under this permit. i issued a correction notice to clarify that. there are no? approved on the -- there are no decks approve. it is on there for application purposes. it would not be permitted to build a deck or install under this permit and i issued a correction notice and i gave that to both sides. i thought that might be the sensible thing to do even though the project has not started. if they did attempt to build a deck, there would stop. the events for the bathrooms,

that would be under code. they're not any issues with the department. >> are there other permits that are insured or in the process of review? >> there is another building permit on site. for the? on the elevators and that is going through the process at the minute. we can get that clarified. >> that is ok. >> three levels of? . -- of decks. it has not been sent yet for notification. >> there is an issue of serial permitting filed?

>> there will be along the process on the decks. the architect for some reason or another chose to split up. i would not call that serial permitting. it is interior work on that permit that is under review tonight. >> the appellate requested clarification on when some document stamped approved -- can you help us with that? i do not know what document she is referring to. >> thougon the front pages of te plan, the showed, there was some drawings for that meeting and that showed the elevator and the deck. these are the existing and proposed, even though it is on

there, we would not recognize that as an approval. it does not have any structural details. because it has an approved stamp on their, i certainly -- if i were called to that job and someone said it is on this, i would not recognize that. >> what did they stamp indicate? what is the point of the stamp? >> that is a good question. there is not enough to build it. when you go further into the plan -- >> commissioner peterson: what is on the plan? >> on the plan -- if you want to get into legal things, that is part of the legal question. you would be allowed to do that.

>> vice president garcia: would- be -- the building would be approved by the processes on the sheet. >> that is a good question. >> commissioner peterson: it is a source of confusion. >> it might have been better if there was a circular that said this is -- someone should have said that. there was definitely no way they could build a deck or put an elevator because there is no details. we would -- if they tried that, it would be stopped. even though it said approve, it is not properly approved. >> commissioner peterson: thank you. questions for the zoning administrator?

commissioners? public comment on this item? >> i am merv silverberg. there are some concerns i have here in front of me. i went out to that meeting at the architect's office, where it used to be lowell high school and that was the closest i got to seeing anything. i was promised though i would see some plans after that. i have a problem, i have never gotten a piece of paper since then or the notice which by the

way i will leave that for you. i have three other ones here. which involved obviously the blocks around there, 3934 36th clay street, 3732 sacramento st., these are current notices. i do not know why could not get the one that is right next door to me. i have the property south of this property. i know the property extremely well. it is a four story building built after the earthquake and fire. my concern is what will happen if there is such a thing as what has been going on and i am not notified again about what is happening. the future with the building, i am concerned that what could happen to my building and that is an important aspect of this.

the process is what i am questioning more than anything else. if i am notified about these others, why did i not get plans on this? i would like to have somebody tell me is that a brick foundation, is it a concrete foundation? these things could affect the stability of that building. which is leaning against mine. when they go through the process of reconstruction, what is going to happen to my building. that is what i am concerned about. ms. harris has owned the property for years. we used to me at her house. i know this building extremely well. i used to go to the top floor of this building. a lot of stairs. an elevator might be a good idea but i need to know it is going to be done properly.

this is not the correct process. thank you. i hope to make the right decision. -- i hope you make the right decision. >> any other public comment? you have an opportunity -- we will start with rebuttals. if you have anything else to say, you have three minutes. >> i am bill ronson, and i was the one doing most of the male's back and forth -- emails back and forth. we were aware that there were more permits in the pipeline that may include the elevator and the other stuff. our concern is air wells on to the master bedroom suite. if you put an elevator next to the master bedroom suite, we want to be sure that the noise

and vibration will not be there. if that is done and the bathroom has fans that vibrate or make noise, that is fine. we do not care that want to put four elevators, but we want to be sure the privacy of the house and also the lighting, the noise and vibration issue. as long as we can proceed on that basis, we're fine with it. thank you. >> thank you. >> we have a bottle from the permit holder now. -- rebuttal from the permit holder now. >> regarding the comments, i do not know if i need to reply. we're talking about a permit which is not in front of you. it was for the permit, the deck

and igh light well fill in. no drawings have gone out. we did not meet with mr. silver man. i was turning in my life, everyone was leaving. he said everyone is going home, will i get to see a copy of the drawing? i explained the would be mailed to him, this part of the 311 process. if he is within 150 foot radius, he would receive for the plan. that is not the permit in front of you know. i will make a suggestion. there is a lot of bad communication. i try to keep my policy for everybody. what i am hoping is some good comes out of this meeting, where more than happy to meet with ms. harris regarding elevators. the moment we felt were going to propose it in the permit prior to doing that, i would let her

know that and give her the opportunity to be with us to see the location. she has this fixed notion we will put in this light will. we have not designed one. i have not been told to go ahead. if we did an elevator it might not be in the allied well -- light well. once again, the best thing is i keep an open door policy regarding neighbors. we are more than willing to meet with her face to face but that is not the permit tonight. mykleby regarding the drawings. i am an architect. -- mea culpa regarding the drawings. i -- i wildest imagination i never thought that based on that she that this would ever get in

front of you. again, my apologies about that but that is not the intent of the drawings. id o want to correct that -- i do want to correct a statement that we have proposed an elevator. no elevator has been proposed on any drawings that have been submitted to the city for a permit. thank you. >> anything more from the department? commissioners, the matter is submitted. >> i do not believe i have enough information to consider the concerns raised with respect to the proper line window -- property line windows. i would request commissioners consider the possibility of extending this out so i can take a look at this -- these

drawings. >> i think -- the issues that potentially may occur between these neighbors is not based on his permit. and obviously, the level of communication has not been great. i would recommend that it improves a lot otherwise. there will be many appeals. -- i would recommend it improves the lot, otherwise, there will be many appeals. we have the permit indicates the

seismic nature of -- some reconstitution of the interior spaces. i have enough with that. i hope they are able to resolve their differences in terms of what information is required for their next permit. it appears there will be another one and i think that is the one that will be the main focus between the their agreement or disagreement. -- either their agreement or disagreement. >> one of you, one commissioner is satisfied with the permit and what has been discussed here tonight and another commissioner is asking for a continuance because the commissioner is not satisfied we have enough information in front of us having to do with the windows. when understanding is you felt the clarification had been reached here tonight and you,

speaking on behalf of ms. harris, you are content with the resolution at least having to do with this permit. would you go to the microphone and let us know if you are satisfied that the property line windows are as described by the architect and verified by mr. duffy that they're not impinging on the privacy of this house? >> we are concerned about the windows, exactly where they're going to be looking. that we're not clear on. we have clarified a lot tonight, yes, but that we're not clear on. we appreciate your comment -- we do not know enough as to where those windows will be. >> do we have drawings with us tonight? as the architect have it? -- and does the architect have it? even though some people appear

may be able to leave, i recommend we have a five minute recess and look at it and if you want to request a continuance if we do not have those plans, you might get one. if you are satisfied with what is presented to you as to whether or not that is going to impinge upon your privacy, maybe we can put this to bed tonight. >> i appreciate the effort to be efficacious. my concern and the desire to have this opportunity to review the plans is that i do not believe that given the discussions and presentations we have heard that the appellant has efficient -- i do not know of five minutes is going to do it here. it could, we will hear back. we heard from the permit holder that there is n ot goinot goinge

intrusions' of privacy. they do not know what approved means. there is a lack of information and comprehension of what the processes are involved and i think it would be -- i am stating this for the record. i agree with vice-president garcia that if you can sort it out in five minutes, wonderful. i want to make sure everyone has the opportunity to understand what is going on and that is my point here. >> we will save you time from having to come here and to have the project sponsor here and deal with this again. we can line it up with the house. i think we're ok and we have the photographs of the house. >> as a result, if you want more time to contemplate.

>> mine i suggest that we invite the department to help in this process? >> we're going to take -- we will call it five but you take as long as you need.