oh yeah, here's another thing, for example, that the main task of protecting the people, we need, of course, to take care of families with children and so, well, labor is really in a unique position, that means two and a bit. 2.4 percent, in my opinion, this has never happened in our history, it is connected with the needs of real production, how can we solve this issue, well, first of all, of course, i repeat, we need to take care of the population, increase the birth rate, create conditions for people to acquire a large family, so that it would be fashionable to have many children, as once in russia there were seven, they say 10 people in families, but the second thing is...

we will move in all these directions, and i will move, and personnel, yes, excuse me, please, and personnel, of course, we need to train personnel, so this is the most important task of the state, that is why a new national project has appeared, is appearing, this is what is called personnel. well, and i will move on further economic issues, vladimirovich, we are meeting here a week before the next meeting of the central bank, at the previous one it was decided that the rate will be in 18%. by the way, here is andrey lenevich kostin sitting in the front row, already talking about the fact that behind the scenes, he expects the 18% rate to be maintained this time. at the same time, over the past year , banks have increased consumer lending with unsecured mortgages by 3.5 trillion rubles, and the monthly growth rates here remain very high, and corporate lending also grew by 2.3% in july, the central bank cites this data. how can you explain this contradiction? the contradiction between the high rate that is now. this is how

experts believe that to a large extent this is connected with two points, the first is that consumer lending, it remains at a high level, because individuals, they are not very sensitive to the key rate, first, second, as for corporate lending, first, first, second, we still made a decision according to which support measures are implemented for individual sectors of the economy, there are state instruments related to support, in essence, subsidizing certain rates by industry and by large

projects, i think that this explains it. by the way, the head of the central bank virana said that there are no risks to financial stability, but at the same time she noted that the scale of overheating of the economy in the first half of the year... was the maximum in the last 16 years, so what do you think, are there any risks to stability today and how is it planned to cool the situation, if it needs to be done, well, this is how they cool it by raising the key rate, canceling preferential mortgages, it is now supported, that means, by benefits in it mortgages in the far east, in the arctic with a family mortgage. well, these are the methods that ensure this cooling that you mentioned, but another factor is

the stable work of the government, the ministry of finance on balancing the budget, and i say... we talked about it with you, but we need to strive for this, for this, those special support instruments are invented, and which i spoke about, but i repeat,

it will not be easy to maintain investments in the same volume, but the government should think about where on what directions, so that...

we have, sir, he says to all his, that is, supporters, firstly, and secondly, here, she is so striking and expressive.

to the topic of our meeting today , let's talk about the prospects for growth in trade turnover with russia, you already noted the day before at a meeting with vladimir vladimirovich that there are prospects and it is necessary to do this, while according to the ministry of economic development, today we have a free trade agreement in effect between the eac, which includes russia with iran, vietnam and serbia, it has already been decided that the same the agreement will be signed with mongolia. there are also negotiations with indonesia and a number of other countries. does malaysia have similar ideas? we believe in free trade,

there are no restrictions, and i assured president putin yesterday that we will continue to do this, we have good relations with iran and with many other countries, if everything goes well, we will continue to develop free trade. even now, without a special regime , we can see that there is a new wave of interest from both sides, from malaysia, from russian, with agreements we will continue to develop this area, help the business community, we will invite delegations from banks and from the industrial sector.

in general, are there enough volumes of electricity generation in the country today? well, depending on which regions? in siberia, for example, there is excess generation in the far east , there is a deficit and it will, unfortunately, increase if the necessary measures are not taken in a timely manner, in the european part there, too, we need to think about timely not only repairs, but also deep modernization, well, therefore there is plans for... they are being developed, some, some have already been approved, the main thing is to implement everything on time, to establish such

economically, well, sound work in this area, to make decisions on time, but speaking about energy, another question, though already connected, probably, with external markets, at the end of this year the agreement on the supply of russian gas in transit through ukraine to the eu expires, the head of the kiev regime has already stated that he is not going to extend the contract... in general, what do you think are the energy prospects of europe are the voices of those who will suffer heard at all? well, the head of gazprom , on the contrary, is also in the front row, as is vtb, i will also address german oskavich , also germanich, everyone is here, but this is good, because everyone is showing interest in developing their business in the far east, but

as for ukraine, we are not giving up this transit, strange as it may seem, why? because we intend, and gazprom intends to fulfill all its obligations to our clients, with whom there are long-term contracts, but there one of the mandatory components of this joint work is. there is a transit contract that ends, ends on december 31 of this year, that means, but if ukraine refuses this. the main consumers in europe, apparently, do not want to do this, although they provide comprehensive assistance, support, both military and financial, whatever ukraine wants, but well, we cannot force them, our ukraine refuses our transit, that means, those volumes of gas that go to europe, that means, they will be reduced, they will be

go along other routes, in particular through the turkish stream, maybe partly. through the blue stream to turkey too, well, although this is for domestic consumption, but nevertheless, this is how they will create to help energy stability in europe, but this is their choice, how will this affect them, well, i don’t know to the end, we are dealing with our issues, and let them deal with theirs, because you understand, then i just don’t even know how to characterize this attitude towards their allies and partners, who... are very monstrous many in the united states, and in the same ukraine, it is very strange, for me it is simply incomprehensible, but they blew up this gas pipeline along the bottom of the baltic sea, nord stream, they blew up both lines of nord stream 1 and one line of nord stream 2, by the way, one exists, it is in working

order, what prevents the same german government from pressing the button, agreeing with us to turn it on, how much is that? 25 billion cubic meters along one line, 27.5 billion cubic meters of gas would immediately go to europe, to germany. why did they they don't do this, i don't understand, they can receive through the territory of ukraine, they can receive through the turkish stream, but they can't through the thread that goes along the bottom of the baltic sea, well, in my opinion, this is some kind of defamation. it means professional schizophrenia , some kind of nonsense, why? well, they don't want to, it's not necessary, we will increase, we will increase our supplies to other regions of the world gradually, but we

have a good project with the people's republic of china for a long time before all these crises in europe and in the ukrainian direction, it means for supplies to the chinese people's republic, next year we will reach the design capacity. 38 billion m. plus from the far east, from here, sakhalin-vladivostok, also to the people's republic of china, plus another 10 billion m. we are studying other routes. i repeat, this is in no way connected with the events in ukraine. these are simply our agreements that were reached many years ago. we will implement all this, we will ask, plus we will develop, that is, gas liquefaction, and here they are trying to create problems for us, mr. misson knows about this better than anyone else, but everything it is developing equally, and russia's share in the supply of liquefied natural gas on the world market is gradually increasing, it is not as big as we would like, but we will do it anyway, despite any difficulties that they are trying to create for us,

we will do it anyway, because what is the problem here, it means, whoever and as if... tried to close our energy sector, it is impossible, because production is at the limit in accordance with the needs of the world market, this is impossible, you just understand, it is impossible, you can achieve, just imagine, let's imagine that tomorrow everything was closed, gas, our oil and so on, but the world economy would not withstand such a closure, simply prices...

gas, gas, i mean first of all, well, of course, the economy of europe, including germany, which is designed for our energy resources, is going through very serious

tests, many industries are simply closing, that's the whole point, but it's not our choice, we are ready, please, agree with poland so that poland opens pipeline systems, they exist, so, western europe. we will, we will develop social, social gasification. about gasification, i will clarify a little bit about, by the way, gazprom alexey borisevich named the volume that

went through the branches of the nord stream. what do you think, taking into account now those projects that are in the implementation stage both in central asia and with iran, with china. does gazprom have prospects to restore the previous volumes of supplies to the external market? well, i already mentioned this, that we are entering ... are developing actively, they simply have the economies of these countries developing, additional resources are needed, that's all, well, the same uzbekistan, i already talked about this, it is not directly related to the ukrainian events, but it is well known, the population growth in uzbekistan is a million per year.

we will coordinate our actions with turkmenistan, of course, but iran has been asking us for a long time about supplies, but this is also a very convenient place for us, the deposits are nearby, we are now thinking, i believe, that these are quite feasible projects, bearing in mind that the markets are huge and in neighboring countries with iran, there is simply a colossal need, here there are different opportunities and we will develop different markets. we will work according to our own, we will, therefore, squeeze, as i have already said and so on, we will gradually restore, of course, the sales volume, there is no doubt about this, and

we will develop our own economy, in many regions, by the way, here in the far east, we do not have enough gas generation, we need to unite, gazprom has such plans, to unite the european part of the gas transportation system. the far eastern, so that the results are re-calculated accordingly to implement, all of this is in our plans, all of this will be implemented. thank you, well, let's continue talking about energy, mr. ibrahim, malaysia is the second largest country, producer of oil and gas in southeast asia, well, by the way, those famous petronas twin towers in the capital, are just called part of the largest energy company in the country. how do you assess the current situation on the oil and gas market in the world as a whole and is malaysia considering any joint projects with today?

are also important for ensuring progress for us as a country that cannot afford to be completely dependent on oil, you have already mentioned in your speeches that the nsr is now actively developing and it is also used for the transportation of energy resources, you said that by the thirtieth year the figure is planned to increase to 150 million tons for transportation, what do you think, is the construction of not only the infrastructure, but also the ships themselves that will sail along this route proceeding at a sufficient pace today. well, for example, the day before you also visited the place where in the future a new top of merchant ships will be built here near vladivostok. this is a question that really should be in the center of our attention, and it is mainly connected with ensuring transportation, but with those vessels, ships that transport cargo from those that provide ship escort. this is primarily the icebreaker fleet. russia

has a unique icebreaker fleet, unique, we have 34 diesel icebreakers of different classes and levels, which means seven operating nuclear icebreakers, four are under construction, or rather three are already under construction, and that means the fourth is now at the beginning of the twenty-fifth the year will be laid down, this means 7 + 4 = 11 and another one of very high power, unprecedented. high power, in my opinion, 1306, or something like that, somewhere around that thousand horsepower, if you measure in horsepower, this is the so-called leader, it is already being built here in vladivostok, on the star, this whole group will certainly provide year-round transportation, because the new icebreaker, especially the leader, it is not only powerful, it is also wide, it will provide for the passage of convoys of ships, this is... this is

the first, second, the ships themselves need to be built, which cargo will be transported, and of course, we will expand the capabilities of our shipbuilding industry in the european part, we just discussed this yesterday with the head of vtb, with mr. kostin with delegated representatives, delegated by him to our united shipbuilding company by people, the development prospects. peskoy happiness and here we correctly paid attention, we looked yesterday at the place for the future shipbuilding plant, i am sure we will build it, as with great difficulties, but still built and star here in the far east, in vladivostok directly, we need to build infrastructure, that means port facilities, we need

to provide services in these ports, safety. shipping, care for the environment and so on. all this in a complex, we have everything planned, i am sure it is being implemented, it will be implemented. taking into account climate change, of course, movement along the northern sea route, certainly, our capabilities of the lidobreaker fleet, should be, i am sure, ensured all year round. this is very important for our economy and for the world economy, for the economy of our friends, in particular the chinese. the people's republic shows such a keen interest in joint work in this area, we invite everyone for this and are confident of success. well , by the way, speaking of construction, now zhirya vladimir vladimirovich, to what extent is the need for it covered in the far east, we know that here the preferential mortgage is preserved, while it was cancelled throughout the country, as i promised, i quote the words of hermann oskarovich gref, that with the exit from the preferential mortgage program, he said, they delayed, here

do you think that today we have solved the housing problem in the country as a whole, if we closed the preferential program, mr. prime minister quoted, tolstoy, chekhov, you are already quoting gref, he is also among the classics, then, as far as construction is concerned, we have simply achieved, i think, outstanding results in construction, we have never had such a volume before, like the results of last year, 100, what is 100. 3 million or something, then 110, 110 million, although our goal was to get to 120, but 110 - this is already a very good indicator, which means, of course, in connection with the fact that the preferential mortgage has ended, of course, this cannot go unnoticed.