there until these these issues had been resolved. that is why at that time, that is how it was presented. that is why i had concerns about having the meetings with the partners. i knew we would end up with this sort of a thing, which if you look at kraft page 20, it does read like -- i don't know. i will not go through it now. if we have these hearings, where some of these issues are -- they will not be resolved, obviously, and those are issues that will be heard at the board of supervisors, people feel more at ease in sang, come back in a month for the approval, or whatever. that is all. that is kind of what -- looking

at what we have here, and knowing we have an approval in less than 30 days, i don't feel this is ready for prime time yet. president miguel: what i'm trying to find out, would you like to hear the first of hearings on the development agreement, or would you like that after hearings on more of the specifics of the plan? commissioner olague: the order is not -- a father wrote -- if others have an opinion -- want to hear both. president miguel: i agree. >> if i could make a comment? there has been concern on the topic of renter protection and that issue. that is dealt with in the development agreement. it is a reasonable concern about that not being spelled out in

writing. we are concerned about prolonging the discussion so that people have some protections. maybe we could do some overview of the project and get into that, and maybe deal with that specific issue. we have the concern where some people do not feel it is being addressed. i would like to have some other hearing -- commissioner sugaya: i would like to have some other hearings first. also, with respect to the housing issue, it would seem we want to consider and hear about the plan's relationship to housing element. commissioner olague's concern, before we delve into how it will be implemented. we have not discussed what the

percentages are. agreeable? so, you know, it would seem that the kind of thing commissioner moore was talking about in terms of tackling these documents with staff input from both planning and other agencies -- i would like to include a reservation in that. this is a historic resource. we have not heard much about that today. it would seem that that would be an integral part of any presentation that would be made to us. if we could schedule those in some orderly manner, then that -- commissioner moore: i would like to suggest a compromise position that addresses that goal. i would like to hear your being present -- this presentation about the physical plant and

help educate us toward those things, which ultimately come in your mind, drove into the basic structure of the development agreement. in that candid dialogue, you are approaching it as a professional with a vast background in development. you know the planning, planning policy, and it is a way to build buildings. i would like to hear you be present in these meetings to advise the commission. this is something we are strongly concerned about. it would be very good to have you present here, and also start explaining the position in which you ultimately take those concerns in the development agreement. that would be helpful to me. there is a real correlation between the practicality of a physical plant and the theoretical legal nature of the

development. president miguel: commissioner antonini? >> thank you. i am delighted to do that. my concern is that we need to start somewhere, with an overview of the entire project. i would not want to do that divorced from some brief overview of the development agreement. i would like to suggest some joint presentation, perhaps, as a starter. i would like to have that on the agenda, where we can both give you an overview of the components of the plan. commissioner moore: i love the idea. it just has to be balanced. it can be very strong and convincing. none of us are lawyers. we aren't. to pretend like we could fast track these things with you --

our support occurs when we fully understand the plan in all of its details. balance it, and you have an open door to do that kind of thing. >> we would like to request your permission to make that kind of presentation. it could be a hybrid presentation. it could be an overview of the development agreement. this is my educated guess. when we are finally able to present like this, a lot of the concerns we are hearing today, i hope a lot of them will be addressed. there has been an incredible amount of work from all of the agencies involved here, and a lot of careful thought. i am not suggesting there is not more to be done. commissioner moore: we don't have anything against this project. president miguel: thank you. commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: what i'm

hearing from the commission -- correct me if i'm wrong -- there is an agreement that we would have an informational presentation on both the development agreement and on the project itself, without necessarily any action being taken. there would be no action. you would be able to see both things and have another hearing, at least one more informational hearing after that. the question i have this, where does initiation fit into that? is that enough to satisfy commissioners to initiate? do we do the initiation after those hearings? maybe i could have some answers from the other commissioners on this. commissioner moore: the first thing i would say, i would like to pick up on the hybrid presentation. that is important to me. that requires work that has never been done. it allows us to comprehend the project. the second one is my own preference, if you are going

around, i would prefer to have initiation following these presentations. >> is that your feeling? commissioner sugaya: that is fine with me. commissioner olague: i have -- should we continue? this is an action item on the agenda. what is the appropriate way to deal with that? do we continue to a later date? is there a suggested date? the fourth and the 18th? would we consider the initiation on the 18th? >> i would like staff to take a stab on how they feel they can

cover all of these documents, whether it is -- i understand the initial meeting will be the hybrid kind of presentation. we will get the overview and get into parts of the physical plant. -- plan. it may take more than one other meeting to go over the design structure and all of that. i don't want to go beyond the initial meeting. maybe two beyond that. it would be perfectly adequate. >> would you continue to early december? >> yes. >> could i have a date for continuance? do we have the first or second week in december? >> your schedule is the last two hearings.

>> let's continue the initiation to december 9. that is a motion. that is contingent on having the workshops fit into the existing schedule. >> that is good. president miguel: is very second? >> i will second. >> i have lost my vote log. commissioners, on the motion for a continuance of initiation until the ninth of december, commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner borden: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner sugaya: aye. president miguel: aye. >> thank you, commissioners. vietminh's continued -- the item

is continued. president miguel: and with that, the hearing is adjourned. special hearing.

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