what's your number anticipation, where will people live and how can we get them to come over here. when they come over here, we can deal with the noise element through the entertainment commission. >> thanks, mayor lee. let me also add, we are all super excited about the america's cup, especially here in district two, but one thing, everyone knows what fleet week is like here in the marina and this is fleet week on steroids. this isn't going to be a weekend, it's going to be dozens and dozens of days, of racing, of people coming into district two. one thing in my office, we are focused on, aside from small business issues, which are very real and exciting to think about, but how do we make this an experience that we here in district two, think about marina green and fort mason, this will be the place to watch america's

cup but we'll have a huge influx of people in district two. what we're working on and want your input on is how do we make it a positive experience for the people who live here? that's going to be a very important thing. when we do win the race, we do want everyone to want it back. we want everyone to continue to be excited about it. please absolutely bring your comments. rose? >> my name is rose hillson, i'm in district two, but on the other side of town. if i may ask for my cheat card, i can't remember all the questions i wrote on it. thank you. i was wondering why don't people use or lose comp time or overtime instead of allowing carryovers in departments? i think that would save the money -- the city money when they -- so they don't have to pay out at the very end when an employee wants to retire.

and grant funding should be allowed to be carried over because it would encourage savings in particular departments. i find use it or lose strategy that's not often used in private industry, i found that interesting in city departments because they say, oh, no, we have to use up this fund big july. what do we use it on? i don't know, think of something. so then it gets spent that way. i find that a little wasteful and it doesn't encourage saving. the other thing is, why is it that the streets on the west side of the avenues, where we live, where all the ocean air blows in from the west and the garbage comes from the east side of the avenue to the west and the same amount of street cleaning is done on each side but it irritates me to see because i'm on the west side the clean east side avenues have the mechanical sweepers come by, sweeping up nothing. so i'm thinking maybe some of those streets don't need every other week and how much would

that save? >> we'll move on to gabbie if that's all right with you. here we go. >> good evening,ern, i'm martin gram, employee relations director for the city and county of san francisco. the issue of overtime/comp time is that under the federal labor standards act, employees who are not exempt because they're higher up in the organization, we have to cash them out. so if they've worked for -- if we allow them, or suffer them to work overtime, then they have a right to the cash if they want it or they can agree to earn comp time but even at the end of the career, when they separate, whether they retire or leave the city for other reasons, we have to cash them out. the higher earners are most

often exempt from that law. and they are subject to use it or lose it. i think we're in compliance as best we can with the state of the law. >> do you want to talk about the other one? >> on the use it or lose it question about grants, this is kind of a classic budgeting issue. i'd be interested to know which grants in particular you're interested in and maybe you can catch me offline afterwards but we do in most cases where it's grant funds, we'll try to allow departments to capture that money and carry it forward rather than close it out on them. now when it's in the general fund, we will go, you don't lose it, you will lose it. but when grants are involved, in particular, we do usually try to

allow departments to maximize how to use those funds. if there's a particular case in mind i'd like to talk to you offline and hear about it, maybe we can learn something about the nuances in that case. >> ok, so some of you know my history. i used to be the director of the department of public works, so i know a little bit about garbage. there's another ed in this world cup, ed riskin, director of public works, he's not here, but i'll try to cover it. we welcome neighbors who see things on the streets that dent make sense. we have been adjusting the schedules for street sweepers and in fact a lot of areas that are purely residential are no longer be swept every week, it's every two or three weeks and the schedules are varying and we're not getting complaints that they're any less clean.

but as you indicated, trash does move in strange ways. we'd be very welcome for you to call ed directly to have his staff analyze the streets that you see that maybe we're not doing the right thing. we actually have, this was the open data, a question we were given by former mayor gavin newsom, we have data for our ski jumes and we'll allow you to take a look at that and let you know the schedules where the street sweepers are coming. you can, for your own neighborhood, give us feedback as to whether or not that's appropriate. if you've got a corridor that's changing, a commercial corridor, you'll find you probably need more regular sweeping out there because you atrack -- attract a lot more people and with the habits that come with that, there'll be a lot more trash. on the west side of the city and along the waterways, particularly on the west side of the city, what i found is you

may have less trash but you have more sand. that sand blows a lot farther in and you've got to clean that sand off because it starts co-roading the streets. we have to have the sweepers in on a regular basis for that reason. that's what we do not only along the great highway but the avenues on the west side of the city. but we're glad to make adjustments so the most efficient system -- and ed has been great at this, he said i'm going to reduce it but you shouldn't complain because if we did it wrong, we'll be back out to correct it. >> rose if you have specific comments about that, give us a call in my office and we'll deal with it. ok? >> i'm gabbie, a 73-year resident of jordan park. this is another street issue. the streets all over the city are in bad shape.

you mentioned potholes and that's what this is about. i've observed a crew of three or four men coming to a pothole and they put a blob of asphalt on it and leave it as a blob and go away and expect cars to flatten it out and what happens is it gets chipped away and we have a hole again. isn't that wasteful? i mean, to have that big a crew come and then over and over and over again the same pothole has to be filled. so isn't there a less wasteful, more economic way of filling potholes in an adequate manner that will last? and another question, this is very specific, i live on commonwealth and gary is my cross street. it's not a through street.

and cars going west block the intersection. would it cost a lot of money to put a sign on the street saying, do not block the intersection? can we afford to do that? thank you. >> i guess we should have had that address on here but please absolutely -- give my office a call or call 311 and we'll get you in touch with ed. >> you're looking at that four-person crew on the pothole crew, they're filling hundreds of those potholes because as you can imagine, particularly with the large rains and the amount of rain we had, there's a lot more of that water that seeped in. so they're filling them as much as possible but asphalt, asphalt streets and covering those potholes, that is temporary. most of the streets when we start grading them, we are not making the grade. we have a minimum standard and

we're not meeting that because we're not redoing the whole surface. that's what will last longer. not just pothole filling, it's actually redoing the whole asphalt layer on top. and this is where we have not had the resources at d.p.w. to do that. that's tens of millions of dollars to do so throughout all the major roadways. we haven't done it because the history has been we haven't put a priority on the general fund and now the general fund is so limited. because the general fund is limited, what we have to do is raise the revenues elsewhere and the state is cutting back on all the road surfacing money, the federal government is cutting all their transportation moneys, so guess what, we're on our own on this. so you're going to continue seeing temporary fixes as good as these guys are, and they're pretty good at it, they're only going to be temporary and potholes do come back in the

same place because that is a temporary fix. when the tires hit those, they'll keep grouting it out and that's the nature of the pothole business. what we have to do is get to resurfacing those streets more often so that they can last longer because if you don't do that resurfacing and if those potholes get deep enough to hit the concrete base, we're talking no longer about tens of millions, we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. that's where we're trying to catch up. that's our challenge in front of us is we've got to try to keep up with a minimum standards we're trying to do and we're losing that battle because of funds. i hate to say it, we have not been able to do it for reasons that are funding wise. your second question, it all depends on how many languages you want that sign in. we can definitely have that sign put up. let's get specifics on that and there's no reason why we should allow a street to be blocked,

for sure. so we can easily put a sign up. that's the work of a district supervisor, get me that stop sign, get me that directional sign, get me that light there for pedestrian safety or car safety and with mark's persistence, he'll get that done, he'll notify our m.t.a. and we'll get that sign done. >> thanks a lot, mayor lee. richard. also next, pam squares, corinne king brown and juanita. >> i'm a guest here because i work with captain mannings of the community advisory board for northern station and northern actually has five superviseors that cover it. but mine is about contracting, but contracting in such a way where, mayor lee you said and the budget analyst said, more

proactive. part of that is to have contracts, especially with the outreach in the social services that are supposed to be providing means to break the crime cycle. and part of it is being someone who has worked with community policing for years is you don't see a unified vision amongst the city of what they're trying to achieve. and in doing that outreach is always the thing where i find most of the agencies expect people to come to them and as we all know the streets are full of, and your neighborhood is actually experiencing more of this. how can we get outreach to be in the contracts in such a way where they're saying what you're measuring it by, how they're going to implement it, but also what i find in contracting is there's no escape clause. if it's not working, you're locked into it for two or three years. so to get creative with the

contracting, that comes into what you were saying, mayor lee work the politics. this could be something to look at. as a pozzive example, mo magic. convenors were throughout all the city but in many cases the convenors who were the people who brought social agencies together to work on a uniformed idea, uniform mission became too political and they said it wasn't working the way it should. mo magic is one of those where i think it really is addressing the social issues because what they're doing is going through the education of our children, also the entrepreneurial skills, also working with quality of life and that's one thing with doing the contracts, we need to look that way. but also i have to put to people that many of the successes in my neighborhood, i live on the other side, have been also

combining sweat equity with city investment. and i think if neighborhoods, which are the engine of our city and i work with phil on a regular basis in a park and i worked with you, but it's that type of spirit we need to look at. it's in the only funding. we've talked about litter. it's interesting that we're willing to, in a tight budget, say that's something we want to fund. my suggestion would be to use the social agencies, especially the youth agencies, teaching them the importance of preventing litter and working to move that money from the litter budget into investing to the parks, to get the kids out into the parks and clean the parks, but really use our supportive services that are supposed to be helping break a cycle, break

that cycle. and services' ultimate mission is to work themselves out of a job, not to keep creating a job. that's what to ask in contracting, if you have a mission, not just a year, five years, 10 years, but a key thing i noticed in the example, departments aren't -- haven't been measuring what volunteers have been investing. so we as a city do not understand how much by investing in a certain thing that does 10% each year in 10 years. that's what i want to hear. >> i wish we could have our department of children and faply

here because they would be speaking to the contracts like mo magic and others. there's a lot of people involved in this whole issue about re-entry for people who have committed crimes, pretrial diversion, and then preventive programs. you're absolutely right. we've been working on contracts that have standards of performance in them. we used to give out a lot of grants in the city and kind of guess as to whether or not they really were performing. they had numbers but we couldn't verify whether lives were changing or not. we're getting better and better at it with other consultants who tell us, what are those outcomes we need to measure in all these nonprofit contracts we issue? and we need to have them more efficiently done. there's a lot of them that are overlapping, we were looking at that. there's a lot of them that could

build efficiencies around their back office functions, we've been looking at that from the budgetary angle so each one doesn't have their own accountant separate from their other. they could be doing all that easily anconsen trait on the actual service. each of these programs have been improving when we place responsibility of a certain outcome we expect to have an they've been much more consistent when we've overlaid the department of children, youth, and family with marie sue, who is heading that, reports directly to me, she's got matrixes and people who can evaluate those programs and make them much more outcome-oriented. we still struggle with agencies doing their own thing. for example, the pretrial diversion program, where youth were getting into criminal trouble, they have an out through the courts. but guess what, for years their out was to tell them -- to tell the judge, i'd like to work in a

nonprofit, and they sit in an office all day long. d.p.w. and rec and park got rid of that kind of system and demanded that those kids doing graffiti, those kids doing trash violations, small petty theft stuff, they ought to be working in the streets with d.p.w. and get their hands dirty, they have to learn the challenges of life with people who are working with their hands so they can see what trash does, what gra tee fee -- graffiti does. we demand that they not work in some office. where they can kind of sit back and read a book all day long or maybe file some things. they've got to be out there with the people correcting the problems. the d.p.w. people painting the graffiti off the walls and poles, people picking up trash in the parks that were left by a lot of these big parties that were irresponsible. so we're try to make a connection with the places where people are going to rehab

themselves with life's reality and in those programs, kids learn quick not to form graffiti because when you paint them off, that's just as dirty and they see how it afpblgt, they are learning how graffiti affects the quality of life in communities like this. so we're trying to make those connections, there's a lot of differences of opinion about how you rehab somebody and how you educate that person, different levels of education, different cultures, we're all trying to, i went to the first, in fact, i was the first mayor to ever attend a re-entry counsel discussion with people from the jails, police department, the d.a., the public defender, all of them in one room, trying to figure out better programs to make sure that recidivism, people who had committed crimes, they have a chance to change their lives. a lot of them were telling us about the blockages in the system. we're getting better at trying

to get programs that change people's lives so they don't become the revolving door we've had for many, many years where they get off easy and come back and do the same thing. that's unfortunately affecting our whole drug rehab programs. that's why we have laws like sit and lie, that's why we have a community justice court, we're not trying to punish people but get them to make better decisions for their lives and we all will get better at that. that's why i'm a big supporter of the sit lie and the community justice court. we're not putting people in prison, but trying to get them to make good decisions about themselves and get to a point to change their lives with adequate services in everything from job training to getting off drugs. >> now everyone sies why we love mayor lee so much. pam. >> good evening. my name is pam spires and we

have had a family owned business in district three for 75 years. and my question pertains to budget concerns. i'd like to know why the city of san francisco facilitated the purchase of an over market value property, the -- for proposed transitional age housing. they have financed this purchase of this facility, which is in a state of complete disrepair, had a americans disability act filed against it and it doesn't stop there. basically, they, at 16 rooms, market rate value on those 16 rooms is about $150,000. and to start with the project

has been financed, like i said, interest free by the city of san francisco and i think it's just a gross mismanagement of money. the total cost of the project for the 16 rooms, because most of they will don't have bathrooms, is going to be $9 million. for the amount of kids that are coming, going to be housed at this facility, we could buy them each a house. in the area. i'm not kidding. so what i'd like to know is, the other thing that i find is that there are no conditions on these young adults that have drug and alcohol problems, that come, they say from foster homes but

now the law has changed, that is completely incorrect. the foster kids that they said originally were going to be housed in that facility are going to be able to stay in their homes with their foster families and get paid. this is incredible misuse of taxpayer funds. and it is an incredible impact to this district. thank you. >> do you want me to take that one? look, i will just say this, obviously it is a big deal in district 2. we have another transitional youth house in the booker t. washington center over by the muniart close to the old

mervyn's builting, sears building. all i will say, we are working very hard with the mayor's office of housing to do outreach to the community now to see if that's even a project the community will support. i will tell you that the community ultimately will have my support in that. what i would ask is that everyone has open eyes and open ears about it. i do think we need to do this. we need to provide these housing projects. however -- and we need to do them throughout san francisco. however, i'm open to the fact that king edward ii may not be the right oneful. as our told -- as i told our mayor's office of housing who i am working closely with and respect a great deal, it has gone so far down the road where the community may be past the point of no return in terms of support.

i want to let that process play itself out. i know it's been a big deal. it's not necessarily a budget issue right now. i'm happy to take it offline. >> [inaudible] >> i completely agree that's one of the biggest problems with the king edward ii itself. we will continue to work on that, you have my commitment as your district supervisor to be on top of that issue. i understand it's one of the primary ones in the district. >> [inaudible] we have a lot of 20 manufacture somethings there

and it's a good thing and to to the bring that crime in here is very inappropriate. it is a budgetary issue. we have asked about this, we have had meetings and every one of us has said no. our former supervisor filed a complaint and gave a list of reasons why it's not an appropriate thing to bring those kids into this community, and as a 30-year resident of this area, i have smoke coming out of my ears. >> ok. you guys. >> [inaudible] >> ok, thanks very much.

hold on. i'm going to cut this off on king edward ii here. i understand there are a ton of concerns. let me tell you ultimately in order for this project to go through, it has to go through the board of supervisors. it has to go through, myself included and the rest of my colleagues at the board. for that to happen, we have to be convinced it's going to be the right program. i commit to you we'll have open forums to talk about the issues surrounding king edward ii, budgetary, police and others. please be in contact with my office if you are interested in being part of that. and you have my commitment we'll do that. ok? >> my name is corinna king brown, i'm a new resident of san francisco, i'm a little bit of a political junkie, hence me

coming to this meeting a week after moving here. i'm ready. my question really is about priorities. i think this is something that is being asked across the country right now but supervisor, what do you think are the top three priorities for this budget balancing process? how do those compare to your other, your colleagues, the other supervisors, and also the departments represented here? >> i will just say for me, i think reform is job one. we're working very hard at that. we have department of human resources here. you have a commitment and why we've asked the people here on stage tonight to come tonight, we have a commitment on behalf of us to work very hard at that. i think that is job