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down and find out what you can do to help make their businesses viable, but a model that does not rely on alcohol to increase viability. a thing of the tenderloin is an area of the faces a lot of challenges -- i think the tenderloin is an area that faces a lot of challenges common -- challenges, and i believe the staff report gives reasons why we have also denied other liquor licenses. i think there's an over saturation, so that would be my recommendation to discontinue to engage with american grocers to find out what are ways that do not include that as being part
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of the solution to help these individuals run of viable business. i am glad there have been improvements over the years, but i believe the and improvements in were not with the intention of seeing this come back to a spirited -- back to us. you were hoping to see the store become viable use. of his time i cannot support it by their superior -- i cannot support it. >> i think this sends a message to other businesses but you can come into the tenderloin and
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make a go of it. what they are asking is no different from other markets in san francisco. i know it was a nuisance if you went into the supermarket and were not able to take of wine or beer. a recent it is desirable is it will help ensure the presence of this market in the tenderloin, which is only market with produce, fish, meat, and other items that are healthy to the neighborhood. i am never sure what goes on to your your -- what goes on to
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your your -- what goes on. maybe we will find the answer, but it does not have to do with who has a beer and wine license. i would move to the condition that the owner maintain at least the current level of produce, meat, poultry, and other items within the store during your heart second. -- within the store. >> second. >> the number of licenses is not going to change. you can go somewhere else. he can go to another location. a number of licenses are not going to go away.
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it may not go away in the tenderloin. the staff report says they do not think this is viable given the current situation. if nothing is done by the police department -- his location this is good, but with the current situation, they are having a difficult time due to security concerns. irthe long term success of this supermarket is not viable.
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i do not see the police department stepping up to make this happen. >> commissioner more? >> in contrast, it is a proactive attitude. they have invested to try to show their ace a different model. i would rather step forward and organize different forces. we had enough people speaking who go to the store. ii would walk go out there about lunch time. you really have to be proactive supporting something if you really want it.
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i am not prepared to hang it on 10% of the store being in liquor or dear -- beer. >> the motion drafted before the staff is disapproval. >> can i change my motion to be a motion with an intent to approve with the conditions but our name? -- that are named? >> you would continue at the date specified. >> there is a motion and a second to approve with conditions. [calling votes] comissioner sugaya: aye.
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resolution for the general plan. if those of you exited in the room could please keep your voices down, we would appreciate that. >> good afternoon. i am here to discuss adoption of the amendment of the central plan for the mission district. i came here two months ago on november 18, 2010, for the amendment of policy 5.37. the proposed general plan amendment would incorporate the planning division. before that date on october 14, i was here to give information on a presentation for the project, and here are some
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highlights of the koran -- of the plan that i presented. it is a strategy so there are more viable transportation choices. the mission district plan has been between march and april. this implements a framework plan and specific project. we have 30 specific projects. some of these broad sheriff have already moved forward -- these projects have already move forward.
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additionally, the planning department has determined the proposed plan is for the environment, and you have a copy of the full declaration and also the mitigation reporting program, so we are here to request the commission for the following actions in -- approved a resolution adopting ceqa findings on the amendment and others relating to the plan, approved a resolution amending a general plan and general implementation, find a project in conformity with the general plan as it is proposed to be amended, and planning code
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section 120, so our staff recommendation is to approve the resolution to adopt ceqa findings and to approve a resolution recommending support of supervisors and accepts the general upland -- the general plan. i do not know if you have any questions for me about his action or the contents of the plan. thank you. >> thank you for your work. and ms. hall last hearing but was able to follow up with -- i missed the last hearing but was able to follow-up with the information you gave me. i would like to go to public comment. seeing none, public comment is closed. >> i had a question regarding many of the streets, and i
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noticed one on dolores, and i guess the one problem i see that could develop on some of the streets that have heavier traffic is it makes it more difficult -- you lose alain, and you have to force all the traffic into one lane to make a right stern -- a right turn. i know this would be used judiciously with devaluation of the traffic and make sure it does not make it worse. >> generally, they are occupying the same space of the parking lane. right turn is in the other lane. this whole plan was reviewed by the planning department, and the effect of these changes have
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been considered having an impact on traffic or circulation, so i would say the although i see your point, denmark generally, it is for pedestrians and -- that generally it is for pedestrians. it is a three-way, which means it carries a lot of traffic. similar streets are the same typology, but all of those streets are about to benefit their residencts and users of te street. these have been adopted for
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greening, sowed is substantial -- so it can become like a small plaza. these are the benefits compared to the right turn and congestion on the street. that might be an advantage in some cases, because you can see the pedestrians. it is hard to see them at night because you are not sure of the intention. >> for some thoroughfares, we are also proposing some locations but basically pedestrians cross in two. they can wait for the next one.
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comissioner moore: particularly the configuration was part of our discussions on looking at the whole food store, and what was proposed on the west side of the street is something i have questions about. it is really more in support of what is happening in the store, whereas the pedestrian movement would create a condition across the intersection. i am not prepared to use this document have speaks about streetscape improvements and non-specific to uses. i believed that the historic character of the boulevard is
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going to be greatly impaired given this. there might be of a point when someone really explains this to me, but at the moment i am not prepared to say that because of the way it is drawn it is really in recognition of the proposed plan for the store. page 52, figure 3.3, market to 14th street improvements superior -- improvement. i asked a question last time because it was drawn up way, and people said we are not improving the streetscape, and here we are, and i see this drawing, so i am not a -- i am just asking if the is part of what we are improving today. good -- approving today.
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>> it did not approve the specifics. the exact length is yet to be determined. the only thing i would say is that with the store there, there will be a vastly increase number of pedestrians, and whether it is as long as it shows in the diagram, who knows romasanta -- who knows? it is a diagram at this point. >> it is not drawn like a diagram. i did not, to argue that. -- i do not want to argue theat. i am not saying i am opposing
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it. i and just saying i do not know enough. the one pertains to a project worth two weeks ago i asked a question. i would like to us set -- to ask that the drawings be held by for future discussion. >> i would first say the idea for the street changes u9 donnetteyou se -- the changes that you see have been on our planning. gooas well as when we did the upper market plan, it is designed for all of the intersections. this proposal was there as well,
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and we are carrying this as a result, and these proposals were here long before we knew about the use of that site, so that is the history of why we have set. richard -- that. >> i believe in the honesty of what you are saying. in light of the fact of this comes together with the approval of the project, i would go back to the details of the plan during of i would really like to know why only -- the details of the plan. i would like to know why it is only at this corner. i would like to take the discussion to the historic preservation center, because this takes a lot of attention in transforming.
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>> i will say that if you look at the upper market plan, every intersection as a result of traffic pattern, they are proposed on both sides of the street, so i know you have seen the drawing in isolation, but it is part of the larger idea of how to return the sidewalks back to the pedestrians. i do not know if you have more to add. >> when we started working on dolores street, henry had several ideas for how to treat the beginning and an end -- we had several ideas on how to treat the beginning and end. several ideas were actually
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modifying the entrance to the laura knows it -- to delores. after these proposals we did, we talked to the planners, and we realize sethat it has been set, but the median as if is cannot be modified, but the parts that is to preserve is the media and it sells. if you review the plan, you see that every drawing keeps it in attacked. -- keeps it in tact. it cannot be altered in any way.
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good >> just to yesterday's they reconsidered the votes of mission dolores neighborhood, and the specified the median was the significant point. irv that does not suggest we should not care what happened on the other hand. you should make a specific direction that we work for the final design of this and make sure it meets historic standards and is not just about land use superior -- land use. >> it is a street and wall, end
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it is a whole stain, so that is why if we could do that i would not -- it is the street wall, and that is why if we could do that i would feel comfortable. >> i wanted to speak to the overall plan, but i am completely in support of its curator -- of its period of transition is great. and -- of its. the transition was great. i am in support of it. comissioner sugaya: i think some review of the pedestrian
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and refuge goes along with concerns. >> we were looking around 14th and nation. there are a lot of new developments happening in the area. we were thinking that might be agreed site and should be considered. we were talking about that. on mission were the bus stop is. we were wondering if thought was a sites you ever considered.
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latest plan. >> it is one of the projects and is moving forward, so i can look get fat, to cure a good -- look at that, too. >> there seems to be some increase in development, so we might see more pedestrians, and any of those types of measures would probably be good. comissioner antonini: i also read the historical segment, which i thought was good, but we have these various netbooks, and i just got the one on mission district, and it shows some of these streets years ago.
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it was an interesting streets, because the streets were not as wide as they are now. there were of a lot more pedestrian-friendly street said exist. >> we were proposing to put it back. >> sometimes history repeats itself. >> i am greatly admiring who work on the streetscapes. i fully appreciate and really like what you do. turn the commission get a copy of this report natoma -- can the
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condition get a copy of this report? it lacks we definitely can get more copies. >> they are fun to look at every so often. >> i guess one thing i was also wondering is part of the area and i looked at would be 13th and mission streets. if they have plans, i would like to see those. >> they are what we have been promoting during your --
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