game, some of the homes along the hill are very attractive. i think it is really important that we have this dovetailed together as commissioner moore was saying. we need dovetail onthe -- on the improvements. it should be at least a light rail going all the way through the service of hunters point and coming around, connecting. that makes all of these things work and it gives definition to the developers, they know exactly where things are going to be and when it will happen. i think we are moving in the right direction. this is a very important subject. i am hoping we will be calendaring more in the future.

the next item deals with the draft environmental. there will be the project coming forward. i heard concerns of the one speaker and making sure the heights are corporate and things that together well. height is important. we have to figure out how to make it work. president miguel: commissioner moore? commissioner moore: i would like to hear more disclosure about what happens to the existing buildings. this one dominate the entire set him. other office buildings, i only see it indicated in the eir diagram on figure two. perhaps the planning department could give some preliminary design presentation to the commission. i think that would be helpful. we don't have to wait until the last day when we say, we did not know anything about this

project. perhaps there is an update to us that the public would appreciate. it could be very helpful. president miguel: i have some basic problems with some of the material. i am looking at statistics and i find some engrossed for residential. i find others in a number of residential units. there is no consistency in the information that i see supplied. that disturbs me. i am not satisfied with the transportation options. i am looking at a map of parking spaces for the project. yes, theoretically, we are trying to go to mass transit. i am not satisfied the mass transit that is proposed at the

moment is anywhere near sufficient. they are talking perhaps a thousand residents, let alone the commercial and the office in the space. i would not like to see an isolated community. at the moment, i have great fear is in that regard. i don't want -- we have got away from that, hopefully. we have had examples of that japan -- of that going back to the projects we are doing now, taking what were isolated communities and bringing them back into the city. whatever one thinks about it, it was an auto-centric isolated

community, and not as much as this. are we creating another isolated situation here? that bothers me. i am not satisfied a solution has been presented at this point. commissioner sugaya? commissioner sugaya: this is an extremely difficult side to work with, given the freeway on one side and that hill situation, and the unknowns with the stadium rearing its continuing head, so to speak. commissioner antonini would love to have it there. anyway, it is a difficult site. to echo what commissioner moore and others have said, for me, it seems that, given that kind of isolation, we should not try to isolate it even more.

some additional consideration of connections, i guess, and how it relates, especially to the east, since that seems to be the most direct connection at the moment, away from the freeway, and to encourage, i think, some additional information, as commissioner moore suggested, back to the commission would be great. commissioner moore: while we have on the east side a project that was guided by a development agreement, and has set in stone obligations that will have to be realized over a time frame, i would be interested to see how these communities, these two new communities, really interact. it is to not -- it is not just two lines in the sand. 8000 new residents in this area have any chance of becoming a neighborhood -- what are we

encouraging more asking by code that appears in terms of commercial support? where would be the obligatory small neighborhood shops, which hardly ever happens? what do we need in terms of kindergarten, child care, elementary school, etcetera? these people are supposed to live here. if these things are not provided, where do we find enough room for them to be accommodated? this tax on to president miguel's comment. this requires a lot of push from the planning department in order to not have this look like a 1950's high-density something else residential development. >> as you all point out, the typography and highway make this

challenging. i think when i hear you talk about the connections, it is not just physical connections. to the east, there is only one road that connects. it is a question of making that the best possible connection it can be. what i also hear you saying is we should make sure there are institutional connections, public services. maybe the thing that we can do is map those out in a simple way to understand what is out there in the broader community, certainly what is planned for the shipyard and candlestick point, and understand how these residents would be using the services that exist in that part of the city. we can do that. president miguel: ok. commissioner sugaya? commissioner sugaya: thank you for that comment. that is the direction i was aiming at. i was just reminded that earlier

in the day, we had a discussion about fees and that kind of thing, and whether or not this community center, that is supposedly in the middle of this thing, is going to be there or not be there. maybe it does not need to be there. maybe it can be provided further to the east. maybe not. that development, maybe this community center could supply facilities for the development further to the east. i don't know. but, i think you got the idea. commissioner moore: this is something i was not aware of. candlestick point state recreation area, at least on the furthest western part, stretching probably for two or three blocks in length, is about

10 feet above harney way. there is no physical connection between the neighborhoods and this park. i think the state park itself is very much puzzled about what to do. that is the existing physical condition. they do not know how to do it. there has to be an incredibly integrated effort from all parts. -- from all departments, from anybody with creative ideas, to figure out how to tie this together and make it work for the different demands being put on to this particular area. president miguel: commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: the biggest thing we have to have is to put all the pieces together and make it all work. there is the waste facility and

recycling facilities, that are in very close proximity -- proximity. we have to figure out the transportation peace. hopefully, the light rail and others, the geneva bart eventually coming all the way through -- little hollywood is a distinct neighborhood with a park and two schools, if i am not mistaken, and a church. you have the brisbane baylands there. i think it could all work together involving two counties. i think there is a lot of potential. the more we can get a cooperative effort going and have hearings that include all of these things at one time, it would be really good. >> thank you. with that, we can move to item 20 on your calendar. it is case number 2006.0422e.

it is the executive park amended subarea plan and the yerby company and universal paragon corp. development project. >> good evening. i am from the planning department major environmental analysis. this is a hearing to receive comments on the draft eir. the executive park amended subarea plan and the yerby company and universal paradigm corp. development projects. staff is not here to answer comment today. comments will be transcribed and responded to in writing in the comments and responses document, which will respond to all verbal and written comments received. this is not a hearing to consider approval or disapproval of the project.

that hearing will follow the final eir certification. comments today should be directed to the adequacy and accuracy of information contained in the drafty i are. comment should speak slowly and clearly so the court reporter can produce an accurate transcript. , mentors should speak their name and address so they may be properly identified and sent a copy of the responses. after hearing comments from the public, we will take any public -- any comments from the planning commission. the public comment period began and extends until 5:00 p.m. on november 29. this concludes my presentation on this matter. unless the commissioners have any questions, i would suggest that the public hearing be opened. president miguel: is there any

public comment on item number 20? seeing none, public comment is closed. i would ask the secretary if a transcript of the commissioner's comment on item 19 be submitted in regards to item 20. >> the court reporter did not record those comments. president miguel: i think they are quite pertinent to this item, rather than have everything totally repeated. >> ok. she has agreed to do that. president miguel: good. thank you very much. otherwise, we will be repeating the same thing directly. i think they're totally pertinent for item 20. thank you. commissioner sugaya? commissioner sugaya: are we done

with this subject? commissioner moore: i would like to add a generic comment. it is the unspecific nature on which this entire er -- eir is based, but which i do not think is fully grafphed the way one would traditionally look at impact. president miguel: i absolutely agree with you. it is floating out there, so nebulous. it is difficult to get a handle on anything. commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: the eir does what it has to do. some of it is nebulous because we are not exactly sure how the pieces are fitting together. i think what was done here is about the best you can do based upon what we have up this point in time. we did mention earlier about the

fact that, in the testimony, both yerby and ubc have been patient during this process. part of it was held up for a while because of the approval process going to the access issues and other considerations as part of the hunters. and candlestick point approvals we had last year. we can really move forward. >> with that, comments will be accepted at the planning department office until the close of business on november 29, 2010. that includes the public hearing on the draft environmental impact report. president miguel: because there are only four commissioners, i will be forced to take a very short, 15-minute break. >> thank you.