so it's a great place. greg, talk to us about what you would have done differently when you first started to experience problems. well, i mean, i think that, you know, as an individual going through adolescence i didn't, you know, i didn't reason, i don't reason, i don't fear, you know, it's the science of it, you know, i do what feels good. and that's true adolescence. so i don't know necessarily, you know, i could say that i as an individual would have done something differently at 14 or 15. i mean, obviously i could have made better choices, you know, but it's that support system around me that could have helped to influence like, you know, if i was in a public school that had a peer support model, you know, i would have been acknowledging the consequences of my addiction earlier, you know, because i just, you know, at 16, i just liked to party, you know, that was what i said and that's what i believed. and i was in denial that, you know, because i liked

to party, i was cut from the baseball team. i was in denial that now i'm getting "c"s in school, you know, that it was related. i didn't have any, you know, i really didn't want to believe that and i didn't have any idea, where, from an outsider it's obvious, you know, what's going on. but for me as an adolescent, you know, i never connected it. mark, do you use student assistance programs? do you tap them; do you tap other resources, community resources? student assistance programs are a vital part of a continuum of care and it accesses young people at an early age and one of the things we know is that if we can access young people when they're initially starting to develop the problem that we can short circuit the length of time that they'll have problems and that's a huge finding so that the average amount of time they'll have problems is far less. so student assistance programs are vitally important. unfortunately, student assistance programs are

not in abundance. and as states have experienced revenue shortfalls, that's one of the first areas they cut. in my home state of illinois, we've cut funding for student assistance or early intervention programs because the state is always going to see their mission first as taking care of the sickest of the sick. but it's a vitally important component and so we need to have that for that early intervention and those kinds of programs can and are successful. i think, you know, you've hit on something that i think every single state...i was just listening to a radio show yesterday and they were talking about the dire circumstances, budgetary circumstances that many of the states...under that particular outlook, fran, what really should families be looking to? in other words, if in fact they don't have student assistance programs, if in fact the treatment system

is going to be affected by budgetary constraints, what can we tell our audience to do under those circumstances? first and foremost, look to see if you have one of those community coalitions near you, because the federal government, we're putting a lot of money and we're working in great partnership with the office of national drug control policy, the u.s. department of education, the u.s. department of justice and of course, samhsa, to bring dollars to the local level so people can come together. if there isn't a coalition, parents could consider bringing people together themselves and going online to the samhsa web site and be able to learn how to bring a coalition together, who should be there at the table, how do i get expertise, and it's very accessible. we have a facebook page now. everything is becoming far easier to approach and

to get our messages out. have the power of a coalition of every single person in a community that touches a child come together and talk about what needs to be done and then learn the tools of bringing in, to do an assessment as we do in treatment, we do in the community, we can then begin the process and start. our new health reform legislation is going to help us because we are bringing in the attention and the dollars to support the funding for prevention, for treatment, and for recovery services. so our future is very bright but a parent needs to see that they are in the driver's seat and that no one program is going to do it. so bringing multiple kinds of approaches together throughout the continuum is the best advice i think we can give parents. i could just illustrate what fran's talking about in our hometown of bloomington, illinois. we have a parent coalition that was supported in part by samhsa's funding and one of the things they've

done is they've created a parent-to-parent network. and they sign up and they agree to notify each other about parties and to check things out and one of the most gratifying things when my daughter was in high school and she was having a party, we got a call from a parent who wanted to check out to make sure that we were going to be there and that it was on the up and up. so they're effective? well it can be effective and it's a good thing, you bet. okay. final thoughts, monique. well, i think that there's a lot of hope out there for adolescents and young adults that are struggling with addiction and i also think there's a lot of hope in providing prevention and intervention for those students at an earlier age to prevent or delay the onset of use and ultimately we're going to have healthier students and adults. greg, your thoughts. i think just, you know, we need to move away from sort of this punitive, you know, don't talk about it,

kind of hide it from everybody, you know, because it's happening, it exists and until we accept it as a society and communities that alcohol and drugs is an issue, you know, we're not going to address it and we're not going to be able to solve, you know, it as a, as it really is, a public health crisis. and that recovery is in fact possible through adequate treatment and family supports. thank you for being here. we've had a great show. i want to remind our audience that september is national alcohol and drug addiction recovery month and we celebrate it every september. we want you to get involved, get engaged, and support those in recovery and those who serve them. thank you for being here. for a copy of this program or other programs in the road to recovery series, call samhsa at 1-800-662-help or order online at recoverymonth.gov and click "multimedia."

every september, national alcohol and drug addiction recovery month provides an opportunity for communities like yours to r raise awareness of alcohol and drug use disorders and highlight the effectiveness of treatment. in order to help you plan events and activities in commemoration of this year's recovery month observance, the free recovery month kit offers ideas, materials, and tools for planning, organizing, and realizing an event or outreach campaign that matches your goals and resources. to obtain your copy of this year's recovery month kit and gain access to other free publications and materials related to addiction treatment and recovery issues, visit the recovery month web site at www.recoverymonth.gov or call 1-800-622-help.

it's important that everyone become involved because addiction is our nation's number one health problem and treatment is our best tool to address it.

second installment of city eaks. it is a series of discussions on policy issues and pollutions affecting the city of san francisco. about a month and a half ago we had the discussion. we have 2 wonderful conversationalist and more

details on their bios on your programs. by way of introduction, alice waters is the founder and owner of chez panisse restaurant in berkeley, california and vice president of flow food internation. ms. waters is a board member of the san francisco and bringing organic local food to the general public, also the author of 9 cook books and championed all local organic farms and ranches for more than 3 decades. most recent book is the art of simple cooking. mayor gavin newsom has brought fresh ideas and renewed ideas to the city and county of san francisco known internationally

for his environmental records. he has paid attention to his healthy food to partner in public schools in healthy food programs. let's almost mayor gavin newsom and ms. alice waters. [applause] >> after you. all right. the carpet even is soft and cuddling. thank you, all of you and to our great librarian, thank you very much for helping organize this and hosting this and for your kind introduction, and alice, welcome, to what i hope and expect will be very painless. but nonetheless, a very

important conversation. before we get started, just logistically, about 15 minutes before our time expires, i would love to take your specific questions, send them down to the end and we'll get as many questions, your specific questions in by the end of the hour, depending, i'll gauge the room to see how uncomfortable the room is looking, thank you and welcome for being here. now the question is, what is a new jersey born, berkeley graduate doing in 1971 opening up a restaurant with no restaurant experience? >> well, that is a good question. [laughter] a really good question.

um -- i just wanted to live in a different way. i went to france. when i came back i wanted to eat differently. i wanted to be in the world a different way. i thought if i opened a little restaurant, i could feed my friends, because they were all eating at my house and not paying. [laughter] i thought there it was. a little neighborhood space. i put it in a house. and i was naive enough to think that i could open under $10,000. we went immediately $40,000 in debt. [laughter]. >> welcome to the restaurant business. >> but i think people really

helped something about the restaurant. i wasn't in it for the money. in fact, i really wasn't. thank goodness i had a guardian angel who saved me. >> what drove you? here we are 1971, many, many years later, you seem arguably, you seem more passionate than you did yesterday. didn't know you in 1971 or even myself, what was the passion, the drive, what was it about food and what is it about food that matters so much to you? >> when i went to france, i really felt like i hadn't eaten before. i grew up in new jersey on frozen food. my mother wasn't a good cook.

yes, we had to come to the dinner table. it wasn't anything to do with with, a pleasurable able, -- she didn't know anything about cooking. when i went to france, i felt like this whole world opened to me. i had an awakening, the vegetables and cafes and warm bread and oysters on the half shell, little cafes where i could hang out with my friends and have conversations. it was woven into the fabric of life. it wasn't unusual to go to the market a couple of times of day

because you wanted the fresh vegetables. you ate with your family and friends. they came home and had a 2-hour lunch with their family. i fell in love. i came back. it was as simple as that. i started to cook. fortunately, i picked up elizabeth david's book. i digested everything she told me. a lot about eating and seasoning food that is right. i connected in that way. i was able to feed my friends. they loved this. reu didn't really know how to cook. i made a lot of chocolate moose.

that led into everything else. i have been on the fringes of the free speech movement in berkeley before. i was ascended by the way people gathered and ate. i just thought, there must be a better way. a more delicious way. [laughter]. so i thought, well, i'll open a restaurant and feed my friends and their friends. who knew that this would be something so strikingly different than what was going on out there. >> here we are in the 1970s, is it the fast foodification?

mcdonalds? burger king, they'll have it their way? >> i was looking for real food. i was really looking for the green beans that i had in france. you go to the market and couldn't find the green beans. i thought, those weren't the green beans. they didn't taste like the french. i had a passion about flavor. philosophically, i wasn't thinking about where the sustainable farms were. i was looking for taste and ended upright there on the doorstep of the local [inaudible], so it happened

organically? [laughter] did you have a lot of choice? was there the network? organic farmers all around? >> closest was frozen. they were hanging up there. they were fishing and food out in front. i started looking in the markets, first. then um -- a friend who ate at the restaurant said, i see you want radishes and you want french things, i am growing french breakfast radishes in my backyard. i said bring them in, we can make a trade. you can have lunch.

i planted in my backyard and grew salad, the infamous mescaline salad. it was a little mix of wild greens brought in by the peasant to the market outside of nize. >> so it happened like that. when you started searching for sustainable produce, not the way it is produced or harvested, but sustainable in being available seasonably, consistently, there were -- if

you commitment to the next 5 then? >> that did ultimately happen. we with thought we could get these seeds and a plot of land and have everything we want. we quickly learned we were not farmers. [laughter] and the gofers got the best of us. [laughter] we planted in this little one micro climate in amadora. >> why there? >> because somebody had a plot of land, we'd put in the seeds and all of these things. we learn it had hard way, and we decided that we would have um -- somebody assigned to the job of going out of the forger and looking for the farms that

were growing the food we with wanted. isabella was the first who ultimately led to the opening of the san francisco farmer's market. she new some farms, a few, already. she was cooking at the restaurant and knew what we wanted. and we started that way, just a couple. now we have 85 different people we buy from during the course of the year. some of them are very little and some of them grow all of our salads. >> any farmer's markets back then? 1970s? >> i forget about the timing of these things. i think, probably they were given with a couple of people, you knew in the 1970s.

>> there are critics at the time. typically restaurants? were there critics in the agricultural industry? people that didn't like the message? >> there were critics, i didn't pay any attention. something very important happened back then, in the year, the early 1980s. we celebrated the 20s. the anniversary of the produce. it brought together farmers and we had our first meeting 25 years ago at greens. and um that sort of lead to the following year, where we

cooked for the farmer. the next year there were 50 farmers. then the next year, there were like 200 farmers. we had it down at the museum in oakland. the oakland museum. eurt became a huge successful event. >> what kind of descriptive direction were you giving some of these farmers? everything is organic. certified this, certified that. i imagine there is a lot of

false advertising. >> i suspect there is. i am looking for people that really, really care. really believe in this. it is not so much for me. you know that, to the letter certifications. it is know that we share the same values. it is a beautiful thing. you get to know these farmers and what they care about. >> let's talk about values. food and values. that is what makes this conversation, i think, unique. not food in the context to satisfy hunger, the philosophy with food. what is your value orientation that relates to food? what is it that drives, we are going to talk more about soul food nation, school of the arts, the manifestations of this. what are those values? >> i have this theory, that um,

that when you eat everyday, that there are a set of values that come with the food that we eat. so when you are out there, eating in fast food nation, and you are kind of, you know, eating in your car, quickly grabbing something, you are digesting, the sort of advertisement, the message from the person making that food. they are telling you, basically, that food should be the same no matter where you are. and that hamburgers and hot dogs are actually good for you. and they are telling you advertising can first value.

there is always more where that came from. don't worry, resources are infinite. they are telling you food should be available 24 hours a day and eating with your family and friends is not important. that food should be fast, cheap, and easy. >> right. >> so i just understood a whole different set of values by eating differently. >> what are those values? >> food is precious. that um --, it is important to restore the land because that is where our food comes from. farmers are precious. and that um, nourishing

ourselves and others is an activity that is unlike anything else. and that there is um, something really important to offering food to people that don't have it. and i could go on. >> and those values led you to desire to educate others to the one you were sharing with many other people at the time and turned your attention to educating a generation that you referred to as the first generation, not to sit down at the family table. and you have discussed a lot of what that means. it is actually an interesting point of view. this generation hasn't had that construct that previous

generations as it relates to the family relationships around the table. you started the edible schoolyard. a movement that transcends your first schoolyard that happens to be here, the city and county of san francisco. talk to us a little bit about that. [laughter]. >> are you speaking of the garden project at the san francisco county jail? >> that was a second step. i met katherine sneed about 20 years ago. she had this project, the garden project at the san francisco county jail. she called me up one day and said, you know,