it seems to me that firstly, it is worthy of applause, secondly, i already regretted that i asked for a challenge, because there is a specific answer to each challenge, it is very cool, especially about the youth, because you start to understand, the outflow and inflow, you look, well, it turns out that the youth really choose the far east, yesterday we discussed the project about usuriysky island, there is also... maybe a tourist one, 15 million tourists are ready to come, 1.4 million specific plan by the thirtieth year, i am sure that it will be exceeded, i am sure, look, near the city of zabaikalsk, across the border there is a small chinese city of manjauli, they built a park, a bit like a park called russia, there is a giant motryoshka there and so on, the number of visitors is 8 million people a year, in harben there is a festival every year with 13 million people, in vladivostok up to...

you start off so fast that you break all records, igor ivanovich, moving on to talking about opportunities, yesterday the web was mentioned more than once when projects were presented to the president, when you talk about resources, the web immediately comes up i remember, we are already participating in many investment projects, on the horizon of 2030, what investment opportunities do you see, why is this interesting for elections, yes, mish, you were preparing a session, you had a certificate.

in order to turn to the east, you need to stand strong to the west, to the east, to the north, to the south, russia will definitely be strong with this, and regarding the investments that the web together with other commercial banks and of course , most importantly with entrepreneurs, these are not web projects, these are projects of entrepreneurs, who are also represented here by others entrepreneurs and commercial banks and we, where we can work through elements of support, at least it seems like support,

why in these difficult macroeconomic conditions we issue money not on general terms. well, yesterday yuri petrovich reported to the president said that the bar that was officially adopted is 10 trillion investments and that the plenipotentiary representative is confident that 12 trillion is a completely feasible plan, which means and as i understand it you designated the sources during the session, but where is it? money, which means, if you will be attentive refer to the central bank reports, there are enough funds in the country to implement all these investments, funds after paying income tax in the accounts of commercial organizations are growing, funds in the accounts of individuals are growing, there is a lot of liquidity in the country, indeed, as part of the fight against inflation , the central bank is working on a certain credit compression, this will be a difficult period for us, how long it will last we do not know. but nevertheless

, for the most complex projects requiring project financing no opportunities are closed for us, here is webv, and web with the project finance factory. what we talked about yesterday, new airports, what we are discussing with our chairman of the council, he is also working here within the framework of the forum, grigorenko dmitrievich, what we are discussing with maxim stanislavovich oreshkin, who is in charge of economics in the presidential administration, these are all complex projects in any case, even within the framework of credit compression.

mineral resources, but this is the ability to sell these resources for global development, without our global development resources, when the quality of life will change, including in the largest cities of the world, it is impossible. it seems to me that here the key word is, first of all, applause, the key word here is, we must be proud of what we have, both the resources and the entrepreneurs, the opportunity to sell and promote it, and here we have such a ping-pong, now we... again to the entrepreneurs, and it is especially pleasant that here, if you look closely, there are many different ones, we play football, yes, everything, everything is correct, and therefore, very, very many brands far eastern, different, animation,

clothing, products, even looking ahead, here are the products produced by ivan, the ceo of transgaz, when i was preparing, i watched a very interesting biography. you were born in kavalerovo, not far from here, graduated from the skolkovo school and could do business anywhere, but you returned here, if possible, what was the reason for your entrepreneurial choice earlier than it is now, well , honestly, what are the challenges here, the problems on your part, everything is correct they said, i was born in primorye and continue to live here, if earlier i was still thinking about moving somewhere to another region and for... i entered solkovo in fact, to understand, but already then 5 years ago we studied trends and how many spheres of life would change not only in our country, but also in neighboring states, and i realized that i was born in a place where there would be

a colossal turnaround, even before covid we studied all this, there is no police turnaround as such, even then all this was planned, more that, even supporting igor ivanovich, i... was in dalian, this is a former distant port, in the dalian museum, when you study the architecture of the city, it turns out that all the streets , all the locations of the port enterprises were designed by our engineers, 100 years ago, a little more than 100 already, and the chinese built an object according to these models, i mean that they looked much deeper into the east, just now, it is clear that we are slightly geographically present in all the objects, but this geography needs to be erased by the economy with the conjugation of trade between russia and china, for example, we see hailujiang province now, these are our neighboring friends, we call them, they really are now coming with a lot of chinese tourists, we

are going to them, so 70 million people live there, the population density here is higher than even moscow, if we take 500 km, 100 km, and we do not take the primorsky territory specifically. but there is a lot of talk about expanding bottlenecks, these are border crossings, ports and so on, but we are not talking about expanding, for example, such layers as... expanding, for example, legislation, russian and chinese, a little bit, weight and dimension control, we transport, when by cars, goods to china, that means, on chinese territory i could transport 25 tons of cargo with this car, and on russian territory 20, that is, by two to 25% the difference comes from the fact that we can transport in russia and in china, this is simply the regulatory framework, our regulatory framework, it is outdated, it was made in soviet times, there were others - trucks were one and a half, yes, now all the same, tractors of a different power, now, in order

to overcome these, to overcome the restrictions, the chinese what they do, they put warehouses on the borders, respectively, they fill these warehouses with twenty-ton ones on the russian side, then twenty-five-ton ones are delivered all over china, and this also creates a bottleneck, because it would be possible to seamlessly now in the government, there is an intergovernmental agreement allowing chinese transport to enter russia, russian. china, we would calmly increase the work of border crossings, from the twenty-fifth year , border crossings will be opened several times larger, but we cannot overcome these obstacles, although the roads are already they build according to other standards, not all of them, of course, but, for example, primorye 1, primorye 2, the crossings that have been talked about for many years, the primorye sports corridors, connecting chinese manufacturers on the contrary, that is precisely why they are not developing, since there is a solution, infrastructure.

which is in the far east, as yuri petrovich says, indeed there is the most powerful set, probably, of support measures throughout the country, this is how it should be, well, so that people come, do business, but there are so many support measures, so many different ones, that firstly, no whether the ideas somehow unify them, this will be a question for alexey later, secondly, what will happen when these support measures are removed, you, as entrepreneurs, could you work without any support measures at all? or is there a risk that when they go away, the business will stop or slow down?

i will answer briefly, we use support measures, they are the only thing that is unstable, every year something, some measure falls away, some appears, we use loans from a microfinance organization of primorsky krai, whose founder is the government, and there loans 6% for 7 years, for example, but there the amounts are up to 100 million, and then there is the renewal of equipment and so on. we use all the preferential regimes, this is spv, we have two projects in spv, this is a recreation center, we completed it this year and a gas storage facility, i am for support, it's just that dmitry yuryevich is already on a different scale, he himself can support anyone and even the city administration by building a park, yes, in the center, so it probably needs to be looked at from different angles, but support is needed, especially micro and medium business before it gets fat, we also do not stop our projects, despite the rates, we have learned to trust the state a little, it is not the first time in 10 years that the rates are like this, they were

like this before and we worked, we just understand that if the government says that we will lower the rate in the next couple of years, and the planning horizon in projects is 5-7 years, and then further, so we wait and refinance then we will live peacefully, again recognized as the best independent ...

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no one except the state allows them, this is the russian coordination there, the chinese can, we very actively use the mechanisms there is an advanced development area, but this is not so much support, this is a mechanism that correctly helps to combine the synchronization of the work of municipal, regional, federal authorities, from the point of view of dating loans we do not we use it, of course, who would refuse cheap money. but it is such a drug of sorts, but it is also, you see, better to give it not as support for someone specific, yes, but as unraveling some knots, which, well, we really have a lot of problems, a lot of knots, it seems that if we approach it from this point of view, then the work itself will be more productive and will not become and will not be

then the question itself, what will happen when support, support disappears? support tools increase well that is, we are actually not even talking about efficiency there we remove losses and here you mentioned long-term support tools it was not by chance that i said the word

masterplan this is such a story with long-term planning how important is it in your activity in particular i? i don’t really believe in the ideas of long-term planning, it’s a good thing, we should strive for it, but it seems to me that it doesn’t work, because the world is very changeable, here you plan, you want to make god laugh, so tell him about your plans, i try to plan a lot in my activities and i never guess, because it seems that it is more correct to try not so much to plan as to guess, well , as if to look at trends and try to match them, in this regard, the idea of ​​a master plan for cities there looks good, perhaps this is an important story, but it seems that it does not work this way, we are unlikely to be able to sit down now, gather the smartest people and say, the city will develop according to this plan, this is the right work, we must

think about it, think, but we will definitely not guess, because...

and how is success different from luck? success is a result, and luck is an external factor that fell into your hands like a mango from a palm tree, and you planned success, i absolutely agree with dmitry, this is generally a well-known maxim among the military and investors, no battle develops according to a plan, no business develops according to a business plan, but no investor will invest money in a business without a business plan. therefore, you are right, a plan is nothing, planning is everything, master plans are the most important framework, which i am ready for today list you 70 objects that in

the twenty-fourth year, some of them directly changing the life of the city, will appear thanks to this work, this is the embankment in komsomolsk-on-amur, this is tribune hall in blagoveshchensk, our key object that will influence tourism with china, this is a park. like in magadan, which generally turns zavyalovo bay and the city of magadan from such a gloomy place into an attractive, interesting, albeit with a harsh nature, well, with such a beautiful landscape place and so on, 70 objects, yes already at the same time this can be done with a master plan, their authors, our president, a deep bow, but of course we will roll up our sleeves and do everything to ensure that all plans are completed on time. thank you, and... igor ivanovich, we are now preparing, we will soon finalize the updated web strategy, here is one of the directions, i

know, will be the development of a public-private partnership instrument, maybe the modernization of legislation in this, in this area, some other initiatives, here are the projects that we saw yesterday, the role of the web also in structuring, or what , the relationship between the state and private investors, that's how you see it? that's on the development of our strategy in this area, namely the relationship between private and state business, before the strategy, you know, i wanted to joke and emphasize the role of the web, one very important person who helped build this university once told me, you know, modesty is the path to oblivion, since you speak so powerfully about master planning, i must say that the fact that master planning in the country is so powerful developed, web arrow and moscow... will the master plan be executed or not, it

does not matter, it is a good plan, which is constantly changing, makes you keep your mind in a tense state, think ahead all the time, work on...

for entrepreneurship, be it a tool at a preferential rate through - webv or a project financing factory, or if new tools appear within the framework of ppp, in any case these are conditions that differ from the usual commercial banking conditions, you can call it, you can call it support, you can call them whatever you like, the tori, which are often in the federal government, some criticize, others promote, well of course, this is a benefit, if you don’t want to call it support, call it

anyway... special conditions for the development of a project, we must learn to give such special conditions to those who cannot implement a project under general conditions, if such a project is important for the state and for business, in general for the macro-region as a whole, well yes, then we must make a decision that for this project the rate will not be 18-20%, 10-11, that is, now the factory provides project financing for ppp, we are confident that now we are on the threshold of completely new...

this project or not, through the supervisory board for the economy, and interact with investors and commercial banks in order to create a syndicate, approximately the same role for large ppp projects web can play, we are working with the presidential administration, we hope that both the government and the president will support us in this ambition, i think that in this case we will be equally useful to both the government and entrepreneurs. well, this will definitely be one of the elements of our updated strategy,

100%, including in the context of the topic. where to get money, resources for the future, when we had a similar discussion at the st. petersburg forum, at the end we had an exercise, one word that is associated with the far east, i anticipate it, now we have a more economic session, so if possible in a blitz mode, i don’t know, one two three, probably one is better, a measure, a success factor, what is the most important thing now in order to...