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wait 25 minutes. however, the bus was occupied by the university student like san francisco state and city clean. she could not attend and she has difficulty for parking upon she been living here for more than -- 15 years. she save money for the house. right now the huge problem come over to her and many problems regarding the parking and traffic and security. translator: she say she saves money and try to be a peaceful home and peaceful life. she's not against the people that get welfare, however, she
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doesn't want those people to invade her privacy and safety. thank you. >> any additional public comment? s >> my name is peter bagatalas. i'm directly across the street from the project. we have owned this property for about 50 years. so we are -- we are not newcomers in this neighborhood. we know it very well. as you've heard this area is -- is very conjested. you have city college there. you have all of the traffic, all of the muni transportation, delivery trucks, you have people, you have -- you have fast food restaurants and chairman mccray jr.: donald's and beach burgers and everything else. what is being proposed here is to put more congestion in the area. i'm -- i'm -- i'm concerned as an owner there -- and excuse me.
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agree with the comments made by the other speakers. safety is a concern. this area needs police presence. i think that -- i think rather than reiterating the comments, i suggest one of the conditions imposed on this project if you do approve it is that you require full-time security to be provided as part of the project and there be a security guard on site to be able to monitor the kinds of incidents these ladies described and to head off any problems. graffiti, littering, loitering are all problems. these need to be addressed. they can't be just tucked under the carpet and ignored. as one lady said, when you put this kind of housing in an area, it -- it increases problems. it doesn't solve them necessarily. or does both. it creates some and solves
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others. i ask you to look at these issues. also on the face of it, i'm concerned about this -- this transfer of the hoop and having the buses go from where they currently are next to the fire station to going around the fire station. that doesn't sound to me, on its face to be safe. these buses break down. there's congestion andcars -- accidents. all sorts of things. what is going to happen if that bus, whatever it weighs is stuck in front of the intransway to the fire department. that truck can't get out and put out a fire in the neighborhood. so i don't know if that's been addressed or not. but that sounds on its face to me to be unsafe. i wouldn't want buses looping in front of a fire department innie michigan neighborhood. so, i would ask you again to -- to make sure that all of these issues have been looked into. parking lastly, i don't understand how you get by with five spaces, four sayses and one space for a zip car for 71 units.
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i don't understand that. they got a lot of bicycle spaces but make it a condition that the tenants have to use bike kells and can't use cars. include that in the conditional use permit. thank you so much. >> thank you. any additional public comment? seeing none. public comment is closed. commissioner borden. commissioner borden: i think we were developing a balboa plan, we were excited about the opportunity of new development in this area and this is such a great partnership with using city land, which we -- we have in scarce supply, to be able to provide affordable housing. i want to commend alberto heights and mercy and the agencies within the city that came together to make this a reality. we're sorely lacking affordable housing in the city. here the -- here is a great opportunity that we will be able to provide it. one nice feature, is there would be 21 units for foster youth, because that's amazing, the city college being close by, it is
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really great because we were talking about when we talked about housing, we hoped there would be housing opportunities for students at city college and so i think this is a really -- a nice -- a nice opportunity there. i think it is unfortunate that there's still a misperception among people that affordable housing brings crime and -- because there's -- there's, that's not true. particularly when it -- an organization like this, is a well established organization that runs amazing -- amazing facilities throughout the city. mercy as well. it -- the need for security all of those claims, they're not there. i mean they really run quality projects and the people who waited on these lists for such a long time to be able to have this affordable housing really cherish the opportunity to have an amazing place to live. i think there's a misnomer around what youee sazz -- see as rundown, existing rundown housing, public housing that may exist in areas as opposed to -- you know project where people. they scrape together their money
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to be able to be -- and wait a long time on a list to have an opportunity to have a nice home. just like other people did to have their homes. it can't be underscored enough how important this need is and how people don't need to have this fear about the types of people that live in affordable housing. i think it is really unfortunate there's this misperception out there and that sort of way. i think that -- the collaborative nature of the project also shows the commitment by the city and everyone involved to make this a really adequate project. the architecture is amazing. i love the cord yard and the play area for the -- for the kids, the families that are going to be in this building. i think that this -- this is exactly the kind of housing that we want to see more of. we wish we had more land to make available to have these projects happen. i'm so excited about the way that things are coming e -- things are coming together, if you can't put parking on this site, what kind of site could
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you put this on. i don't understand that. >> i move to approve this project. and i look for a second. >> second. i like to support commissioner moore's comments on the housing. it is not a public housing, it is p.u.d. p.u.d. means something else. having said that, i think this is an incredible effort by all city agencys. the man is fantastic. i love the idea of transforming really -- a -- pavement to park into a three dimensional manifestation of that idea and finding across the city sites which could do the same thing. obviously we have the most competent architecture do this work, mr. herman indeed shines with his contributions to innovative site planning and housing solutions in this particular category. i couldn't be happier to support this project. i do think this -- we should,
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though, be aware of the neighborhoods concerns. that's fair and that's request we're sitting here. i do think when we approved the pal boa park plan that we -- with ask for city college do really start coordinating parking efforts and really deal with students not completely conjesting neighborhoods. we had that the other day at san francisco university and i do think that there has to be a little push back toward the institution, particularly as that area will take on a different shape to help with balancing neighborhood feeds with institutional needs and get that better organized. so -- in enlargement of the -- of the community's concerns, there should be some effort by the institution. on the other hand, the decisions we make here are not in support of facilitating onstreet surface parking lots. that's not what we we do.
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we encourage everybody to wean themselves from the use of their cars and rely on public transportation and if m.t.a. needs to reexamine how the neighborhood is served by -- by buses and -- frequency of buses in support of the neighbors and in support of using -- using -- less of their own car, i would be in support of that. but this project has my full support -- that's it. >> commissioner antonini. >> i hope this project can begin a process that is similar to what we have seened aings mission bay and king street. now that's a different, it is not necessarily analogous because that's new construction because we have a neighborhood here and we're cognizant of that. housks what is going to be present here and is present at the other site is a blend -- and -- somewhat seamless blend at mission bay of affordable
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housing, market rate housing, ownership housing and rental housing. that's a form has that i think works really well. in fact, this is a really good use of in lieu fees. it is -- it is a good argument for the fact that you don't necessarily have to provide all of your affordable housing on site, if you could provide a blend of market rate in close proximity to each other, you're doing the same thing and probably in a more cost effective way. i think that's good. for some of the other concerns. -- it speaks accurately about parking. i'm not sure the fact that you're only providing four parking spots, i forget the number was for 71 units here, in that range, maybe a couple more, might be unrealistic. i don't know that the assumption that because it is 100% affordable project, there won't be cars may not be an assumption that is justified. housks that's what is proposed. that can be tried and then i
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would like to see the city keep an eye on it and see what happens with -- with the project and others like it? what is the real ratio of car ownership? are we being unrealistic in our approval of projects with so little parking. i think that would be -- something to watch for the future. and in terms of the security -- security is something that you know, it is a problem regardless and is not necessarily tied to this project but i think that -- that -- you no there's a close proximity to engelside station and if there are problems with loitering, with threatening and intimidation, these are citywide problems in many places and you know, this may be something to be soft in other ways, with -- with you know, legislation or -- or more police presence or other things but -- i hear what the neighborhood is saying. i think that it is important that -- that anywhere we have -- we provide security and -- and we also make sure that -- that
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we make neighborhoods safer. as we do these things. i'm sn in support of this. i like to add those caveat that is we kind of keep an eye on what really happens and what is the reality of car ownership and -- make sure, you know, that we're not creating more congestion. thank you. >> cop missioner lee. >> something -- especially and chinese neighbors, speaking chinese. she's afraid to go outside her house. the issue with the housing we're doing here. it doesn't mean that because they're foster kids or afford ablingable housing that they're the criminal element because we have a lot of that in chinatown. now in other places. the lady mentioned she worked down in 0 ferrell, and that -- that area, was harassed but you have a right to always call 911. i don't understand it, if you're afraid to leave your house, from where you live now. i was out there quite a bit. i worked there with the fire
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department and also the -- the community clean out there. so, with the chinese out there, you have to understand too, i know you have some fears, given what has been happening at bay view and over in location okeland, your supervisors -- your supervisor is good with law and order, shaun ellsbury understands where you are coming from. you don't have that crime element that you think you have down there. i know many of you feel intimidated because of it. you have to understand, you need to get along with your neighbors also. san francisco, just not asian oriented. your neighborhood, used to be african-american and italians that you needed to go out and meet. regarding the issue of -- of parking -- i agree that area is -- is pretty dense. we have a public library at one time we rented out and people were can bing, you couldn't go to the public library there. and so, i think -- i think what the staff needs to do. the mayor's office is actually trying to figure a way with
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community college -- to increase the parking. the students dog don't going than -- go on people's streets. finally, i think the neighborhood also has to understand that -- this is a pivotal area here. we're rebuilding it. this is going to be a brand new -- it is going to be parts of it is going to be housing. this frankly is the first of -- many will go into the area and actually make the area be much safer. director? >> i just wanted to -- i just wanted to say if this is kind of personally gratifying to see this come forward because it is an outgrowth of the plan. it is kind of -- it is great to see the planning process that -- that happened over many years, and ken richards here to kind of nod his head and take credit for this. it is great to see a project with direct implementation of the man that you adopted last year and the support adopted as well and to see it move forward.
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almost in the exact form that we anticipated. i just -- i just wanted to say that i'm personally gratified to see this move forward. i want to thank everyone for their role in making that happen. >> commissioner sugaya. >> i like to add my support to -- to the other commissioners in the project and -- and -- i won't go any further. as my parents who by the way lived in this exact same type of housing for some portion of their lives, used to say don't say things you'll regret later. so -- i won't continue. >> i want to also -- echo the comments of -- of commissioner borden and commissioner moore and the other commissioners. i think it is an excellent project. sometimes it is a little
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unsettling when -- when we hear members of the public sort of characterized -- characterize people in low income housing as being sort of guilty of you know -- potentially you know crime ridden or whatever. i think as commissioner borden pointed out, that's not accurate, that most people would be greatful -- grateful to have a beautiful new home to be in. it is really -- it is really nice to see that -- there -- there will be units provided to -- to -- i don't know emancipated use. i know that the politically correct term that is out there. and so i think that is really heartening because -- there's -- there isn't enough of that in the city, god knows. then sometimes -- we have had a transit first policy in place for sometime. sometimes i'm concerned that we don't really apply our policies in a real way. we kind of say, we have the policy but -- you know, we see it how. it sort of touted and it is never really applied to any
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projects. so it is good to see that this project is very much in -- in keeping with that spirit. you know, the neighbors, i'm glad we acknowledged concerns. but many of those seem like they're pre-existing and have nothing to do with the -- with the site. and so hopefully, they can talk to -- to ingleside or their supervisors or something. and try to find some -- some -- some result to the issues. but, i think it is a great project. so -- >> call the question. >> commissioners, motion on the floor for approval. with that motion, commissioner antonini. >> eye eye aye aye aye yee aye aye aye aye thank you commissioners, the motion passed unanimously. >> commissioners we're taking 15 out of order. case number 2008. 1230 i street.
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>> good afternoon. i'm >> good afternoon. i'm rick crawford at the department staff. this case is an institutional master plan for st. francis memorial hospital, pursuant to planning code, 304.5 within the district. the i.e.p. has been reviewed by the health commission. it generally agrees with the findings of the health planner review. the planning of the discussions and the hospital's compliance with 1953, the seismic retro fit law and the improvements to the surgical suites at the hospital. the i.m.p. includes a discussion of the program that the hospital wishs to undertake. they'll bring that program back to the commission in -- for a future approval. i want to point out an error under the discussion of the environmental review. the -- the case number is incorrect and also, the -- they're doing a deck and not
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e.i.r. we want to close the hearing and not take any other actions. >> project sponsor? >> good afternoon. i'm abby from st. francis memorial hospital. i'm delighted to be here today to -- to answer any questions that you may have about our institutional master plan. it is very straightforward, -- i -- so i'm just here to take any questions that you might have. >> great, thank you. >> like to open it up for public comment on this -- this institutional master plan issue. >> matt? >> item 15. >> i think there was confusion because the other one also i believe is for the other item. so -- okay. thank you. any public comment on the i.m.p. at this time? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners. commissioner borden? >> i move to close the hearing
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and accept the i.m.p. >> second. >> antonini. thank you, i'm in agreement with that. i thought it was well done and i particularly liked the history of the buildings. and i thought we were -- we were fortunate to have combination of some very good newer architecture on 1199, bush and then 909 hyde which i'm hopeful -- i think has a lot of historic potential -- and it can remain as part of the plan for st. francis in the future. i think it is a wonderful building. thank you. >> commissioner moore? >> excellent document. gives full disclosure. i encourage the commissioners to put it in their files because this is a type of example i like to see for the academy,s -- this type of disclosure. i like to use it as an example. that's what we're expecting. >> thank you. >> with that, the -- this item is closed. i guess or finished?
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we're taking a -- we'll be back at 10 till. we'll be back in a half hour. >> commissioners generally you don't need a motion to -- to expect the item. this is -- it is okay. >> closing the hearing. that's what we do. >> the decision has been made but to further action will be taken. thank you. the planning commission is in recession for foe 30 minutes. until 10 -- until 10 until 6:00.
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