long history, and was recently awarded high state awards by the president of mongolia, it is - in principle, today within the framework of its transportation, this is more than 30 million tons, is ready to continue to carry out transportation, this is to reach 50 million tons by the thirtieth year, and then 60 million tons later, this requires certain strategic decisions, this is an increase in railway lines, including directions through china, mongolia, russia, well, it seems that everyone is set for this work. yes, we, the triple alliance, china,

mongolia and russia, assume the preparation of strategic projects by the end of the year, we count more than thirty of them, which will connect our countries joint development and within the framework of which we will work, well and of course, we are waiting for the signing of mongolia's accession to eurozes, which will allow more than 375 groups of goods

- so that solid municipal waste produced by humans, more than 40 million tons per year, is not buried and does not become future problems for our children and grandchildren, but should be put into secondary circulation, because we are urgently leaving these problems

for them, unfortunately, our task is to create new capacities so that they process, sort and, most importantly , put this, well, let's say, into secondary circulation. for the acquisition of new equipment and machinery to reduce the area of ​​forest fires, support - the preservation of biodiversity of some animals, which, unfortunately, are classified as the first category of the red book, these are 17 species

of such, all these projects, clean air require special attention at the state level and support from the federal center, because, unfortunately, some regions...

we are confident that this support at the presidential level will be provided, because the state program for geological exploration, which exists today, it assumes geological exploration throughout the country, we need to focus attention, including on two districts, such as siberia, the far east, because i will give you some figures, the exploration of these districts is no more than 35-45%, what is exploration, that is , this difference to 100 - where we can still give something useful to our country today, and there what will it be, gold, silver, uranium or some other types, but we need to know, so that future generations understand how great these opportunities are for our country and guarantees

sovereignty and security of the country in the future, this is the priority of our work, including with the ecological, unexplored potential that lies ahead, this. this is the future economic base of our country, because subsoil use from the point of view of taxes, jobs of the country, but this is the base. in the end , a pressing question that i cannot help but ask: how are we going through the fire season now, how does the menrod evaluate this work? this year is difficult for us in terms of climate, we have observed abnormal heat, but i believe that colleagues have passed it with dignity, i especially wanted i would like to thank the leaders of krasnoyarsk krai, irkutsk oblast, buryat, if these regions had flared up, then the damage to the economy in the forestry sector would have been very large, because the forest fund...

well, these regions are traditional for us, but at the same time, colleagues are coping with their work , taking into account the climate agenda that has developed today, i believe that they are doing this work with dignity, we had to... mobilize, that in one of the regions , up to 3,500 people were involved in services from other regions per day, they worked for in order to prevent the spread of fires. i propose to put an end to this, i wish you a rich forum. in the studio , we give you the floor, the head of the ministry of natural resources alexander kozlov spoke with us. georgy, thank you and your guest. my colleague georgy podgorny is working on the sidelines of the forum. now the broadcast from vladivostok at the site of the economic forum begins a discussion on the topic of digitalization of public administration

and the data economy in the competitive year within the framework of the program and what businesses need to do, what what does the state need to do to achieve such high specific indicators? good dayho.

the program that is being discussed today, which will be adopted in the near future, digital infrastructure occupies a worthy place, and it is also obvious that once upon a time in the no digital world it is obvious that in our country the internet appeared not because there was a state program internet or digital infrastructure, but the internet appeared because...

our country is constantly sliding lower and lower in quality and speed every year internet, in the fixed-line business, which our company ertelecom is engaged in, we are somewhere in sixty-sixth place, in the mobile business in terms of quality and speed of the internet, we have already crossed the 100 mark, that is, hundredths, 100, 110, 111. why am i saying this, i am not saying, i do not want to say how bad it is, i want to say that... if we do not change our attitude towards infrastructure, if we do not ensure

the accelerated development of infrastructure, then it is obvious that very soon we will run into the fact that the best technological solutions, the best programs and software, the best government services, it will simply be impossible to implement them, because conjunctivitis or in russian communication, it is the basis for all this to work. in addition, in addition to communication lines, we also need to build data centers, we are clearly lagging behind in the number of data centers, therefore, since i am given little time, i think so.

in recent years, there has been rapid import substitution for many types of computer equipment for security systems and today all large companies with state participation actively buy from you from your colleagues in the shop and i can testify that this is a cool reliable

solution nevertheless the private sector and individuals still here how do you see your way to the heart of such purely market buyers in order to buy aquarius equipment was also honorable, convenient, reliable and high-quality, as today the solution looks like there large global vendors. good day to all. by the way, i wanted to say, we bought the first batch of aquarius computers. andrey, thank you. in fact, mikhail, thank you very much, i am very glad to hear kind words, and this is probably the first sign that attention to domestic hardware has finally begun to have a positive connotation,

we have been waiting for this for a long time, even watching today's slides, we see that... use, were left without support, that is , worthwhile vendors, foreign ones stood up and left, in general, everyone understood what this means, what the situation means when we rely only on what is on the other side of the border, which can happen in one moment, that's it, all the companies have stayed here, and i am really glad to note that all

the domestic companies, commercial ones, those very ones, including the leading ones... all the companies are paying attention to domestic solutions , they have finally started a dialogue, yes, something that probably didn't exist until 2022, something that we have all always strived for, everyone who was involved in domestic developments, domestic production, the dialogue has finally started, and these are the most demanding, the most capricious in a good sense customers, who are finally ready to tell us what they think about what problems they have, what plans they have, uh, to hear what technologies the country will have in some time, so it 's worth a lot.

these closed borders, to bring, to buy imports, in general, here in our country everyone is following, for some reason recently, probably, before they didn't follow the news from the central bank, everyone is thinking about how much it costs, so to speak, commercial money to attract them to use in their own development in creating their own product lines and products, abroad it costs to put it mildly, less, many times less, and this is certainly...

goals, it seems to me, more precisely, on the way to this

goal, our platforms, all that are digital, and right now are in the best secure solutions, so to achieve this rating in the top ten, that is, we have the best digital platforms, you can look at any world rating, this is exactly so, and for us it is desirable that... those conditions in which these digital platforms developed, remained no lower than before, now who are we regulating, yes, that such a marketplace and not a marketplace, there are quite a lot of digital platforms, when we talk about any regulation, for some reason we always think about the commodity market, this is not always the case, there are marketplaces, there are taxi aggregators, there are classifieds, those same large bulletin boards where you can find anything, and there are social networks, there is, excuse me, even a search, you can somehow... relate to this story, and at the same time we are all so different that making general regulation for us for all - this is probably something to change, something to break somewhere, we have such a large

palette of digital ecosystems, digital platforms that we need to work with, what are their operating principles, that is, where do they earn money, how do they differ or coincide, here too everything is quite simple and there is a global difference, or such platforms. transactional, what are we talking about, the platform participates in the transaction, participates in the distribution of the value from the transaction, the second story is when the platforms are not transactional, their the main issue is monetization, yes, that is, they use two other elements of earnings, this is advertising promotion, this is such a big watershed. who are you? i, a traveler, aeronaut, jean ivan. oh, so, we are coming out namesakes. what a fairy tale,

without ivan. uh, uh, what started, without deception and without flint, the villain locked me in the flint, a pen, self-written, ink, magic, get it, you are the main one, vanya, hurry up, so give me a horse, a mechanical one, and beat yourself on the head, you have a cage, where it is necessary, that's what my name is, because i am not taking there, yes, you're a fool, you want to go where you need to, i can't live, without travel, flint, he who has flint in his pocket doesn't need a pen, soon.

my suggestion is to lead this movement, nothing moves under a lying stone, here we, as telecom operators, have also gone this way, once all this was born, then the state began to pay more and more attention, therefore. it is better to come out with initiatives now in order to try to find a golden mean and the necessary compromise, especially since you and your colleagues have all the resources, the national project pays great attention attention is paid to training personnel, education, here in recent years such an unusual situation has also developed, any large respected

company...

i would like to note that in the national project there is a task to train it specialists, which we seem to have learned to train in the country since the nineties, the question now is how to make them so that they do not need to be further trained, and here it is clear that it is necessary for the industry, together with universities , to come to universities already in the process of training, to be included in the educational process.