facilities that would make me more comfortable. the one thing i always wondered about it and i just want to say it without influencing anything we do, i would be more comfortable if san francisco in general had a standard for coverage irrespective of who owns the antennas. i wish we had a network of antennas overlaid over the city and particular companies can buy into owning and the rest is all based on roaming that we don't get ourselves more and more frequently how much is correct and how much is starting to be questionable. because what we areñ is startine questionable? the reality is that competing markets are trying to be the best and the brightest and the most covered. they are playing customers

against customers. that is basically all they are doing. the effect of what it means or doesn't mean, speaking for myself, i don't. i would be more comfortable if i had a standard that is basically coverage, and everything else is companies competing within getting their share of whatever there is to be had. but to sprinkle every rooftop with these increasing numbers of spikes, i am getting less and less comfortable to be asked to make that determination. commissioner sugaya: i would like to acknowledge commissioner moore's approach. the way that technology is heading, by the time we got around to figuring out locations, we are going to be on

to the next technology. we're already seeing clear wire coming to us over the last several weeks with a different technology in cellphone data transmission. they are not using the standard kinds of things that we are talking about on this issue. it is similar, but it is a different approach, a different kind of technology they are using. it is not voice oriented. but with the proliferation of data, i think the increasing desire for data on cellphone and what will be an increasing number of tablets type devices, they seem to have a plan in mind that will capture some portion of that market. we just approved an antenna today, but that was one kind of -- i don't know how you characterize it, but it is quite

different that than me -- than the t-mobiles and at&t's of the world. >> it really ties into the type of technology they will allow you to move into the next generation. we have the apple 4g now, and you have to have a frequency depending on how much wavelength is available and enough energy to balance it through. it gets very complex. the public doesn't understand that our hands are really tied. i think the public knows that partially, they are concerned about the way it looks. but there are smaller types of

relays that produce less energy. that is more protective than these large sites that have more energy. the question is, we are basically bombarded with satellite relays, people who either watched movies by radar, you have a dish out there that would be bombarded with radiofrequency. it is a complex area. part of it is that my understanding through the health department is that it is a case of people living close to them. esthetically -- aesthetically, it is ugly, but the amount of

radioactivity we are exposed to is ridiculous compared to the 1800's. i take a look at this case and had a discussion of several of you yesterday about it. is it really health-related? is it really aesthetic? is it really going to affect your quality of life? we are going to see more of this because if you go to japan, korea, china, they're much further ahead with all of these hand-held devices. i have not seen any studies, i have not seen much of an increase.

if you look at sites of short, it is a very complicated area. i understand the concerns of the neighborhood. based on the information we have now and the competition, we have to have a level playing field. commissioner moore: i just wanted to pick up on what commissioner sugaya was saying. we should add a condition that says once the technology changes, they need to take the antenna's down. that is for television, nobody uses them anymore. we are leaving behind a dead technology that clutters up our rooftops. >> i feel like they are sort of being held hostage to the

technology and to the neighborhoods and the interface between them. we talk about 3g and 4g technology that requires more than what you have now. old technology was only six months ago. what is coming next year? i don't know. to me, there is very little we can do in these situations to appease everybody. we can't even get city wide coverage for wi-fi. >> commissioner moore, just to

clarify, there is the six month clause that is a standard condition. >> there is a motion and a second before you. the motion is to approve the project as submitted. commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner lee: aye. commissioner moore: no. commissioner sugaya: aye. >> so moved, commissioners. that puts us at public comment. they can address anything except for agenda items with one exception. if members of the public were allowed to testify, they have closed the public hearing. your opportunity to address the commission must have been exercised during the public

comment portion of the calendar. each member of the public may address the commission for up to 3 minutes. president miguel: is their public comment for any items not on the agenda? >> t-mobile is planning on putting a store in that building. they have not applied. i just want you to know that it is happening. president miguel: is there additional public comment? if not, public comment is closed at a hearing is over. -- and the hearing is over.

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who is on the fence as a grand jury member to do so. as former supervisor and as mayor, it is equally valuable for people to participate as grand jury members -- to feel connected to the community in a meaningful way. this is a place where you can feel the kind of connection as a member of the grand jury, who is out there working in the interest of all san francisco's and holding in check members of our elected departments that need that kind of direction and advice from real people, not

people with an ax to grind. not people with particular self- interest, but people that want to make our city a better place. thank you for your inspiration. i am encouraged by the fact you have taken enough time to pay attention to this. i am hopeful that you participate in this process, which i assure you will have great meaning in your life. >> i am grateful for having had the experience of being on a civil grand jury, for the difference it has made for the city and in my own life, just being able to share the experiences i have had, to feel good about myself and what i have done for the citizens of this city. >> i found the grand jury rewarding because of the seriousness of the work and the prestige it gave me, the prestige of thing many of our elected officials, department heads, and many government employees work very -- were

very kind in extending to us. it was very exciting. >> what i found most gratifying was, first of all, being part of a group of 19 incredibly different san franciscans, with a different backgrounds, different amounts of education, all kinds of professions -- stay at home spouses -- it was a great mix. there were people i never would have met unless i had been part of that. the second thing that was incredibly interesting all year long were the investigations we were conducting with different agencies and departments of the city government. pulling together all of our different viewpoints in each of our presentations, and all our information and data -- we put that into a report. it was incredibly gratifying stuff. i guess the third gratifying thing was that in our

particular year, 2000-2003, we had a number of reports that really made a difference. >> the court is now accepting applications for the civil grand jury. this watchdog body is comprised of 19 citizens selected by my colleagues on the court. the grand jury is charged with conducting independent, confidential investigations of city departments, to insure these agencies are operating effectively and ethically. at the conclusion of its term, the grand jury publishes its reports and submits them to the presiding judge in to the departments that have been examined. departments have to respond to the findings of the grand jury and present their response at public hearings conducted by the board of supervisors. these hearings great public awareness and media attention for the challenges faced by city

departments and provide a forum for civil dialogue to propose solutions to issues confronting our government. reports about disaster preparedness, the department of building management, and the fire department have an influential effect on change in the improvement of city services. >> a new reports and valuable, not only as a mayor but as a member of the board of supervisors. poor me, it is always helpful to get a third set of eyes with someone else's perspective -- an objective perspective. grand jury reports provide that employee. i am someone that likes being challenged in terms of looking more critically at what we are doing in the city. i think grand jury reports provide the critical eye. i think the grand jury report that was most important from my perspective represented the first day i was in office as mayor.

that was the report done years ago about the readiness of our disaster plans in san francisco. one of the recommendations that was made was to update our emergency operations plans. there were a number of specific -- specific recommendations we have completed. the consequences -- we were in better shape from a planning perspective because of the grand jury and the work that was done in that report. >> the grand jury axe as a city watchdog to work that city agencies cannot be focusing on. over the years, and asking the tough questions that otherwise are not being asked. the civil grand jurors have the ability to ask questions of anything that they want within the city government.

they get to ask the tough probing questions that we need our citizens to be asking. >> to me, the best thing was the impact that was made on the knowledge of the city. >> one of the things that is mandated is to visit your jails. that was absolutely fascinated.

all of the jurors went out into the community and we observed a lot of precincts. it was a terrific observation. you get to meet most major officials including the mayor, members of the board of supervisors and their offices and department heads as well as having interviews with a variety of public and private sectors and many other agencies i don't know about. >> the followthrough was set for a particular concern to our grand jury. the toss grand jury reports have been given a great deal of

initial support and attention and it will not always follow through. this will allow future grand juries to track the project of support for key issue is. the mayor's office was very supportive of helping to develop this database and spreadsheet. >> we will begin to put things on line next year. we are improving our accountability. >> we have a very substantial debate about the reform.

there is a crisis in our pension system. in the jury, they take issues that for whatever reason, they're complicated. they do the analysis. at the board of supervisors, we hold hearings on the outcome of the findings of the reports. we can educate ourselves on the the good that we have done. >> i would say that the current board of supervisors seems to have an interest in implementing many of the issues that we raised. the future of the grand jury is very good. >> if you love the incredible community that we live then and we want to have a role in making it better and help serve the

public. i cannot think it better way to do this than to serve the grand jury. >> we all do what we have come to do continuity. continuity is making sure that any recommendations have been considered publicly. >> you think it is over there are ramifications for all of the hard work you have done. >> hello. the court is now recruiting specific grand jurors. we're looking to have a pool of

candidates. >> we want to provide a broad range of points on the civil grand jury. >> if you would like to work with others and it is yes dick citizens, i encourage you to consider applying for service on the civil grand jury. the civil grand jury.

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