tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 September 7, 2024 3:30am-4:01am MSK
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hello, this is kirill vyshinsky and this is the program typical novorusiya. our name says it all, we are talking about the territory that has returned to its historical roots, about navorusiya. with the help of a close look at history, we will try to reveal the uniqueness of its present day, find typical features, recognizable signs of the past. and this is what we will talk about today.
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a conversation with an expert of the programs, pages written with persistence and courage, the story of the author of the story in spite of all deaths. 10 years ago, on these september days in minsk there was the first document in a series of agreements that were supposed to stop the civil conflict in donbas was signed. this was the so-called minsk protocol. its full name is the protocol following the consultation of the trilateral contact group regarding joint steps aimed at implementing the peace plan of ukrainian president petro poroshenko and the initiatives of russian president vladimir putin. before
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the negotiations, there were a series of meetings, including at the highest level; presidents poroshenko and putin met at the end of august 2014 and spoke on the phone the day before the document was signed. the first point in it was an immediate bilateral ceasefire in donbass. at that time, ukrainian troops were in the ilovaisk cauldron, suffering huge losses. kiev needed a respite, and it was ready to sign any documents that would give, in addition to a ceasefire, the ukrainian side was obliged to adopt a law on the special status of donbass and hold early local elections, improve the humanitarian situation in the region, not persecute activists of the people's republics. two weeks later , a memorandum was signed in minsk, which spelled out ceasefire guarantees. however, kiev, on their implementation, is difficult to withdraw.
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and were not going to support the implementation of minsk-2, ukraine and the west simply needed a break after another defeat of the ukrainian armed forces from debaltseve. decade of the first minsk agreements, today against the backdrop of terrorist attacks by the ukrainian armed forces on peaceful towns and villages in the kursk region, looks very indicative. what lessons can be learned from the history of the minsk process? in the story by anna efimova. the peace summit in switzerland is the last of kiev's demonstrative peace initiatives. zelensky offers his own plan for resolving the conflict. true, it seems a little out of touch with reality.
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in fact, the so-called peace formula implies a return to the status quo of 1991. this is, in principle, ukraine's strategy. and every time they start a new one political process. they are always trying to roll back, and the same thing is happening now, when that is, russia proposed its options for resolving the conflict, in june, which was voiced by president putin, and then ukraine tried to fantasize about this topic again, they began, that is, to ignore the agreements that ukraine initialed within the framework of istanbul, they began, let's start from the very beginning. in the final communication of the summit on ukraine in switzerland, only three points from zelensky's peace formula remained, they concerned the exchange of prisoners. all for all safe shipping attention to nuclear safety taking into account the latest events in the kursk region, this point is especially indicative. what is happening today in the kursk region, well, this is pure military adventure, it is obvious that the goal was to capture at least several regional centers and the kursk npp, well, this
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would have made at least some sense, change, blackmail, nuclear, yes, but they did not get this prize for one simple reason that - the first 3 days of the goal of the task, these are exactly the ones that were implemented with military military means were not, then what happened happened, as soon as a continuous line of combat contact is formed now, we will find ourselves in our natural habitat, here the enemy will have no chance, some adequate assessment of these events from europe, the usa, the entire so-called civilized world, in fact, did not follow, moreover, representatives of the state department called the strikes on kursk common sense, the kidnapping of people are scattered. mines on the roads , random shooting at cars with civilians residents who are trying to evacuate. all this, apparently, fits into those so-called european values, for which they stood on the maidan. it was the february coup d'etat in kiev in 2014 that
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became the starting point of the bloodshed that has been going on for 10 years now. then no one could have imagined that the situation would go beyond all reasonable limits, that is the price of the agreements of the euro-integrators who came to power. it became obvious immediately, here we had an agreement with yanukovych and , therefore, the so-called guarantors, germany, france, poland, in terms of restoring peace in ukraine, stopping this coup, in turn yanukovych gave some of his obligations, yes, to hold early elections and so on, it would seem , that's the compromise, when it was violated, maybe it lasted for 2 months, maybe for half a year? no, it was violated the next day. so, what other examples do you need? already on april 13, 2014, the national security council of ukraine made a decision on the so-called anti-terrorist operation in donbass. in essence,
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a full-scale war began against the population of the regions that did not support the illegal change of power in kiev. two republics were formed, the dpr and the lpr. so, there was an attempt to strike four times and completely cut off from the russian federation. they seriously advanced several dozen kilometers there, a tank, and all that was left was a literal throw. if the ukrainian government does not understand that people live here, and not, as yatsenyuk said, subhumans, maybe something will happen. just let the children live and the old people die. normal, human, in bed, not under shells, this video was filmed in krasny luch in luhansk region on september 2, 2014, in those days, the ukrainian army suffers a crushing fiasco near ilovaisk. in the media of nezalezhno it will be called the most brutal defeat of the ukrainian forces during the entire period of military actions. only it will force kiev to sit down at the negotiating table for the first time. soon there will be minsk one, and then, literally a few months later,
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minsk-2, officially a set of measures to implement the minsk agreements. it follows from the name that the measures reached in september agreements were not observed. by the way, minsk-2 was adopted only after that. i think that the president, former president poroshenko, who in 22 said publicly that we were not going to implement this, he was sincere, it is noteworthy that the istanbul agreements, the discussion of which was already underway at the height of the svo, put ukraine in a much stricter framework than the minsk agreements that preceded them, where , in addition to the withdrawal of troops, the talk was essentially only about the federalization of the rights of the russian-speaking population of donbass, holding local elections, however, both istanbul and minsk still envisaged the preservation of ukrainian
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statehood. all formats in which negotiations on the settlement were held, they were all, without exception, disrupted by ukraine, in this case , it will be based on those agreements that were already in place, unfortunately for ukraine, they will only get worse. that is , the proposals that were, for example, in february 2014, they will never be available to ukraine, in the format of 2024. we will not solve it - the issue is now without two components: these are the borders that must be somehow fixed anew, the second component, yes, this security guarantee, these are some limits of further nato expansion, what russia demanded from the very beginning, of course, all this will depend on the balance of power, i would say, on the stability of all players, while diplomacy is stalling... the infantry continues to move forward, the rate of advance in the torets direction is estimated at 3-5 km per day.
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recently, our troops took another important fortified area in the ssu, new york, the village novgorodskaya, once renamed by petro poroshenko in the heat of decommunization of ukraine. now it is part of russia. however, all this , both territorial and, most importantly, human losses could have been avoided. to do this , you just needed to be able to keep your word. anna efimova, valery savelyov, anastasia popova, typical naborosiya. about what experience can be gained from ten years of walking around the minsk agreements, about how this experience can help, today we will talk with our regular expert, alexander vasiliev. sasha, good afternoon, hello, sasha, i'm sure you remember how many rosy hopes were associated 10 years ago with the signing of the minsk agreements. why didn't they come true? well , there were different hopes, it seemed that with the help of this document it would be possible to force
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ukraine to move to some, there were different options, yes , but some form of federal structure, yes , actually, to make ukrainian nationalism less aggressive, yes, to make it less, less , as if to limit its possibilities, let's say , yes, because at that time in fourteenth year this ideology, it is its adherents, yes they are in fact. if ukraine had implemented them, yes, then this would have broken that nationalist consensus that was established after the victory of maidan. and actually, that's how it would be, what more do we need, more is not needed, yes, that is, simply so that it was not. ukraine an anti-russian project, now we clearly see, yes, that it would be rational for them to establish at least such
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cool neutral relations with russia, yes, that's it, but not hostile and in moscow they proceeded from the fact that this rational behavior, it will prevail, yes, on the contrary , confrontational behavior prevailed, those elites that were formed in kiev, yes, they understood that in the international, let's say, division of labor, yes, ukraine could occupy a niche, as they saw it, like this...
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even well, they pointed out their place, on the one hand, they had no interest in measuring themselves with russia, those elites that are now in charge there, they are actually euro-atlantic, that is, they themselves are oriented toward washington and are very they are afraid to cross some red lines, and washington, naturally, was absolutely not interested in normalization in establishing peace, it is very comfortable for the us, being overseas, any cold or...
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does not look adequate, kiev is not capable of negotiating in principle, ontologically, yes, in its own way, in essence , the regime that was established after the maidan is not capable of reaching an agreement, starting from the everyday level, yes, ending of course with political ones, just as there is insufficient subjectivity of these key eu countries, with you can't negotiate with them, yes, we remember that special military operations were preceded by very serious demands made by moscow to the west, namely about a global... that if you don't implement peace agreements, those same minsk agreements, yes, i repeat, no matter how anyone feels about them, but if you don't implement them, then there is only one alternative to peace
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agreements, war, yes, this is not in the sense that we don't have other alternatives, but globally... that's how the whole world is set up, yes , accordingly, new agreements, yes they well i'm afraid that only can be built there not with zelensky there poroshenko or someone will come to replace zelensky in general his prospects there they are not obvious his legitimacy is very dubious very europe we saw our chance missed 10 years of this minsk here in this sense remains the one who really determines so to speak the possibilities and there again the main thing of course is not sleep. here not to fall into this trap, yes, in the sense that not to overestimate the rationality of political behavior. sasha, thank you very much for the detailed analysis. biographies of people who lived and worked in novorossiya often serve as examples of courage and perseverance in the most difficult
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circumstances. miner vladislav titov, who became a writer in soviet times, whose story was translated into more than 20 languages. the book went through 11 editions. the plot is dramatic: a young miner prevents an underground explosion during an accident at the coalface, does everything to save the lives of his comrades and keep the mine from collapsing. having received many severe burns, he undergoes several operations and the amputation of both hands, but despite everything, hero. continues to live and work. the work is autobiographical, vladislav tetov told his story of overcoming physical pain and inner despair after the tragedy underground. the first page of the manuscript was written with a pencil, which the author held with his teeth. after publication in
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the magazine youth in 1967, readers who did not know the author's home address sent. letters with the only note on the envelope, donbass, to vladislav tetov. the book of the miner and the writer is also a story about true love, which helped not only to endure all the tragic trials, but also to find the meaning of a new life. at the time of the accident, vladislav titov was 25, his wife rita - 21. this girl not only nursed her husband back to health, but also inspired him with confidence. in his own strength. in lugansk, they have long dreamed of erecting a monument to this amazing couple, who became a symbol of selfless love, incredible courage. and the triumph of the will to live. our author, olga mokhova, visited the writer's museum apartment and learned what had been preserved there since soviet times. from
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people who have suffered injuries, they receive something from god, he was saved by books, literature, as well as writing, vladislav titov loved since school, now he was learning to write again, without hands, 7-8 hours a day, sometimes until he lost consciousness. in the editorial office magazine in the world of books, where he sent his essays, drew attention to the independence of the author's judgments, advised him to continue writing, establishing contacts with local newspapers. in this small one-room apartment , much is as it was during vladislav titov's life, a literary memorial museum was opened in lugansk in 1988, a year after he passed away. here are books, personal belongings, letters, and most importantly - a work corner, where he wrote his first autobiographical ... stories, holding a pen with his teeth. several times the manuscript was returned, in one of the editorial offices even doubted that the described truth, burned this copy out of resentment. the next one was sent to
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his homeland, where the story was published in parts in the newspaper dobrinskie vesti. but the editor-in-chief of the all-union magazine youth, boris polevoy, believed titov immediately, offered only his own title, in spite of all deaths. this book touched the souls of this huge population, a huge. country 10 thousand letters only in the first year after publication (10,000 letters) in the year of publication and for a long time after many soviet schoolchildren wrote essays inspired by the story of vladislav titov, soon the stage of the lipetsk drama theater hosted the premiere of a heroic drama based on his story. the second production was already in lugansk, where for many years the play remained one of the most beloved in the theater's repertoire. and people. the
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performer of the role vitchinko dmitry ivanovich, in general the hall exploded. titov's wife rita petrovna, to whom this story was dedicated, helped the stage to embody the image of the main character, small, fragile, according to the recollections of contemporaries, she not only replaced his hands, providing. excess, she became his wings, we idolized rita petrovna, and i believe, and not only i believe, but many others, that vladislav, despite the fact that he is amazingly talented, all this, if it were not for rita petrovna, he would hardly have succeeded as a writer. after the first book, there was a story about the wounded chibis, in total , the miner-writer published several stories and a novel, philosophical, sometimes ahead of their time. always honest, the team of the lenin mine included titov in its staff, fulfilled the norm for him, and he transferred earnings to the fund protection of peace, he was elected
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as a city council deputy three times, he always has... special respect, popularizes his work in every possible way. as part of the city competition , lugansk schoolchildren were asked to write an essay, create illustrations for his works and even sketches of a monument to true love. one boy created such a project, growth, titov's figure and wings instead of
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- rock is an essay by children who managed to connect titov with our current situation, with our heroes, who also found themselves, perhaps, in such a difficult situation as vladislav andreevich in his time, since the publication of all deaths in spite of, the story of lugansk korchagin, as vladislav titov was called, helped many people cope with despair, it is still relevant. after all, life, no matter what happens in it, is worth fighting for. olga mokhova, anastasia popova, valery savelev, typical novorussia. that's all we wanted to talk about today. kirill vyshinsky was with you. see you soon.
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