vladivostok is the capital of the business world these days, the attention of leading financiers is riveted to the discussions at the eastern economic forum. today is the third day of work - this is the culmination of the entire event. the key event is vladimir putin's speech at the plenary session. the president, as is tradition, will assess the situation in the russian and global economy. our colleague will be the moderator of the plenary session of the ef this year.

this is very right robert mirzayan, ceo of rvb group rus, member of the coordinating council of the general councils all-russian public organization delovaya rossiya, roman chakushov, state secretary, deputy minister of industry and trade of the russian federation, kirill dmitriev, head of the russian direct investment fund. andrey sharonov, chairman of the supervisory board of the association. digital platforms, artem sokolov, president of the association of internet trade companies. our esteemed friends, partner from china, hezhen wei, chairman of the china association for overseas enterprise development and zhou liuqin, chairman of the council of chinese entrepreneurs in russia, mikhail khomich, chief strategist of the all-russian party of the russian federation, director of special projects at the agency for strategic initiatives. dmitry is with us remotely.

are, we will spend the next hour and a half in such an authoritative composition, i can’t say that this is too much, an hour and a half for such and such a topic , of course we need to fit it on these screens that are in front of them , so that everyone says what they want, and how to still reveal the topic, it is important for us not to checkerboard, but to go as ... they say, i will start today not from the state institutions to business, on the contrary, from business, so to speak, to state institutions , well, firstly, because the topic is platform and, accordingly, we need to hear from representatives of the marketplace platform what they think about everything that is happening, so i will probably start with tatyana vladimirovna, if she does not mind, well , so to speak, for the uninitiated, for those who do not really understand, here is the unification.

we do not consider these giants, but we believe that we have a very good chance of winning, well, the platform economy, i i think that this is generally, i don’t know if i’m using the right word or not, there is currently an epic development of the economy in the world, in my

understanding this is generally the best thing that could happen to the world economy, because the platform... the economy is transparency, it is huge potential and growth for all participants in this economy, and for consumers, and for those who are, accordingly, both drivers and, so to speak, sellers or producers of services or goods, this is a huge, good story for the state, and in general, in principle, any the industry that is affected by the platform economy in one way or another, it gets a huge boost for development, i actually started saying a year or two ago that i can just write poems and sing songs about platforms there, because i think that

it is a really good, very correct, very fair story, i also like the word platform, because for me a platform means balance, when... we have been repeatedly accused of, well, i don’t know, playing a game there, that the big ones offend the small ones, i always said, that this is not so, and that we should be treated not as online retail, yes , an alternative version of offline stores or huge shopping centers, but as a platform, as a certain tool that is designed to maintain the balance of all participants in the platform, we have...

and banking organizations, but also traditional retailers, they even get offended when they are now called offline and offline stores, yes, because behind each of each large company now stands bigdta, stands machine learning, stands all sorts of different digital stories, yes, that is... every company now says that it is actually a digital company now, and so it's a little complicated, our question was about what, what prospects does it offer, how can we now

use the full potential of these marketplaces in the asia-pacific region, well, and, probably, you can better say there how to interact with business representatives, how... how you need to interact with platform businesses - how useful is it for business today, what is it today represents a marketplace, it's not just online trading, well, we 've never really called ourselves a marketplace, and even back in our time - ours, when we were small, relatively small, and there were no digital platforms, i still didn't like this word, because a market place is a kind of showcase where goods and services are presented, and... well, uh, actually, and i've always said that no, that's wrong, look at wikipedia, we're still not a marketplace, we're an online store, well or i don’t know, there’s some kind of, yes, and online retail, now - after some time, yes, one could say that we have become in

some part a marketplace, because in addition to the goods that are placed in our warehouse complexes, we began to present our platform for any, seller of services or goods, so far only goods, but now in the near future there will also be services, so - and there was some period when i agreed that yes, we are a marketplace, but now, as it were... i also again protest against the application to us of this word, because i think that we have very quickly passed this stage, we really are a platform, because well, again i repeat, we are a site where the interests of all participants meet, and we are, in my understanding, a kind of, well, a balancer, yes, who tries.

we watch movies, communicate, play, listen to music, read, study, and go to bed with these gadgets too, so here , as it were, we should probably talk about how to interact with this at all, it is clear that there are both advantages and

minuses, i already said about the pluses, the minuses are a and in the same way people are worried there about the fact that they provide their personal data, and or, well, this is what concerns the consumer, yes, if it concerns business, and many are worried that large companies accumulate knowledge. about their sales, of course, we have all the information, all the digital traces and about consumers, and about our partners, they are afraid that we will somehow try to use this against them, but there are no concerns here it must be, i think that you know, with the growth of business, any business also becomes wiser, matures, and...

we really like what they have built,

yes, in the image of some systems there or structures that are successfully used by our chinese colleagues, we are now also planning to launch new opportunities for the development of small and medium-sized businesses in the country in the near future, to put it on a more professional basis, that is, in my understanding, to be afraid to interact with platforms. users, well, of course, you understand, how much responsibility

this whole story places on you, and well, and as experience shows again, let's say, the interaction of the state with companies like ours in other countries, the state also understands this story very well and well, it's not that it's trying to regulate, but somehow that is... it seems to me that all participants in the platform economy market, they understand that the state is also not asleep, it is also developing, it is also moving to digital, just as if... business is growing, it is growing and the state, and as if here, well, that is, as if it also becomes a participant in the digital ecosystem, and accordingly it has all the levers, influences there on such large platforms, it seems to me that it is too late to be afraid to interact with platforms, because well, they already exist, you can’t do anything without them, robert geor’evich,

then i have a question for you, you also don’t like the marketplace definition, and then you tell us. another story, this is essentially a set of tools that we offer to our partners, we offer services in the form of warehousing, logistics, financial services, we offer advertising on our platform, that is, in essence, you know, a constructor that allows businesses to do business,

to develop it on this platform, in this sense, of course, this is a whole, you know , such a world that is being formed for entrepreneurs in general all over the world, in particular in russia, and along with this, this is certainly a very effective tool for regulation from the point of view of the development of those companies that are present in particular on our platform, we a... you know, we look at the situation carefully and we see that we see that imported products, they are already becoming more and more difficult to work with, in this sense , we have already made a decision within our group that the task is to provide maximum support to our manufacturers, namely russian

manufacturers, through our digital platform. this is a super tool in fact, which allows us to implement this, what does it mean to provide support, it is clear that just like retail, also, well, conditionally, these our digital platforms or as you say marketplaces, they work there on some tariffs for logistics, warehousing, advertising and something else, we made a decision. that for our russian producers we will make special conditions for reducing tariffs for the services that our platform provides, it is important, you know, and the reduction is significant, so that this would really be the support that will allow us to develop,

develop our russian producers... producers, and you know, we, when we look back a little, we look at the same imported products that our consumers, well, are used to, yes, we see that the brands, the brands that we are used to using, they were actually supported at one time by western and our own, well, in western countries, actually we... forgot about the fact that we are obliged to support our, our russian brands, and in this sense , our platform has all the tools, both online and offline, namely, increasing awareness of our russian brand, in this sense we will do a lot of work, we have already

and we make products, we already see some results in such a short time, it is important that... our russian producers will be and not only there to their advantage, but also a big big role will be played by large companies, which we will begin to support today.

we are confident that in this sense the state will support us from the point of view of duties, so to speak, which will be necessary, in general, in general we believe that the digital platform is a big step into a big future for the russian federation, thank you. i completely agree with you, let us ask the government will support large platforms, i will address kraman andreevich chakshov from the secretary

of the deputy minister of industry and trade of the russian federation, i like how the owners of the marketplace, after all, do not want to call it a toilet, so what they head is a marketplace, i apologize, as a person in the information field, i am for terminology, and you as the owners of the largest business, so to speak, in this direction, you are of course free to call it. as you want, but i will ask, what tools, accordingly, are now in demand for medium-sized businesses thanks to such platforms as an effective tool, and how does the state see the role of such platforms, how it promotes here, actually everything that can actually be done with the help of such platforms, well, if we formulate it so globally, that is our state task here, yes, dear colleagues, good morning to all. let me try to briefly outline and answer the questions that you have already outlined, well and there maybe we should stop at some points, where we see priorities in the issues

of interaction with our, let's call them digital platforms, but in fact i'll start with the fact that the terminology is not fundamental, it seems that we need to regulate there, call things by their proper names, this is not the main thing, what seems important to us in further work? there support, regulation, the first is clear that this is already a whole industry, a whole sector of the economy, since it explains itself, well, of course, trade relations, because in the first place we come to the platform to buy a product, and the seller comes to sell it, so we proceed from the fact that of course, on this platform, well, we are now taking, we have different platforms, there are those that provide services, there are those that provide services, but in general we are talking now about one way or another trading platforms. at the same time, of course, the topic is much more multifaceted, because today both tatyana and robert have already said that this is primarily about providing a service for everyone

participants, and this is a topic related to consumer protection, this topic is certainly related to it services and resources, so here a multi-level multi-industry entity arises, which certainly cannot... be regulated or over-regulated, god forbid, equally with the market participants. the second thing i wanted to say is that, uh, what is important for us in this whole process, we approach this very carefully, because the most important thing for us is to provide support sooner than there somehow, there to regulate this process, why? because well, according to various estimates, rosstat looks at the growth of trade, exactly. on digital platforms, there artem, probably sokolov will also give his estimates, but in general everyone agrees that in the first half of the year there is about 40% growth, compared to the same period last year,

for the year there we expect - by 50 percent growth, and the share in principle of trade on digital platforms, it is growing and there, according to various estimates, already amounts to up to a quarter of the total volume of trade that occurs every day in our country, therefore... the priority for us is certainly the expansion of services to absolutely all subjects of the russian federation, to all citizens, so that there is equal access to such platforms, therefore we will definitely absolutely support and will guide all market participants in order to maximize the scale of pick-up points for orders, the possibility of access to services throughout the territory of our great russian federation, the second is what is actually already being observed, the second is a question the ability of the consumer to actually interact with the seller in the same way as he does when he normally buys a product,

that is, this is a quality requirement. the ability to return the product, the ability to get your money back if the product does not meet mandatory requirements, and thirdly, which is very important, because our platforms now play a very big role in the development of logistics infrastructure, warehouse infrastructure in the regions, many governors also talk about this, that entire logistics platforms are being created, which certainly attract... workers, these are jobs, these are taxes, this is transport accessibility, therefore it is important to support the development of this infrastructure, as for support measures, i will also answer right away, historically, in general, the trade sphere , in general, i mean traditional retail, and online retail, it has never been stimulated by any financial measures, well, since

the focus was. the state to support the manufacturer, we have already talked about this today, this is small and medium-sized enterprises, this is support for special industries industry, the president set the task of developing new products, these are national projects of technological leadership, this is the focus, why? because trade in principle has always developed dynamically, well, quite qualitatively, independently, so here our task is not to harm rather than to provide some kind of preferential regime, but what is important, probably, there is the last point, which... i would like to point out that for us the focus is also that our digital platforms stimulate the export of those goods, and which most likely without the participation of these e -commerce platform tools simply will not enter these markets, why? because he does not have a marketing service, he does not have a representative in the market where he wants to sell it, he cannot reach the consumer, he

does not have... logistics infrastructure, most likely, if he starts to create all this and stimulate the sale of goods on the foreign market, then he will not be competitive due to the fact that the price of this product will increase many times over and will lose competitors who produce goods on those sites, therefore - of course, this is a huge opportunity for export, and we - with colleagues , including with wildberries, have been discussing there more than once how to support the possibility of development. and logistics infrastructure abroad , specifically, in order to distribute services for our producers as much as possible, i mean, first of all, we are here to protect them so that they can reach this market and stimulate the development of cross-border trade for the development of new markets, because we also have the task of increasing exports, well, briefly, probably in this way, well and imports too, well, as i understand, that we produce our own, we want more of our own, but this is also a form, so

to speak. i am saying that our focus is to support our producers first and foremost, therefore we do not limit imports in any way, but we do not stimulate them either, and i am here talking about state policy, like, well, leveling the effect of sanctions and so on, okay, we agreed here, then let's see on international experience, i would like to now include in our conversation the respected zhou liucini, a representative of the union of chinese entrepreneurs in russia,

i would like to ask the following question... friends, the prospect for.