logic of saying a juvenile as an adult. a juvenile is a juvenile. an adult as an adult? give me a definition. if you look at the rich and the privileged, you ever see that movie "stepbrother? these guys are 40 years old, oh, my baby. and some 14-year-old, some orphan, is an adult? make clear, make the definition clear. it should be based on age. tell me what age you want me to prosecute as an adult and i don't care who your daddy is. if he is under that age, he is a juvenile. >> justice is in the gray. nothing is ever black and white.

we need to have a much more effective response. does do everything we can to stop our kids from getting into the juvenile justice system in the first place. the other is a judge to do that. there were a enough partners brought to the table. they were all there, health education focusing on the best response. it has gotten federal funding and is an effective way to deal with highly -- to look at how we deal with kids in the system. at the end of the day, you want somebody experienced. i will only exercise in

extremely isolated circumstances. >> another lightning round question. regardless of your earlier answer about reporting adults to immigration authorities, would you follow a policy of not reporting juvenile to emigration and to adjudication? >> we need a conviction first. >> i'm against any reporting. >> that's yes. >> yes. >> no. >> yes. >> use of community courts or collaborative courts from minor crimes face challenges because of budget concerns. there has also been a criticism for such evidence like privatizing criminal justice. what are your views on these concerns? >> i am concerned any time that

you privatize the justice system. i would be against privatizing criminal courts. i know it is often done in the civil arena. take san francisco, we are losing between 20 and 22 court rooms. that will impact primarily civil courts. in criminal cases, i will be opposed to it. >> i am completely opposed to privatization or anything else like that. privatizing his and the answer. >> privatize criminal court? that would be unconstitutional does like the neighborhood courts in the community courts. they are unconstitutional. i have the subject matter.

we live in a state, the state constitution gives them the authority with the subject matter. it cannot be stipulated. who knows how much money is being bled out there? if you look at these statistics, san francisco, it is not a giant court. we can do if in a proper authority and the proper subject matter jurisdiction. we can do this. >> i think the community court is another example of the campaign season dealing with the highly sensitive issue like quality of life crimes. many rightfully say it is privatization because it doesn't bring all of the essential partners to the table. you need your most experienced

dna and your most experienced prosecutor. and to partner with wraparound services to you can deal with the cause rather than the symptom. >> this question has taken on two separate issues. privatization is wrong. you should not be dealt with by people in our contract to the south. as far as community courts, i met with three candidates that did not know at that time. one of the conversations about community courts. it is really no big deal. under the situation where people prefer the diversion type situations, at least not to the extent they have locally. it takes care a lot of the problems they use it much more

effectively. >> history has shown a number of a wrongful convictions have been based upon the testimony of jailhouse informants. what, if anything, will you do to ensure against false testimony? >> i strongly supported that legislation and i am glad that it passed. we need to be very skeptical of this testimony and put in all of the proper procedures. even in concert with other evidence, we need to be very skeptical. again, the job of the d.a. is to do justice, not to convict. we need to make sure that our evidence is completely reliable.

>> and his use of incentivized witnesses is a terrible practice. these people are in jail for a reason and they become self interest. we talked about getting witnesses from the jail. and we should know exactly what is going on in these jails. people go into jail and they don't come out. sometimes they died. why should we know exactly what is occurring? we should know, just -- they don't have any right to privacy in jail. we should know the truth. maybe he is telling the truth. if he isn't, we know that that didn't happen. >> i think it goes to a training

issue. you can put cameras everywhere you want, but at the end of the day, you have to teach how to do things right. i've been a leader in terms of training. i have conducted seminars and conferences around the country including hawaii. i testified at the u.s. senate to teach our legislatures. training is essential. i have trained a law-enforcement about what it means to corroborate testimony. and how you handle everything from undercover operations to jailhouse informants. you have to disclose what you're doing and you have to back it out. that can only be done with cooperation. >> training is important, and you look at district of attorney

candidates. as far as this new law, some of us know how to try gazes. some of us know when evidence is useless. by having that knowledge in hand, we can pass it on to others. the district attorney is somebody who has been there and done that. the district attorney doesn't have to go to court and try cases. the district attorney, him or herself, should be inspiration to those people in the office. people should know that my boss has been there, my boss has done that. the job is district attorney, not district manager or district administrator. >> i know how reliable the evidence is prior.

i also believe i am the only district attorney in the state endorsed the policy, i am very pleased that actually passed. >> san francisco is uniformly seen as different from other cities. how should our differences be taken into account in determining what should be prosecuted? >> the question is so vague. [laughter] >> objection overruled. >> i am serious, what differences are we talking about? how're we different? we are humans. we are subject to the same defilement, but we have different values. there is an over criminalization of crimes.

so what should we do with the criminal justice system? if you look at the statistics, it is static. we focus on public safety, we focused on not having the next person dead or injured. we can deter crime. look at my website, have real solutions to this problem. we of different values, but we have constitutional values as well. that is what keeps us in common. and not what is different amongst us. >> i think it is very important to look at differences. some voices aren't heard. for 20 years, i stood up to those that don't have a voice or are disregarded -- if your shirt was too low, no meant maybe.

we trained that it's not because -- we have that same issue with children being sold for sex. people look to them as prostitutes rather than as victims of child abuse. the transgendered the community is targeted for being transgendered. we need a leader with vision that can protect the differences, who can insure that everyone in our society has a voice and that nobody is marginalized. we are leaders to protect everybody, not just the most powerful. which is why we need a prosecutor and not a politician. >> of course differences are important and that is why we have a different district attorney for each of the counties.

san francisco is unique. he moved here recently, i assume, because he liked differences go better than wherever it was he came from. she talked about when she first started prosecuting rape cases of the way people view the people, that is not the way it was in san francisco. i was a prosecutor in the 1970's. we did cases that later became known as date rape cases. my partner and i were at the forefront working with the women against rape and working with the commission. we aggressively prosecuted sexual assaults on victims that would not have been prosecuted and other counties. he not only need to be someone that has been the court room, but you have to be somebody that knows san francisco's values and represent the city by making certain that the crimes that are important are the ones being prosecuted. >> community values should always play a part in

prosecutorial discretion. it must be central for the decision making process. >> i think absolutely the values of an elected law for some of leader have to be reflected in the decisions of what to prosecute and what not to prosecute and how to focus in the office of's resources. for 20 years, i've been working in the communities of san francisco. these are, again, the types of approaches that we want to bring to the d a's office. not only understands the law for approach but understands the approach from the community and can take those values. from neighborhood groups and clubs at every corner of the city, because i reflect their values and the trust that with me in the d a's office, their

values will be reflected in the work that we do. >> another lightning round question. give us a one-sentence description of the most important thing you will do. i will prioritize the juvenile unit to make sure it is the highest priority in the offices of the young people don't enter the criminal justice system. >> work with the community to deal effectively with violent crime and prioritize the juvenile system. >> to achieve justice for victims of violent crime. >> how to change the whole investigative unit. they will be starting to solve of violent felonies, they are not going to of the bar for the assistant district attorney. >> one possible way to help the process and reopen civil courts is early resolution of criminal cases.

many plea agreements are not negotiated until late in the process. how would you solve cases earlier? >> when my car breaks down, i call aaa. i have come up with the plan called eee. first we energize to move cases through the system and 120 days. then we expedite, using proposition 115. those kinds of testimony can be done through other witnesses and forms. and also evaluate as the last e. we have a 14-day window in which i would prioritize before they are filed in superior court to quash the the court rooms. -- clog up the court rooms.

let's move vigorously to make sure that we are not wasting our resources. >> there are things called a motion to continue, defense attorneys are very adept at that. often is a delaying tactic, but more often than not, they needed additional time to prepare. people waved time because they need their attorney to be prepared. what i would do is use by in a knowledge, my institutional knowledge of the san francisco court system and my understanding in respect for people in the probation department to work together to move things along. to decriminalized by moving people out of the criminal justice system, the diversion process was cut short by a former district attorney and hasn't been increased to the extent it was before by the current district attorney. i would allow more people that

are charged with misdemeanors to be -- i would griot misdemeanors so they would be discharged before they ever got into the system. >> first, we are taking 20% of the low-level cases and moving them to another court. we're working with the presiding judge to move cases that the underlying counts of the cases may be. or drug abuse and moving those cases away. we're working on creating a system of resolutions in order to be able to do risk assessment early on and check those cases to provide meaningful and real resolution to those cases. not only looking at what is happening today, but trying to assess the long-term outcome is. we really do not do anyone any favors when we do not look at a

case in the totality of the circle. >> we need to divert as many low level cases as possible so they are not clogging up the courts. we need to look at what is happening in the plea bargaining process, it is a very non- transparent area. we need to open up our books and bring in outsiders to show us how we can improve case processes. it is something that i have a lot of expertise in working along the country. stanford, at berkeley were worked out, for we have had preliminary conversations about their interests to come out and help improve the system, we look at the data to see where cases are clogging up the courts. >> that's a good way to end it. what is the problem?

it has to be because we have some and a misdemeanor cases. i am told that the only trial that goes on in seven it is are misdemeanors are homicides -- or homicides. misdemeanants, we can deal with them. let's identify them. get their attorneys on board and get their dna. deal with them, but a seriously violent offender, what are we going to do? we're going to prosecute all serious and violent offenders. you come to san francisco, you commit a serious and violent act, we will prosecute. >> minority communities historic the distrust of the criminal justice system.

they are in most vulnerable to law enforcement of use. what'll you do to address those problems? >> i would bring the district attorney's office into the community. it doesn't cost anything and as a step in the right direction. by the district attorney that lives in the community. find somebody that is in a central station district or bayview, park station. he asked that district attorney to be the district attorney for mission station. he or she deals with the problems that happen between prosecutors and between police officers, anything from police officers missing court dates to district attorneys being late. it becomes a vital part of that community. the community does that they have a district attorney that they can talk to that will have the ears and eyes of the district attorney.

that individual would work well with the community in making sure that the district attorney's office is stepping into the community to do the right thing. >> i agree completely, but that is already being done. i think we need a new idea. we actually have never heard prosecutors assigned to stations. we have the four districts with prosecutors and they are working with the police in the local community in order to problem solve. this is an idea that has been around for many years. the other thing we're doing is we are servicing the community. we are going to those most underserved communities. it is a case with the prosecutors, my plan is to have every police station serve quarterly. i am working with community- based organizations, working with foreign council.

in order to reach out to communities. but in order to make ourselves more accessible. we actually have to tell you are absolutely right, this is one of the biggest problems facing all of us. public safety depends on the community trust in law enforcement. we need to have the highest ethical standards to be completely transparent and we need to work with every community in this city collaborative way which, again, is what i have been doing for the last 20 years. who are leaders in the community based organizations? they work in partnership with them for 20 years. i have worked on focusing to

reduce the representation of the use of color. we need to change our policies and practices to make them fairer so that everyone is treated equally and we need to have the community partner with us that we build trust. >> our black community is going down to about 5%. if the jails are filled up with a black suspect, there are racial profiling. they're doing a violation of the fourth amendment, targeting someone based on race. how do you combat that? you look of them with a video camera. are you out there just looking at someone because of their race? stop it. police properly. he did not in bed ada into the police station. that is a bad idea.

they start sleeping with each other, literally. i am serious. keep independent. you should have a representative of each district, but don't put them in a police station. >> we still have community issues. what is the problem? we are not keeping it real. we have to talk about the elephant in the room. many communities feel that they are being targeted because of their skin color or a variety of other reasons. we have to talk about it. racial tensions are not new to me. how do we deal with those issues? by talking about them. by bringing the d a s a leader of an umbrella action to talk about these issues, to hammer

out a solution where trust is restored because we are experiencing a crisis in confidence. video the flareups is not going to solve the problem. the can't ignore it, we actually have to talk about what the problem is. people feel that they're being targeted because of their skin color or their socio-economic status. that has to end. >> the site of money, what is the greatest obstacle to the attorney's office? >> aside from money, the lack of technology. the technology is very antiquated and this is an area i've been working very aggressively to operate. we have been reaching out to other partners in the community. we have already started a

modernization process. we're leaning towards the creation of a better technological solution to many of our cases. >> this is similar to my answer to the last question. but we are missing through trust and collaboration with the community. that is what we need to make it safer. we need people in every neighborhood of the city to trust the police, trust our prosecutors, to come forward as victims and work together to make our streets safer. right now, that trust is not very and i am running for district attorney to bring that trust back. >> we need to modernize the investigative unit. you need to go out and solve crimes. modernize that unit, and regarding the lawyers, it raises

the bar. you make them highly efficient. >> experience and visionary leadership. i've experienced leadership by leading the aledo trial teams from public integrity, restitution, sexual assault, creating model programs throughout the state and throughout the country. and leadership outside the office, there are over 111 police agencies. nobody is talking to anybody. we have to work with other jurisdictions that have a regional approach. criminals don't respect the borders. our criminal justice response needs to be one of coordinated action. i had a nine-county task force.

i acquired three of the thousand dollars of federal funding. i want to bring the same regional approach in dealing with criminal justice going forward in partnership with organizations beyond san francisco. >> it is largely a trial attorney's office. one thing that they really don't need is technology. very few people have computers. lucky need is leadership, training, and the need to give the district attorney's discretion. so they won't have to run to their boss who doesn't want to make a decision. let the young district attorney make decisions. if they make the wrong decision, they will hopefully learn from the errors of their ways. who is best ui