supervisors when they come back from recess. they come back in early september. it should be on second read. the mayor will hopefully sign it within 30 days. nicholas king, i do not know how many of you know him -- nicholas, raise your hand. i am happy to say that he is handling a lot of the permit applications now. they will be ready to go right away. we know that there are a lot of places operating right now that are operating out of compliance. helping to scoop up those people on the piano in their restaurant. they do not cause any problems, but we need them all in compliance. this permit still requires a hearing. still requires notification of

neighbors. we think that it will be -- i think that it will be a really good thing. the entertainment commission, as far as this small business commission, we are really hopeful that this will be a good thing for entertainment, live music, and musicians in san francisco. any questions? no? i did a good job. right on. so, i am done with mine. commander correa is here. i do not know how many of you remember dick crenshaw from last year. he retired, much to our chagrin. happily, we have his replacement in the form of commander correa. [applause] >> it is amazing how many of you i recognize, but i am used to

seeing you later in the day. good morning to those of you that worked late last night. the comments so far, i do not know what i can add. telling you a little bit about myself, 31 years in the police department, i have worked everywhere, it seems to me. i am sensitive as a station capt.. i know the whole process and how it works. i have run my own businesses over the years. i was brought back to the police department. it is a long story. i understand revenue and expenses in real terms, not abstract terms.

i appreciate the balances in the industry. my role is to support economic vitality and support public safety. to me, that seems to be the balance. i of the stand that you have a good relationship with crenshaw. i think that that will continue. i do miss being involved in the day to day, neighborhood stuff. my excitement come from this role, as well as parks and recreation. my father often said to me that if i have a chance to stop talking, i should take it. he also said that it is not having the answers in life, it is framing the questions. i am thrilled at the notion of these breakout sessions.

stopping to talk about what the issues are, thinking about ideas and the future. there are two things that i live by. most of the problems at the end of the day, then i do not stay very involved. and working with bluegrass, i was inspired by the way that you operate your business is in dealing with its complexities. abc licensing and i do not know if i can raise this quietly and then stepped off stage. i will try. on the licensing issue which is

a foul day that falls on him i will work out my recommendations. we have a 20 day extension allowed. now, that said, if you have this as of veil license and you can contact them at 543-1049. i can only say that we will work

with you and tell you what we are doing. to know -- do not wonder what is going on. the other issue is parking lot issues. we were in a meeting two weeks ago who did the rationale apnea ryan and and i saw a rough reflection on the venue. i think that there is legislation going through to deal with that. the police code, which took effect late last year, took the process of parking lots in the hands of the police department.

it is an annual inspection, as well as an analysis of the location if you have a parking lot -- may be the operator leaves at the clock and cornell i want to shoot you -- sheet those questions directly on to the alcohol liaison unit. they will make sure that the proper people are involved, or they will be in it themselves. there is a revocation process. we can talk with them than about things like lighting, security, who is that the lot and what hours. that kind of stuff. i hope that the discussion have been i am glad to take any

question if anyone has them. let's [inaudible] i appreciate your approach in your thoughts. i have always felt that is -- it is a very slow city. wax [inaudible]

-- >> [inaudible] people in the department have had attitudes around night life, i felt they were counterproductive. when i worked for hours on a new leather bar on bolten street, they were trying to limit the hours to midnight for nights per week. a perfect way to close a business. [laughter] i think they have done such a great job. this is just a commercial. an award is rent -- deserved for the people who are responsive, putting in a big picture.

i really appreciate that you will be able to get it done for us. i appreciate that. >> so much of what she said resonated with me. i cannot say enough about david and his crew. they are so on top of things. where are things on the process? give them a call and you will find a very open door. i lived in the city. i left for six months once that i could not stand it. i do take advantage of the night life. probably more restaurants these days. talking about job creation and

economic vitality, we do not turn the lights off when the folks are gone. lots of people are out in the still thank you for -- in this. thank you. [applause] >> i wanted to explain a bit about the break out. if you could say, i hope that you will. i think that this is one of the most important parts of this. one, getting you all in a room together. you are in your venue all of the time. when you are not there, you go home and are with your dog, or whenever. obviously, i want you to meet each other. breakouts, i will try to create

four if we can. two groups. one will be in the small room. i was going to try to do two on either side of this room. do your best. there will be someone in the group to redo what we can. this is great. thank you for coming. i really appreciate it. [applause]

arewebcastinwe are webcasting . supercool, i think. to do that well, we need to be amplified a bit. i know that we lost some folks. nick, did you take notes? what i wanted to do was have you come up here. we were all in different groups and hopefully we have things to learn from each group. quickly, because i know it is getting late, vaj, do you have your notes? did we wind up with four or three?

this seemed like a great session. we do have another microphone, if there are questions that come up. but i think that these will be closing comments. >> you can correct me, if you heard something different, but i heard points one, too, and three were a more pro-active police presence. proactive policing, instead of just responses to emergencies and deterrence. in general, there seemed to be a sentiment of a bid of nickel and dime business. whether through fees or regulations. or a sense that we have to do a better job to make sure that regulations are appropriate,

fair, and balanced. one more, dealing with neighbors. we can do a better job of trying to address people's complaints in a constructive way. trying to figure out a way to deal with components that do not go away, even if other people do not think that there is a problem. that is what i heard. anything else the to would like to that? -- that you would like to add? >> with my group, some of the three big points that were discussed, the first was uniform signs. right now a lot of venues have signs about being respectful to the neighbors. they will use certain code

language, like no loitering. but those signs, in different shapes and colors. they are talking about making sure that every venue had the same language, looking venue. wd idea, it is uniform, people see it. not only in north beachx%gsj maybe city wide. the next is temporary taxis jones in and around clubs on the weekends. it is 2:00 in the morning. it is hard to get a cab. if we could put in temporary tax rezones friday and saturday night, it would be easier for people to find cabs to and from then use. last, more light. i know we talked about cities,

areas where there is a lot of venues packed into a few blocks. they will actually bring in temporary light towers. the last thing is organization. as venues, it is really important that you come together, whether it be in cmac, or your smaller organizations, so you can work together, have

one voice to work with city government. >> that is a perfect segue. i was in the group with south of market, bayview. we talked a lot about organization, communication with the police department's. something that i wrote down that i did not even know, if you feel like you need to call the police, you should. if you do not feel at 911 is appropriate, use 553-0123. i did not know that. that is a direct line where you can get an ambulance. we also talked about -- the commander talked about -- your

relationship with your police officer. the captain said he intends to start a monthly meeting with the nightclub owners at the station. he does not want security. he wants to meet with the owners of the night clubs once a month. that is a fantastic idea. i want to plug that around to all of the stations, certainly the ones that have a number of night clubs in their area, so that that can become a routine relationship. if a capt. changes, which happens all the time, that can also continue, regardless of what capt. is there. those were the big ones. some discussion about risk-reward in using promoters. there was the resolution to this issue but it is something that you should leave here thinking about.

some people chimed in to say that there is not a dime that they would not bother turning using a promoter if they thought there was some risk involved in that. obviously, other people feel differently. that risk- reward ratio is something that you need to think seriously about if you are going to continue to use promoters at your venue. at this point, certainly take some questions. if you are done, it is 10:04. i appreciate you all coming. we have the bac cards. -- feedback cards. i would love to hear it in e-mail form or you can call me. please use the entertainment commission as a resource, but be nice. you saw all of us today. we are here to help you if we can.

we do have to issue some permits that those of you -- that somebody do not like, but there is. thank you. >> hi, my name is pete shoemaker and well toll energy center. i'm standing in front of a model of a home. this is one of the tools we use here to assess solar energy. five years ago i was in a position similar to that of many of you. i was a homeowner thinking about solar electricity for my home. i had to answer a bunch of questions. one, does this stuff work? would it work on my home and most importantly, can i afford it? well, i did the research. i bought a system. now i get to share that knowledge and that experience

with you. for the next 30 minutes, we'll have a class in solar basics and we'll go out in the field and see an actual solar system being installed. 30 minutes, solar basics, stay with me. >> let's talk about the technology, what is it and how does it work? there are three types of solar actually when you sauk about solar. i want to avoid the confusion to make sure we're focusing on the right one. two of them involve heating water and they're very viable technologies, can be very coast effective but we're not going to deal with them right now. one is solar pool heating. it pumps the water up there, heats it, runs it through there, the sun heats it and back into the pool. this one is called solar thermal or solar hot water. it heats domestic hot water or d.h.w. that's your hot water that you use four showers and

dishwashers. we're going to talk about solar electric. they have the same technology as computer chips. they're similar in structure to that tran cystor-like computer chip technology based on silicon. the best thing about them is there are no moving parts and they last a long time. there are cells, modules, and arrays. a cell is one of these pieces here. it's a small unit wired together in a certain way to produce half a volt. these are hooked together in whatever size to be a module or a panel. those terms are sort of used interchanningbly. you hook as many as you need to for your array. it is very modular and adaptable technology. you can put it whatever size you want. there are two sort of competing or comparable technologies on the market. crystal lynn is the one that's been the longest. it's made from crystals. it is firm, hard like crystal.

they're over 85% or 90% of the market now. they have the highest efficiencies. in other words, they'll capture more of the sunlight per square foot than the other technology. this can be significant especially in a city like san francisco when maybe you don't have a lot of roof space, but you want to get as much power as you can. this is probably the choice preferred for most homeowners. the second technology which is coming on strong is called thin film. that's really a whole different technology using a lot less material. it's like sprayed or painted on, a different way of producing electricity. this stuff has a lot of potential because it can be used in a lot of different ways. this is a thin film panel here, right here and one of the innovative ways you can use this thing is on thought metal seamed roofs. they have an add he'sive backing on and they can stick down on the roof without penetrating the roof. it's a very effective and cheap and safe installation process. thin film has a smaller, a lesser efficiency. half as efficient but it's

about half the cost. so if you look at it, a small system 1.2 kilowatt systems, it produces 1.2 kill what's in full sun or 1,200 watts. in crystal lynn it could would take 500 panels. in thin film it would take this much space. they would produce the same and at current prices they cost close to the same. let's look at the typical system components here and i'll show you how they're laid out on the house in a minute. we know what the array is. they're hooked together. they're mounted to the roof by rails and mounts. they're hooked together with wires and switches and things like that we call that the balance of the system. it's a relatively minor component as far as price goes. so your array is mounted to the roof. it's wired to the inverter which is a simple device that changes d.c. current to a.c. current. that's all it does. it fits on the side of the house next to the meter

typically and isn't very large. about this big, a foot square maybe. so that's they typically are warranted for 10 years. they're probably last 15 years. so on a cost analysis for the system typically run an inverter replacement at year 15. the inverter is wired to your loads. it uses electricity, appliances, whatever and it's also tied to your meter. the only real visual impact on the house is the panels. the other stuff is almost never seen. the thing about solar panels is they work during the day owl. so the big question is what about at night? well when isn't shining. in the past the only solution you had to that was batteries. you would have to purchase a large group of batteries and wire them to your system. during the day the sun would produce what your house needed and charge up the batteries and at nighttime you would draw off

the batteries. what has made solar go from a niche market and explode to a big popular market has been a breakthrough called net metering. because the sunshines differently during different parts of the year it makes sense to go for a whole year before you settle accounts. so you get a statement every month, but you don't have to pay it unless you want to. your credits or debits roll over from month to month and at the end of the year you settle accounts. the key concept is magical in a sense. the utility grid is a two-way street. you can send electricity back up in the lines. because you can do this, in effect, the grid can take the place of your battery. it reduces all of the cost of maintenance of electricity and ensures electricity. if you're tied to the grid, the grid is always standing there ready to serve you during the day it's charging a lot of power. my kids are at school, my wife and i are at work. there is not much going on. it's feeding my refrigerator or whatever.

so most of my power is excess and being sent back into the grid. my meter is spinning backwards and banking credits to my account. when i come home at night, then i'm buying back electricity from the utility, drawing off my "virtual battery" in a sense. think of it as an economic transaction. you sell back during the day and buy at night. and that's how it works. hi, i'm here with carl, he is the operations manager for solar city. we decided to take a little break from the cls room to so we could see some of the solar panels in action. carl, how are you? >> very well. nice to meet you. >> how do you like the weather? >> not too bad. >> kind of sunny. how does that impact our solar panels when we have lots of sun versus fog which we are typically accustomed to in san francisco?

>> well, contrary to popular belief, solar panels will produce electricity when it's foggy out. how much depends on the density of the fog. on a day like today it's hazy for typical san francisco weather. on a day like talking, you can expect 80% of your what would be your full production on a clear sunny day. >> so if i were thinking about getting solar panels and i lived in san francisco and i was worried about haze versus full sun and how that will impact what jets yated, are there any tools or tricks that i can use to determine what the production is going to be like? >> the first thing you need to do is look at what available area do you have. typically most residential systems gone on rooftops. in urban areas like this, we don't have big yards. they will go on rooftops. you need to have good southern access to sun. things that can impact your solar access are buildings in your vicinity, big trees, things that will keep the sun from