light and that according to the staff report that the present design is not have what they feel to be a significant light impact. so i don't know eliminating the pitch might architecturally change the appearance of it and would mean they would end up with a different structure and more cost and redesign. and i don't really see that that is necessary. olague r commissioner moore. commissioner moore: could we see the model one more time please? is that a model you did or prepared -- is this an accurate -- is this an accurate depiction?

>> i would like to ask the architect have you given any thought from the stair side of the other person's building and this angle doesn't look so awkward. is there a way of really closing that all the way to the top and creating an architectural edge by which the stair opening becomes smaller on their side? when you look through this here, obviously this is an awkward angle here. >> you mean actually add a --

>> like where the two buildings meet. >> i understood that. yes. it is an awkward connection. we were wanting to keep it as -- we weren't trying to grow the opening any larger or close off the opening further than was necessary. so yes. so we hadn't considered that because we knew they were objecting to the 6 square feet and we didn't want to go any further there. commissioner moore: and i personally do not have any objections to that roof being a pitched roof because it is a small room that's building already creates a lot of mazive relative from the backside of the building but i would like to see is some kind of better transition of this pitched roof meetses this opening. you see what i say? it is very awkward.

you have this opening sticking up here and i assume there is a kind of closing that this will meet the pitched roof. >> may i make a comment? we could make a parapit but as i hear from her, she is objecting to all that. >> that would make it worse. >> and that big of an issue and building these that are imposing and people are thinking this is a modest addition. and i believe that this will

give more light is a fair thing to do. i myself live in a building that does similar things and wasn't really disign sod -- wasn't designed but to soften the transition more. >> and with the awkward situation and the project architect, and i do not think this rises to the level of significan significance. and however, looking at this model, this will be at an angle and thought about having a pitch down here at 45 degrees or something. >> there is some issue with waterproofing and we don't want

the water to flow into the -- >> it will come the other way. >> and the existing two-story addition is awkward. it actually you can see from the photo that it ends at the lightwell and we weren't trying to direct that condition or make it anymore impactful. >> it is really difficult to detail. this is almost impossible. >> okay. i would probably make a motion to not take d.r. and approve with project sponsor continuing to try to work with the d.r. requester if there are any solutions that -- i don't feel that you have to, but it certainly would always be a good idea. >> second. olague r and i have been -- president olague: i have been remotely acquainted with ms. nadal and haven't seen her in a number of years and i think that the issue is well respected in the latino community and that sort of thing and i am not

familiar with the history with the previous property at all, but i know she is the owner of this one. and to the extent that you could continue to work on softening some of the transitions, i think that would be good thing. i think she is a very reasonable person and like i said, it's been many years since i have dealt with her. i think to the extent that you can continue to engage in some reasonable conversation so that there is some kind of reasonable relationship moving forward, i think it can be achieved. you can continue to work with the project sponsor or with the d.r. requester to get some of these things resolved, then it would certainly be something like commissioner antonini mentioned we would encan you remembering here. -- that we would encourage

here. and this is an awkward space and there is part of me that wishes it would be brought back a little but i am not sure how you do that. i am certain there is a way to continue conviction with the d.r. requester. secretary avery: the motion is to not take d.r. and continue with the encouragement that the project sponsor should continue dialogue on softening some of the issues that have been raised. on that motion, commissioner antonini. >> aye. >> commissioner borden. >> aye. >> commissioner fong? >> i am just returning and i have no idea what the motion is. >> we will mark you absent on that one. >> commissioner moore.

>> aye. >> commissioner sugaya. >> aye. >> commissioner olague. >> aye. secretary avery: thank you. that planned unanimously. planning commission is in recess until 5:00 p.m.