>> i would like to call the meeting to order. second item please.

>> [roll call] 0 commissioners are present. -- all commissioners are present. president vietor: i would like to welcome commissioner courtney. pleased to have you. next item. >> the approval of the minutes of the december 10 special joint meeting. are there any additions or corrections? president vietor: a motion? >> so moved. >> second. president vietor: questions, comments, amendments? all those in favor? motion carries. >> general public comment. members of the public may address the commission on items

that are not on today's agenda. we have no speaker cards, but i see a speaker. >> i just wanted to say hello to the commissioners, it is great to have a full commission. we are excited about commissioner courtney. we think it will be a big year. we are excited about all of the commissioners, it will be an exciting year. and the caliber and expertise that is on this commission, a lot of people in the disadvantaged communities are working together to help accomplish the commission's mission. president vietor: thank you for those comments. any other public comment? next item. >> the commissioners have

received copies of all the communications listed in the letter summary. additionally, you will have a revised letter summary with three additional communications that were received after it was posted. the commissioners have received all of the print copies and electronic copies hundred staff report-- under staff report. president vietor: questions or comments? >> i have a comment on the calendar. commissioner caen: i can't find it, but i think we have lost our statement. we have all of this excess real- estate we have not moved on. i would like to bring that forward. >> we are expecting that that

will come up on the february a calendar -- 8 calendar. we will keep that to one month from now. as a reminder, this is a month that we are asking for a lot of time and attention. the budget hearings will be on the fourth floor, not in this building. both meetings start at 9:30 in the morning. on the twenty fifth, we have a regular meeting for the commission scheduled and we do not think we need that meeting. if you want to discuss that here and now, we can cancel it if you like. on the twenty seventh, we have the capital discussion.

the planning commission should be hearing the environmental review that day. we were hoping that to happen in the planning commission and then have it come to us. we have reserved a room in this building in the morning, but we are not expecting it to happen. we have meetings scheduled at 9:30 on february 3 and the regular meeting on february 8. those meetings are to finalize discussions in the budget and adopt it. you can decide whether you want to cancel the meeting in february 3 or have it that day. we are asked a lot of questions, and that is why we have scheduled that meeting in case you want to have a more involved in discussion of some of the

questions. we can see how far we have gotten and get to february 3 or just go to february 8. we have to fit in the mayor's schedule for delivering a budget in the middle part of february. the meeting at the end is a good time for it. we will be asking for discussion given your direction for what you want us to come back with or answer questions if you want us to answer. the first question is on the 25, we don't believe that you have to have a meeting that day unless you believe you need an extra meeting for budget discussions or other items. it doesn't seem to cause any difficulty in terms of timing. president vietor: because we would move a couple of items

from the 25 to the 27, starting that meeting a little bit earlier? >> we can do that. one item cannot be voted on until the planning commission gets to it. it might be at least the middle of the afternoon. president vietor: can we get everything done starting at 1:00? gosh i think so. president vietor: and we can move on to the proceedings? >> it has not caused any issues. other things are simple updates. it is really the capital discussion. we have a very flat budget and we are not proposing to do a lot

of different things. some of those discussions might be less involved. you might want to rearrange what it is we are left doing. president vietor: commissioners? commissioner torres: i was in sacramento yesterday for the swearing in of commissioner courtney, and i had a chance to speak with the secretary and i wanted to extend to him an opportunity, whenever it is appropriate, i think we will have a different perspective and a different vision for california. his confirmation will be delayed a little bit because the supreme court nomination is going to be forthcoming. at the end of the day, i think we will have a very good relationship with the secretary. >> we have sent him our first

letter. commissioner torres: i saw that. president vietor: other items? >> on the 25th. >> if we can eliminate the meeting, i am all for it. president vietor: objections? >> we will wipe off the 25th meeting. on march 22nd, the items of interest are the wholesale rate in the environmental enhancement surcharge. i believe we can postpone those to the following meeting without any problems. but i wanted to make sure that we were not going to bump into somebody else's schedule. instead of having those items on march 22, we will have them on april a -- april 12.

if that is not a problem, we will move that also. president vietor: that will not get us into any issues with compliance of the water agreement? >> we can push them back until later as far as i have been told. president vietor: sounds fine. any other items on the calendar? any questions on the staff report? any other public comment on this item? next item please. >> if any commissioner has any new business item they wish to propose at this time. commissioner caen: i see we have -- >> other places are talking about a more.

-- it more. yes. commissioner caen: i was wondering where we are standing on this. >> we do not have plans to make any change in flouride in the water. we have not received concerns are complaints. there is an issue about lowering the level. >> i think what you're referring to is the announcement the other day by the u.s. epa to seize control about moving forward with the recommendation to lower the target level. we have a target level of slightly less [unintelligible] they were recommending moving it down to something like .7 parts per million. there is no regulatory process that would drive that, but we are looking at this information.

we will consider the pros and cons of doing it. it will be a very minor change. >> there is a range of .7 to 1.2. >> that is the current range. they are pushing the lower end of that hai believe. commissioner caen: thank you for the information. president vietor: what did you see the current amount is? >> the target is not exact, but slightly less than 1 part per million. president vietor: thank you. commissioner caen: you will not

believe me when i bring this up. but when we run off on our pursuit of bottled water, i recalled that was something that we could not do certain things. i thought it might be an interesting opportunity to go back and look at this with america's cup coming here. i thought it would be a good way of promoting san francisco as well as our water. >> as long as they are compostable. it doesn't affect the ethanol debate. president vietor: any other items? next item. >> the report of the general

manager. >> i wanted to mention that we have been doing operational statistics for the last couple of months. there is the general knowledge about how the business is running and we sent a copy of that to you. we will be putting it up on the main web site. i wanted to do a quick review publicly of the graphs that we are putting out on a weekly basis. it is in the communications portion of the binder. this is not intended to be easy to read. it can be better than that, maybe. the first of these items is precipitation. this year is so far the wettest year on record since 1919 for our system. if you can see the line that is only partially there, what that

means is that the water in 2011, it is now head of any year to date. if we keep going at that rate, it will be over 200% of normal. we have already received 42 inches of rain this year. that is much better thank you. we are an incredibly strong positions in terms of total storage. that includes the water bank that is already full for the year. we have very high system storage. last year was a pretty good year for us. the next one shows usage in the total surface area. the good and bad news is that

the red line is lower than any other line. it shows they are lower than 2009 and the lower -- at a lower than the average for five years. the economy and the weather being so cold has really reduced the water usage in our service area. that is great news on one hand but it is not good news in revenues. i think all but one or two weeks of the year was lower than it has been on average the last five years. the next graph is just san francisco. you won't notice as much of a seasonal swing. it is lower than almost every week of the entire year. the water delivery is down because people are conserving and the economy and the cold weather.

the next is a combination -- this is waste water. this is normally what we treat. there have been more peaks in the last four months than the last five years. we expect we will see climate change more and more. it will give you an idea of the system being something like 80 million gallons a day. next is our generation -- you'll notice there is a huge spike. that is the sunset coming on.

the amount of kleine power being generated in san francisco toward the end of the year was down because the weather was really cloudy and pretty for -- poor. the next item is hydro generation. those five lines running through the middle of the screen, as you imagine, we don't get the big airconditioning spikes in the summer time that you get in the central valley. there is a lot of seasonality in terms of what power we can generate. most of the time in march through august or september, we are generating an excess of the power that we use in the city. the red line towards the end of the graph, we have had so much

water we have been generating and we are earning in additional revenue. we are clearing out the reservoirs for spring runoff. the non-greenhouse gas electricity. it has been a better year than normal. we have been able to generate a lot of additional revenue and energy. we are trying to get the literacy of the organization on the operations that we do and we will be able to look at that also. president vietor: can i ask a question of one of those slides? the water usage spiking. i don't know if it is the third or fourth slide. >> total? president vietor: i was just

wondering, does something additional happen? i could not really quite see it. >> done every two weeks. president vietor: is that when bills are received? is there an educational peace that feeds into that spiking -- piece that feeds into that spiking? >> the bills don't go out and a lot like that -- in a lump like that. president vietor: the san francisco focused -- i wonder if there is a correlation between conservation. >> i think it is more weather related. >> they are very much whether related. we have a hot spell, we have a

cold spell. it is based on a regular whether -- irregular weather patterns. >> they are going out all the time. president vietor: it is interesting to see because conservation is so much greater right now. to be able to track because of that, i understand what you're saying. the weather spikes. once we do a push to get people to conserve, he does that affect the conservation -- does that affect the conservation as well? >> we can assess it externally.

there are lots of ways to capture the variables, but it is a challenge for us. >> the trend is that almost every two-week period has been lower. we have to figure out how much as conservation, how much as the economy and how much is the weather. >> as we get the automatic meter reading installed, we should be able to get a sense of that. a hot spell followed by a cold spell will wash out. >> with the new system, we will be able to know hour by hour usage. president vietor: and maybe test some programming, right? thank you.