said, thank you colleagues, thank you very much, well , we are ready for competition, because at the beginning you said that they need to help talents, i agree, talent needs to be helped, mediocrity will break through on its own, it's like we have a saying in russia, well, if they need help, they are competitive in general, well , look, i may not have the most beautiful answer here, we are ready for competition, brands, well, that's what competition is for, you understand, those who are not ready, they are not ready, those who are ready will break through and will represent russia in foreign markets, we we will continue to be proud of them, it is logical, it is also logical, then let's, let 's talk about russian manufacturers, about russian companies, artem sokolov, president of the internet trade association, i would probably turn to him with a question now, to what extent, well, for you as an industry organization, yes, which represents players...

we have 80 million smartphones constantly hanging in cellular networks, and 70 million of them, with 70 million of them, some kind of purchases are constantly made on the internet, by the way, with an enviable regularity, we just did the half-year analysis, we saw another growth, it's 41%, if you compare the half-year of 2024 to 2023, if any of our colleagues have higher growth, we

are only happy about these successes, it really is higher, it deserves, in my opinion, well, really, such praise, probably, and we have a very large audience, this is all the first factor, the second indisputable factor is the colossal investments, the colossal investments that our colleagues are making in logistics the infrastructure they invest in the construction of distribution centers is hundreds of billions of rubles. this is the only way it can work and no other way. indeed, the concept of a digital platform in itself, today we are discussing the difference between these concepts, it is much broader than the concept of a marketplace. and indeed, in our association there are digital platforms, and marketplaces, service aggregators and online stores, all these are completely different business models. and i often hear the misconception that all these digital entities are in a kind of digital vacuum, there is no legal regulation there, this is all completely wrong. if we

look at the commodity market, then of course all the legislation that exists in trade applies to such entities, for example, requirements for labeling, cash register equipment, advertising, consumer protection, if these are categories limited in circulation, there specific requirements come into force, for example, on the circulation of medicines, precious metals and stones, if these are export-import operations, then this supranational legislation, in general the platform works with a large number of consumers - these are different consumers, this is also... this is also people, it really always looks for a balance between them, but it must comply with the legislation on personal data, the legislation on intellectual property and in general, the platform itself bears civil, administrative and even criminal liability, so if someone thinks that all this does not exist, no, this is not so, this is really a very seriously composed regulation, moreover, if you look at how this happens in different countries of the world, for example, there are countries in which there are

separate laws on platforms, and there are countries in which regulation is permeated through different layers and through different, so to speak, industry-specific - legislation, here we have just the second example, and frankly speaking, here there was such a request about how to regulate all this, in my opinion, there may be two levels of regulation here, the first is antitrust regulation, and there should be fair competition between the platforms themselves, within these platforms, this is the key to success that the buyer will always... receive the best offer, the second level is industry-specific, it depends on what specific activity the platform itself is engaged in. the platform can have many different businesses, what tatyana talked about, what robert talked about, this is a really huge range of different services that it provides. and the platform has its own specifics, if it, for example, sells airline tickets, it does not necessarily have to become an airline if it offers you different selections - by

the cost of loans or mortgages, it does not necessarily have to become a bank if it offers you various accommodations, but it does not have to become a hotel, with the commodity market, everything is absolutely identical. if the platform offers you information about goods or services, it does not have to become a seller of these goods, well, this is completely obvious, and of course, any site that carries out such activities should strive to ensure that these activities are carried out on it by bona fide players and in good faith, of course, each participant of this platform should have the opportunity to fulfill all the requirements of the legislation in the area in which it operates, the platform. should create all the conditions so that this participant could also comply with this legislation, he had all the conditions for him to be able to do this, therefore it is completely normal when, so to speak, we have each of these industries there is a regulator, there is a department for trade development in tourism,

the central bank is in charge of financial transactions, the ministry of industry and trade is in charge of relations on the commodity market, and my colleagues and i have been in... logs in this part for quite a long time, i must say that, probably, this is really such a problematic starting point, which, well , entailed a certain discussion regarding regulation, it was rather a problem of the lack of established business practices, they were formed spontaneously, really on here as we develop so extensively, the rules of the game are being laid down as we go. and at one time, roman andreevich and i got together with colleagues from the ministry of industry and trade, and formed a whole set of such standards, business practices, which, by the way, all our platforms now follow, we agreed on these business practices, and you won’t even believe how many questions we have removed, without waiting

for any special law or special regulation, simply within the framework of what we have now. what in the world? if you look at the world as a whole, there is, probably, such two opposite examples. if we take the states, there probably was a little bit of a delay in antitrust regulation, their amazon took such an overwhelming share of the market there, if we take china and look at how collectibles platforms are developing, then there is a completely different picture, there is ethymol and gdcom and tencent, which has a huge number of different businesses, and taabau pyundo, that is, each of these companies takes about 15-17 there 18% of the market and this... competition constantly spurs them on new development, well, of course , we need to look at china's experience carefully, because we have our own path in general, we have a certain advantage, we developed immediately on a high technological base, and there are

some elements that are generally absent anywhere in the world, for example, an order pick-up point, this is an exclusively russian know-how, here colleagues were pioneers. i must say that in no country in the world, in the form in which we have an order pick-up point, they simply do not exist, for us it is a small micro-business, who finds out how to best utilize their premises, they themselves determine where to place this pick-up point, they understand the location, they understand the geography, they understand what kind of traffic this point will have, it is not like that all over the world, there are large multinational logistics operators who do this , who... perform a purely logistics function, fidex, ups, dhl, it seems to me that we have simply forgotten these names, because we have not used them for a long time, but in general they exist, this is how this work is organized, this is our business model in this regard, in my opinion, more progressive, primarily

because our entrepreneur is always more flexible and adapts faster to any changes. from the point of view of the relevance of regulation, it is really relevant. there are, and the trend is that a lot of niche digital platforms or marketplaces are appearing on the market, each of them is developing in its own professional industry, its own professional category, and of course, it would be right if they initially had exactly those in their business model business practices, which we have already arrived at through experience, so that they do not get these bumps, well, for example, to warn in advance about changes to the offer, there, if it is a fine, then it should only be for... a specific violation, there should be an evidence base confirming that you were fined for a reason, there should be an opportunity to appeal this fine, there should be measures taken to exclude the possibility of selling goods on the site that do not meet mandatory requirements and so on

further, now from the point of view of export, if we are talking about export potential, today there was such an approach from the point of view from the point of view of aspiration. to asian countries, of course, our national players should feel very confident first of all in the domestic market, because only in this way can all barriers be overcome, and... if we, for example , talk about export to china, when we simply send something in parcels to our colleagues, then in china, for example, vat is charged on each parcel, secondly, it is not a duty that is levied there, but a so-called consumption tax, but this consumption tax is a huge amount, it is 13, 20, 50%, depending. here , our production is very much loved, 50% of

our jewelry is very well sold abroad in china, in principle , the cost of the goods, this is a barrier, of course yes, and of course it will be easier for us to create a digital future if we can remove these barriers together with our colleagues, in principle, to enter foreign markets with such...

we can be a driver for our manufacturers advertising inventory that helps business grow, is that so? well, really, in fact, advertising is the engine, as they say, of sales, and the right kind of advertising moves everything faster, yes, but... it is important, what else, what to pay attention to, in fact, those products that,

that is, even, not so much products, after all, the culture of making the right knowledge of our brand, this expertise that already exists today in rvb, yes, thanks to rusudor, we will actively use it, in fact, for everyone marketplace participants of all manufacturers, what? mikhail also said something important, what i paid attention to, this is the so-called mentoring, yes, that is, many of our manufacturers, or large manufacturing plants, they do not quite understand how to use the platform tool, so we , you know, on the sidelines of the forum, we discussed with some regional leaders that they... will collect their local brands, and we will come, and we will conduct

so-called trainings so that they could clearly understand for themselves how to use the platform, in this sense, not only in the far east, i think that we will apply this practice throughout the country, of course, we are confident, in fact, we talk a lot about export, we are confident that brand awareness, strengthening the production capabilities of our manufacturers, will lead us to the fact that we will really need the export capabilities of the state in fact, and we expect once again, yes , that we really, our manufacturers, they will receive this support, which will allow us to talk about alberiz, i will say five countries, where actually ours are waiting for our products of russian production with great pleasure they will accept it, that's it, in a few words , that's it, thank you very much, well, and so summing up, i would like

to connect the deputy minister of economic development to our conversation in the mode of yes internet connection, and he will have the floor, probably, since we have already finished the discussion, i wanted to then ask, to what extent today. these platform solutions, platform economy, well i don't know, well it helps integration processes, as you wish, either in the eurasian space or separately. if we take, i don't know, the asia-pacific region, in your opinion, how useful, effective, necessary and strategically important is it today. alexey, thank you very much, i hope you can see me, hear me, i am very glad that there is an opportunity to join this important discussion from moscow, i would say that the eurasian factor here,

especially our eurasian economic union, well, you can't exclude it from this... story just because we have a part of the regulation that artem spoke about, spoke about in great detail with a sense of the matter, it, well, objectively transferred to the supranational level, and indeed issues related to at least customs clearance of goods in the eurasian economic union, they require regulation that all five ias member countries agree with, on the one hand, and this is certainly a challenge and this is important. therefore, for example, i admit i believe that we are a little behind in the is with regulation, because here really is a situation where we should even the basic concepts that are already in the legislation of all member countries of the ias, have been accepted and implemented, there is taxation by the country of destination of the operator of electronic trade, however, in order to introduce this into the code of the customs union

of the eurasian economic union, negotiations were needed, discussions were needed, a consensus was needed. eh, the agreement itself on - electronic on electronic trade in the eurasian economic union we are only now finalizing at the same time as the protocols on collecting ae on taxation of services here we are ratified launched by the country of destination amendments to the agreement on the customs code of the customs of the eurasian economic union on goods we also agreed and adopted today - i hope in the near future all this will be ratified the principle that actually exists will also be implemented in the union, while we understand that we comply with the main postulate, the main principle on which the eurasian economic union is built, this is a free market for the movement of goods, works, services by large by large

number of types of services, we have also already created a single market, this is not declarative, this is... strong, worthy places for them in trade in general in the eurasian space, but at the same time, i say, here, probably, this very factor of protecting one's market, it is complicated by the fact that one's market for us is the entire market of the eurasian economic union, these are all five countries, well, plus, of course, the interests of our closest

neighbors are immediately connected, this is a commonwealth of an independent state, a number of other countries that are not part of the union at the same time... at the same time associated with agreements on free trade zones and goods, services, and these nuances need to be observed by us, including, on the one hand, coordinating, issuing and ratifying - such complex regulations, making changes to the customs code, so i say, i really hope that we will finalize and adopt the agreement on electronic commerce this year and at the same time there is a need to develop this market, because the demand is huge, these are questions of logistics, these are questions, let's say, of consumer habits, it is clear that people who are accustomed to buying a wide range of goods through e-commerce, it is clear that they will never give up this habit, on the contrary, the market will offer more and more comfortable, convenient conditions for the delivery

of these goods, on the other hand, of course , this is also a business, because for small and medium-sized businesses here and... business for entering the markets of other countries, let's say, small and medium-sized businesses of our partners in the eurasian economic union, it is also an opportunity to minimize bring closer here reduce this distance between the buyer and the seller, and it seems to me that these are absolutely important necessary trends that need to be promoted, as i recall now, about three years ago, there was a discussion about being or not being a warehouse bond. in the eu, there was such a question, it was controversial, and i said that of course, all this will happen, of course, there is a pilot, not a pilot, practice, it will force us to do what we do. the whole world in order to maximally promote forms of electronic commerce, which today day takes up more and more volume and role in trade, in export, yes in import, in

servicing those requests that the population has, it seems to me that now today our main task is to find a balance and the necessary pace so that regulation in the eurasian economic union does not lag behind life, those requests, those standards, that level of development of electronic commerce that we have today, and i am very pleased here i would like to thank our colleagues, representatives of the market, literally everyone i see here as participants in the panel discussion, these are the people and the companies that with their expertise, their lively professional communication, help us in creating this regulation of its nuances, now we are actively discussing with... colleagues from the eu precisely the issues, issues of customs regulation, customs regulation practices, there are customs tariff rates, you know that the customs tariff is also uniform in our eurasian

economic union, to maintain or not to maintain or to maintain at this level, not let's say, the non-taxable level of price, weight of imported goods, these are all nuances that we need to agree on at the five, we, thanks to the expertise of our major players, our companies... i think, will make a decision that - well, let's say, will benefit everyone, buyers, consumers - this flow of electronic commerce and, of course, our main players, who provide in this case both delivery and logistics, service. thank you very much again for the opportunity to speak today. thank you big, dmitry valerievich, to you, first of all, because, well, if someone is not aware, in moscow it is 4:00 in the morning, man, i thought there would be a home background. man in the ministry, judging by the backdrop, and i, as a hero of one film, said, i will not say that this is a feat, but in general there is something heroic in this, so, therefore, a separate big thank you,

so, and so, summing up, i would like, first of all, to say to repeat the important thesis that our esteemed speakers spoke about, these are today such large electronic platforms, this is of course a sign, well, such a sovereign economy, their presence, the fact that they have their own face... their own style, their own specifics of work, says that we have our own experience of our own developments, which can also be scaled up, shared , interacted with foreign partners, how this integration is built in the tamov space, and what difficulties there are in interpenetration in the market, of course, this is the answer to the question that not only help from the state is needed, but a certain regulation, on the one hand, on the other hand, this is in my opinion... it is obvious, well, and that this is already the future that has arrived, because well, with a large number of different electronic platforms, marketplaces, in

the broad sense of the word, platforms, both trading and service, the world will work, whoever has them effective, fast, reliable, good, will have a competitive advantage, both national and economic, it seems to me, this is the summary, what is needed. this is annually in some way, well, so to endorse, to audit, to see what works well, what does not work very well, this is obvious, so i hope that discussions on the topic of electronic platforms will be regular, yes they are already regular at major forums, so thank you all very much for participating in the session, our esteemed speakers, our viewers in the hall, thank you very much, good work to all, see you soon, have a nice day. this was a live broadcast from vladivostok. the session on the development of digital technologies ended at the economic forum.

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vladimir putin is expected to speak at the eastern economic forum today. the president will take part in the plenary session. there are 28 events in total on today's forum program. we started work with a discussion on digital technologies and the development of the northern sea ways. and at one of the platforms, they discussed international cooperation in the legal sphere. how russian experts see it. our correspondent alexandra perfileva listened attentively. she is on the line with us, alexandra. i. hello, tell us what assessments and proposals were made at this platform, how did this third working day begin? yes, tatyana, good morning, in moscow it is still early and cheerful, but for us it is already full, including various sessions, discussions, now i will tell you in more detail, at which discussion we were here this morning with my film crew,