its scope and level of commitment. i am a resident of san francisco and have two small children. to me, this felt like a more manageable project, and i feel like i know more. i have a better feel for san francisco policies than california's statewide policies. >> just to get a sense of your analysis, have you a good draft one of the state maps? any thoughts on how they have achieved communities of interest, legal standards? >> general observation about the process -- >> maybe that. instead of looking at the results, what do you think of their process so far? >> i think it has been reasonable. they have tried to follow the guidelines that have been established for them. i think the way the process is set up, which was to denied any access to political information and to relegate to happenstance, you might say, the objectives

of partisan fairness and competitiveness. that is not how i would have designed the process, but that is the process that they were given. and i think they have tried to follow the criteria set out for the. from what i can see, they have done a serviceable job of that. there are some questions, i think, about the division of latino communities. there are also some things to try to do to create new opportunities for asian americans that have sport -- that historically have been relatively and incorporated in the california political process. i respect the work that they have done. supervisor kim: any other questions? just a quick question. how long have you lived in san francisco? >> since 2005. supervisor kim: since 2005. ok. no other questions. >> thank you. supervisor kim: thank you. next, we have eroc/after eric,

we have gia daniller-katz. >> i am eric mcdonnell, native from san francisco, born and raised in the western addition. i spent some citi lakeside and ingleside. i spent my entire professional life working in community, working on behalf of low-income families, working on behalf of those marginalized and often those outside our legislative and political process. my interest in bridge is a fitting in this process is two- fold. one, it is a critical process that will determine how folks have a voice and will determine how folks can experience the distribution allocation of resources, and it is critical to communities across our city. what is important to me is that this process resulted in a fair and equitable and transparent process where, again, everyone has a voice, and then there is opportunity for the distribution of resources. the opportunity, i believe, is

to continue to address what continues to be challenges in our city with regard to access to resources. when i grew up in the western addition, i experienced firsthand the challenges of limited resources, limited access to resources, and so then experiencing the what in not understanding the why, an ally of the understand the why. i respectfully ask for your support. supervisor kim: thank you. any questions? supervisor elsbernd. supervisor elsbernd: i notice you're on the board of leadership san francisco. what brought you to that? what was your interest? >> sure, so i was -- i guess i had been at united way -- i currently served as chief operating officer at united way and the bay area. we engage in the communities across seven counties. diane easton approached me to be a part of their class in 2002.

following that class, she asked if i would join the board. my interest was two-fold. one, my commitment to san francisco and the committee. two, the opportunity that has afforded folks to go through lsf, which is about leadership development and growing committee trusties, folks who not only live and work in this city but also take ownership and pride and ensuring that we have a great place to live, work, and drive. i have been on the board since 2003. supervisor kim: supervisor farrell capito supervisor farrell: -- supervisor farrell. supervisor farrell: have to apply for any of the commission's report? >> i have not. supervisor farrell: any particular reason in this besides interest in san francisco? >> that is correct. 10 years ago, it was not a big deal to me at the time. supervisor elsbernd: one question -- sorry, you get to be

the first person to be asked this. some others may be asked this. you have but a very good resume. it sells well in the public would like it. are you going to run for office in the next 10 years? [laughter] and the me be very blunt, i do not want to see people on this committee who are going to draw lines for their own benefit. >> that is a very fair and appropriate question. i have not and do not have any political aspirations, no. that is not my intent at all, certainly not why i would want to get into this kind of process. supervisor kim: thank you. you do have a very impressive resume. as my colleague pointed out. i just want to see about your ability to commit to the task force. as you know, it will be an incredible amount of time. do you believe you'll be able to balance this with the work you're doing? >> sure. one of the other reasons this is an important process to me both personally and professionally, in my role at united way, part

of my role is to represent us in the committee in ensuring that we're speaking to the needs that we know are important across the community. i am here today trying to represent our organization in this process. i have colleagues that are doing likewise in other communities. this is poor to our work. so, yes, i will have time, because frankly, it is part of our role. >supervisor kim: thank you. you also talked about making sure this task force is transparent. what would you do to ensure that the public is engaged with the task force and had to ensure that the process continues to be transparent? >> no specific idea other than ensuring that i come individually, and as a member of the task force, if that should take place, that we would ensure that there is a process that will regularly pushing out update on where we are with regard to process and deliberations and key questions. and then in fighting an encouraging committee

participation on how we should be responding to these kinds of challenges. i do not think it should be just a task force that should inform. it should be the community's thoughts that should inform the altar and results of the task force. supervisor kim: thank you. seeing no other questions, i am willing to call our next applicant. >> i asked him a question that i did not ask brigette leblanc. supervisor kim: both brigette leblanc and christopher elmendorf -- >> no, no. it is not a question for chris. i want you to share with me your thoughts on what attracted you to leadership san francisco, why did you participate? >> first and foremost, because i am a resident of san francisco, and i feel that i am is the color in the city that i was born and raised in. i was recommended to apply for leadership san francisco. i did my homework, and i thought that it was a great opportunity

to really understand how the city works. and it was a great opportunity to me. we had like 70 people in our class from all different walks of life, and it was just a wonderful experience. i actually became more engaged in my community, and i really knew who to call and how to get help in different areas that we actually covered. that is it. supervisor kim: thank you. gia daniller-katz. next, we have james tracy. after james, we have jason porth. >> good morning, supervisors. my name is james tracy. usually when we come in front of each other like this, it is usually run partisan politics, different issues that we're debating of the day. i believe that the number one

thing that any commissioner can do is to put aside these things and just basically obey the law. there is the city charter. federal civil rights law. there is a host of other laws that we have to obey. and we have to balance the needs of a very changing the city that is very, very complex geographically. we do not have as many ethnic enclaves that are unbroken as we did even 10 years ago and 10 years before that. so there will be a lot of challenges before us, basically, you have to be able to put aside your own ideological beliefs and find out exactly what will be the conditions that can give every single san franciscan, no matter where they live, an equal chance at voicing their will. i participated heavily in the

census effort of getting out the word. we assembled a team of people that came from the most conservative -- evangelical churches in the tenderloin and down into former sex workers. that is what i would like to represent here. it is fitting that the current system has produced supervisor campos and supervisor elsbernd, people in very different out what's that are good representatives of their districts, and that is something that i wanted to say. i will answer any questions. supervisor kim: thank you. supervisor elsbernd: i have observed you, watched you, listened to you for many years, and you are very passionate on a number of issues. and very well-informed on those issues. that said, a lot of those issues, at least in my memory, are largely kind of central city issues. district 6, district 8, district 9. tell me about your knowledge of the west side of the city?

if you are on this committee, you'll have to talk about not just legal requirements but communities of interest in neighborhoods on the west side. >> one thing that the west side shares in common with the east side that many people do not understand fully is the fact that they have large immigrant populations. irish, russian, and obviously a growing asian population. so i believe that is a good deal of commonality between the west side and the east side, more so than we read in the chronicle or the bay guardian. it is also the home of old school san francisco. right? the families and communities that have held on despite these changes and not moved out of san francisco, even when some of the economic conditions and other opportunities that they had had them exit to someplace like hayward. i think it is a crucial area.

supervisor kim: could you tell us also where you have lived in san francisco and how long you have been a resident here. >> i have officially been a resident of san francisco since 1992, from the time of about late 1988 to 1992, i went back and forth between oakland, where i was born, and san francisco, or i was the caretaker for my uncle who was living in a senior building and living part-time with my aunt. but i official amid this my home in august of 1992. i have lived in the mission district and the marina and south of market very briefly. >supervisor kim: ok, to what you talked about how it is important to set aside your politics and ensure conditions to give everyone an equitable voice, whether you live on the west side the east side. can you talk a little bit about

how you would kind of take this values on in the process of redistricting? >> i am certain that through this process, anybody is going to see an opportunity basically to at the precinct or subtract the precinct. it would at favorable outcomes for the campaigns that they are working on -- i think that is wrong. it is basically, you have to look at the law. you have to balance and there will be compromises that have to be made. there will be adjustments that have to be made. and you have to balance that out to make sure that if, say, the mission is taking a few precincts, the district 8 is also getting consideration in that way. supervisor kim: ok, thank you so much. supervisor farrell: i have a question for you. you're in 94123 and district

two. abby ever applied to many other boards or commissions -- have you ever apply to any other boards or commissions in city hall? if not, why are you here? >> about six years ago, seven years ago, i served on the committee land trust task force with supervisor gonzales. i do not believe i have ever apply for anything else. so this was just -- i saw this as a real opportunity to make sure that there is the type of fairness and civic engagement, debate, and a healthier san francisco for the next 10 years. and, no, i am not running for anything, even dogcatcher for the next 10 years and probably beyond. i will leave that to you guys. supervisor kim: thank you. supervisor elsbernd: i know you're not running. are you volunteering are working on any mayoral campaigns? >> he is coming also working on it john avalos' campaign,

completely unpaid. supervisor kim: thank you. i already called up jason porth, but it is my understanding that gia daniller-katz is also year. i will call you up after jason porth. good morning. >> good morning. jerrick, supervisors, my name is jason porth, and thank you for the opportunity to address the committee. i worked as seven years as a civil rights attorney and provided counsel in eviction meetings for the homeless advocacy project. a significant part of my legal training was as an advocate for domestic violence survivors and on cases dealing with civil liberties, death penalty, and civil rights in education. i now resentence is this the university. for serving as the university's community relations officer and currently is due to the chief of staff to the president. for three years, i served as president of the jewish democratic club, is city-wide club with members in each and every supervisor districts.

like two of my co-applicants, i am an alumnus of leadership san francisco. in all these roles, i have served as a negotiator untypically as consistent -- consensus-builder, working to find agreement among groups with divergent and passion that prospective screen no -- perspectives. i have translated the plans for change to neighborhood constituencies. i know the value of and firmly believe in a cohesive neighborhoods, represented by an elected leader of the board of supervisors. the task force must proceed with great care and a thorough understanding of the impact of drawing lines. the last redistricting task force united japan town into one district of this task force bears a responsibility to fulfil similar objectives and enter the city's residents will be represented by an individual aware of their concerns and committed. the task force will balance many factors. police of neighborhoods and

districts, geography of our city, numerous communities of interest, and the legal protections to ensure that equal power of each vote is cast. it is a reasonable, fair-minded, and skill listener. i seek to help plan and include a process that will gather many perspectives through public input and analyze the information provided by the census. thank you for considering me. supervisor kim: thank you. kathleen coll let -- supervisor elsbernd: let me start with a few questions. my knowledge of your work is san francisco state, and you're also an advocate before the university playground, the neighborhood out there. west side issues, you know those well. what is your knowledge of the east side? >> southwest state is relieve the city's university. we have run 23 headstart programs around the city and -- in every single supervisor real district. we're educating the city's work

force and making sure that the university is in the position to provide people to fill the jobs that the city needs to move forward. my knowledge of the city has grown far beyond just district 7. as president of a club interested in issues across district lines, i have come to know the city quite well as well. supervisor elsbernd: as i said, i know your work through san francisco state and throughout wallenberg. it was an education looking at your resume and learning your work as a civil rights attorney. that is new to me. >> after retreating from northeastern university law school in boston, where focused on domestic violence advocacy issues and civil rights in education issues, i went to work for small law firm in oakland. after internships at the american civil liberties union and other civil rights organizations. supervisor elsbernd: you throw

out the civil rights division in the department of justice. they're typically the entity that sometimes challenges district lines. did you have any exposure to work like that? >> this was specifically in the department of education. so we dealt more with issues involving k-12 and higher education. after coming to san francisco in 1999, i started working in a small civil rights firm in oakland, and that transferred to a seckel civil rights from the representing plaintiffs in employment discrimination cases, wages, and accommodation that is. a family of five for housing is not granted the housing, either because of the size of their family or because they are a person of color, same-sex couple, things along those lines, as an example. ultimately, i decided to leave the practice of law to go to sf state, because i recognize that yes or more of a consensus- builder and an advocate in that regard than i was comfortable in

working in a very different perspective, were often the only outcome we were able to achieve was a check to our client. supervisor kim: thank you. supervisor farrell: thank you. good to see you, jason. i know your work mostly through wallenberg. as you think about redistricting and we talk about communities of interest, how do you view religious institutions and faith in terms of redistricting and what role that might play? >> thank you for that question. first, if you look at the u.s. history of social movements and also across the world, people are often guided by their values and their principles, which often are faith-based. that is why i have been so involved with wallenberg over the years. i believe firmly in the things i have talked about, and making sure everyone has an equal vote. i worked on these issues.

the role that states play in one's life is often to inspire one to make positive social change. that is how i find value in my faith as well and how i found value through wellenberg, too. people can unite around commonalities that they share. that is why it is important to protect communities of interest, so they can elect a leader that will understand their perspectives and ultimately represent them well at city hall. supervisor farrell: have your reply to other commissions here in city hall? if not, why this one? >> this is the first one. this one, really, i find it extremely compelling. i recognize how important it is. my term as president ends a week from today, so i will have a lot more time than i did before hand. supervisor kim: thank you. supervisor elsbernd: i have a question that maybe supervisor kim was going to ask.

i know you have young children. are you going to have time to do this? >> my family is extremely supportive of my involvement in the community, and i certainly will. supervisor kim: thank you. seeing that you have been active with a political club, what are some of the major issues that the club has worked on or that has been a priority for the club over the past few years? >> great question. looking forward to what we're doing next week when i go out of office, we will be hearing about pension reform. it is an event i am very excited about. there are issues that unite us as a jewish community that the club has taken on. most recently, we have been working on the proposal to ban circuses in -- circumcision in san francisco. that has united our club quite seriously. when i became president of the club, we work on other issues as well, going back as far as holding quorums on care not cash. we would meet with anyone supporting any office.

our tax process that the club is involved in it really brings people in on issues far beyond religious or fate is used as well. supervisor kim: could you name some other issues in the past that the club has worked on? >> yes, project homeless connect, on homelessness issues. we were very interested in being involved in that. we have done voter registration and education. we have had a forum where recently as well things. we have a broad approach to see what happens in san francisco. supervisor kim: you also advocate on issues. do take positions? or there any major initiatives that were important to the club, besides the besidesban, -- besides the circumcision ban? >> none come to mind immediately. but once the club takes the position on able specific

perspective, it does advocate for that position. correct. supervisor kim: i want an understanding of your understanding of the city as a whole. were you have lived and how long. >> moved here in 1999. my wife and grew up here in the late roy said area. that is what brought us back to san francisco. we looked originally in the richmond district. now live in lakeside. supervisor kim: what are some important principles or values that you would consider their your decision making process on the redistricting committee? >> the primary one is ensuring that communities of interest do not lose any ability to elect a person to the board of supervisors. i -- by community of interest, it can be ethnic communities. it can be populations that are drawn together and lived near one another. it can be merchants' associations and other want to interact with city hall.

protecting those communities, recognizing the neighborhoods that make up san francisco and finding value in the strength of the city in the neighborhoods and how they are comprised is a key component of how i would approach the process. i think that would really be informed by a very broad approach to getting as many people involved in the process as possible. a different question that raised some thoughts with me was how do we make sure that we're hearing from as many people as possible? i know that there are about two or three meetings in every supervisor district. they often met in the evenings and the weekend. that is a fabulous approach. meeting in the middle of the day will not serve anybody will. they would often received things via fax. of course, receiving input through as many social media as possible, through as many ways as you could drop in those communities of interest to hear where people need to be heard.

supervisor kim: thank you. are there any other questions or comments? cnn, thank you very much. we will go back to gia daniller- katz. after gia, jenny lam. >> good morning. thank you for including me. my name is gia daniller-katz, and i am here today because i would love the opportunity to serve as a member of the redistricting task force and to serve the city in committee in this way. my interest in the special assignment stems from my passion for san francisco, a deep commitment to community involvement, as well as community engagement. i have interests in all things political. i have been actively involved in civic affairs in san francisco and with various community and political organizations for the past 15 +

years. i worked in areas around urban planning, environmental issues, women's issues, and have been very involved in the jewish community. i am a past president, like my good friend and colleague, adjacent p -- jason porth, in the club. i am running a small business providing government and community relations consulting services. what i wanted to highlight for you is the fact that i have considerable experience in the community outreach fund and also a very strong group process person. having either chaired or staffed numerous volunteer-led efforts and committees over the years. i also wanted to communicate the fact that i would not be coming to this effort with any preconceived notions or specific agendas regarding the redistricting process.

to work with the full range of stakeholders is my goal, and to work with communities in constituencies to make the process as effective and empowering for the city as a whole as possible. i know time is short, and i want to thank you for your consideration and say that i very much look forward to opportunities to work with all of you. supervisor kim: thank you. supervisor elsbernd: let me be real blunt and direct. you are a registered lobbyist. how is it going to look for the board to appoint a registered lobbyist to this committee? i am sure it is sending you have thought about. >> you know, it is interesting, because i recently registered. a lot of the work i have done in the past with the government did not fall under the rules. and then i felt, recently, that

that was something that was important to do. you know, is sending that i have thought about, and i guess i have sort of the economy in my head. because i consider myself a community leader and someone who has really been involved in the grass roots. and i am confident that my work would not influence or the influence in terms of perception. i guess i would say that i would hope that people would see folks not sort of as one part of who they are, one label, but really take into account their record and their years of involvement and commitment, and judge them on their actions and how they conduct themselves. integrity and transparency are extremely important to me. supervisor kim: to what. i have a follow-up. i notice that your work is on government relations, public government relations, public affairs