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this is dangerous for the disabled and seniors. by switching the parking lane to provide physical separation between bicycles and cars, this eliminates the current separation. the pedestrians joined from the parked cars, with a narrow strip, and then cross that line. for those with mobility impairments, it is basically many hundreds and affects almost all of these spaces. these are parked in regular space is more often. like many, i have a wheel -- a
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wheelchair and a minivan with a side ramp. it would be impossible to enter and exit to the vehicles, and 10 more seconds. we should have a little bit more than two minutes. i can tell you that i will not feel safe or be safe with this. let's focus on this particular design, -- >> diane and paul? >> i ride a bicycle between 8000 and 9,000 miles per year, 2,000 miles per year on the streets of san francisco. this beautiful new repaving, i
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consider this, in its current state, to be one of the most accommodating venues for bicycle riding in san francisco. i am terrified -- terrified of the prospect of driving through this as it is currently designed. it will often be populated by bicycle lists with different levels of speed, often driving being followed by the training cyclists, trying to pass them. i expect the buffer zone will be a passing zone and a passenger and loading zone. this is for accidents and close calls, among the population of the bike path.
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i think the commission for their interest in the well-being and positive experience of cyclists, and asked for them to reject this proposal, redirecting the concerns and the resources to projects that would benefit those who actually ride bicycles. and conservatory drive which is used by hundreds of cyclists every day. chu e., martha, lisa bonner, and julia -- and paul. >> i am resident of san francisco. i have been here for 15 years now, the european extract.
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this is mystified as to why private automobiles are allowed at all. i have come to accept this. and that i see that this proposed segregated bicycle lane seems to be the best option, and i ride a bicycle or take public transportation. that is one of the reasons i came to live in san francisco. this transportation mode -- i race bicycles. i am one of the group that is on tuesdays on the west side of the park. and i can say that no training cyclist would use the bicycle
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lane. the training site lists that i know -- they would ride on the roads, and the bicycle lanes would be used for their intended purpose, which is the commuter for the slower times like this. i do not always stand around at the high speeds, and i have almost been hit by a car but this has not happened yet. i have almost been hit on four different occasions. i am fearful of the occasion that causes a disabling industry -- injury. and i welcome any initiative that increases the safety of
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bicycle riders. >> martha, lisa, juliet, and christopher. john tollaway and patty. >> i used to serve with the citizen's advisory committee, and i am also of officer with the association of responsible people, just south of golden gate park. we totally oppose this plan. the unintended consequences and the mass transit authority. i live just to the south of golden gate park. we used to have three lanes of traffic, with a northbound lanes, and a few of them had
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southbound lanes. but there were always three lanes of traffic. they talked about calling this traffic. and we signed on to this. who does not want this? we wanted to direct the traffic, leaving the neighborhood safer for the children, the rest of them. they put in two lanes of bicycles, cutting out one traffic lane, and leaving a turning lane which worked out well for the people driving into their homes. what happened was, traffic was backed up. if you are on lincoln, that commute times, you cannot even go to seventh avenue.
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and if you are on the the alphabetical street, you cannot even turn on to seventh because the cars are already there and there is no room for you. what i am talking about this, be careful. when we solved the problem, we ask for the mass transit authority to come speak to us. i am saying when you have this land, the cars will circle around looking for a place to park in the neighborhood. do not approve this. >> martha? >> i am part of the 7% of the bikers, and i feel confident. but even when i fight, with market street i feel relaxed and
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safer, and i can enjoy my bike a little bit more. i also know that because i go for the park a lot, it is hard to see where the blacks should or should not be. in the pavement on some of the recreational pathways, and i think that by having the very visual biking area, the tourists and the families will come to this museum and i think it is important that the parks be for recreation and not parking cars. >> lisa or julia, could you come forward? christopher? >> i live in the richmond district. i only learn how to ride a bicycle three years ago because
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i saw all of these biking lanes. and i thought that maybe i should try this. and through a wonderful education class i learned how to ride my bike. i am always on the east, and to me, having this designated space would be a huge difference in how comfortable that i feel in dealing with cars. i often am afraid i will be cut off. it is tough enough to ride on jfk, and if we had this kind of infrastructure i would have gotten out of a lot sooner. >> thank you. >> i am a six-year resident of
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san francisco and i commute by bicycle every day. i spend an hour of every day in the streets of san francisco. and i ride my bicycle to the following destinations, with jfk. there is the golf course, and the outside lands to the west, and occasionally ocean beach. i was just like to voice my support for a separated by plan on jfk. this would encourage more bicycling and would make it more safe and inviting to the public. >> thank you. >> good afternoon. i have been a resident of san francisco and i fully support
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this project, and i live in the land for an m homeowner. and joseph also a member of the san francisco biking coalition. i know what it is like to get around on a bicycle in san francisco. this proposal would create a separate area between the cyclists, and the vehicular traffic. this is actually designed to bring more of the metal people that the staff were talking about the like to ride a bicycle but don't uncomfortable --. -- who like to ride a bicycle but don't feel comfortable doing so. there are miles and miles of tracks just like this, where,
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physically, you have the sidewalk, and then you have the parked cars, the physical barriers to stop -- separate you from vehicular traffic. you have to negotiate the bicyclist, and blessedly, you have a traffic jam or you have to slow down at 3:00 in the afternoon. the users of the separated cycle track can negotiate the space to let others pass, and take the car over to the sidewalk. this should be an easy upgrade to complete and i encourage you to do this.
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>> good afternoon. and so the director of the art museum of san francisco, i will go into any of the points right now. i do want to reiterate that we are in support of the state by claims, and people have spoken about the current situation that needs to be addressed. we also appreciate the efforts of access mass transit authority to reduce the number of spaces lost in this plan, and we will continue to work together to see if we can further minimize this. i do want to talk about the implementation. there is a short window in december when schools get out and during the holiday season, this is a very busy time for both institutions.
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we encourage the implementation take place in january but if we can use the window when the attendance spikes as part of the educational campaign, that will help the project be successful at the end of the day, which is the usual goal of everyone. one clarification on the parking, the overall percentage includes both museums, with the different facilities. and the staff actually parks outside of this area because of the time-limited parking. in terms of the parking tickets, for people to make $16 an hour this is very tough. >> is there anyone else who would like to make public comment on this item?
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if you would please come forward now. please, come forward. >> you have probably received a letter from me so i will not go too far into this. i would like to recommend that you put off this project until a serious review. there are problems with this -- and this bicycle lane. i think you are exposing the city to a lot of liability risk by not having one of these with the implemented sign. and i am alarmed by some of the comments made by the mass transit authority staff about reinforcement. understanding is that california is not a state that requires cyclists to use bicycle
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facilities. bicycles are told to use this because this is dangerous. one of the effects of this, this forces a lot of people away from the bicycle and and the parked cars and into the so-called traffic lanes. i would like to make a comment that has not been made here before. november 6 is the last day of daylight savings time. what happens is those who commute by bicycle go to work and find out that this is dark. you can find the lanes by this -- a lot of people won't go to the bicycle path in the
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panhandle for the same reason. please let this have a review. >> if there is anyone else, could you line up by the door of? thank you. >> i am a resident from out by the cliff house, and i ride to the park every day. during the weekends -- some people may think that i live there. i am on jfk all the time. as one in the seven of 10 people in san francisco who ride a bicycle, i encourage you to make a protected by kuwait. this would help a number of people. a 56% increase in cycles. it is evident there are more
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people out there. i is common sense and i slowed down. i have had the joy of encouraging friends and colleagues to try this as well. this is with -- west -- with the hopeful information. this is the flattest way home. and a great way to stay safe. i say this is a great way to begin your work day, and when i drove a car, i never met anyone on my commute. i have got more than 10 people to work to introduce the best route, and i may be someone, if
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this is packed -- for the most part come -- the most part, people were trying to encourage to ride, with all of these facilities, i think this is a good idea that can only help things. thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. in neil patel with the san francisco coalition. i want to thank the staff for the tremendous were to build what we see today. i am one of the people who has been part of this whole community process. and i know that many people from the neighborhood community, from the corrugated council have been a part of this process.
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i would like to see this important safety improvement go forward. i hope that we can see the safety improvements in san francisco as well, and the notion that this is quite different than what we have in many of the streets of san francisco. we have people getting off the bus, going to the sidewalk. this proposal helps to add a little bit more to the streets, as many of you know, you have received electronic copies. there are the 250 support letters, but this has been so heartwarming to see people supporting this project for their children. most of all, the families of san
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francisco, who are biking and to our wanting to get their children to all of these wonderful attractions. we are committed to working to all of the agencies. we're educating everyone on the road in making certain that we are doing what we need to to make things safe for everyone. >> is there anyone else would like to make public comment on this item? public comment is closed. >> commissioners, are there any questions or comments? commissioner lee? >> thank you for the work that you have done, and i had one question. we expect more people riding bicycles to come here, and we
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have a bicycle racks -- if they want to spend time in one of our museums. this is to accommodate the usage. >> this is certainly something that is part of parks and recreation, and the staff. we have over 600 bicycle racks that we install through the plant -- grant funding, so the question is not if we have enough racks, but making sure that this goes to the right place. we want to make certain that they are installed securely, with part of the process. we have surveyed about 10 more locations in putting in more bicycle parking. we are more than happy to make certain that we have the safe
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and secure places. >> this is an important point, and i also have the capital staff, because i feel that encouraging more bicycle usage with the bicycle rentals that we announced last week, this provides for people with the bicycles, using these facilities, spending time in them. >> i have a jumble of thoughts. first, i wanted to be known that i support this program. i just got back from vacation overseas, and i did write over 100 miles over many different days, but the point is that the
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bike riding is good for a lot of reasons and we need to encourage this. i do feel compelled to, if nothing more than just for the record, the institution of this. i used to work at the academy of sciences. access to these institutions is important. there was a time when we have the institutions that should leave the park. they said that they had to stay here. it is important that we have the institutions, i want to say something for the institution. i want to thank them for their help with this. and an approach that works well with everyone. i want to encourage all of those players to keep talking.
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i not want everyone to think that the work is done. we have to stay on this. when we have the effects of many years, with the initiative to get more bike riders on the part. i get this and i am good with us. in terms of implementation, these institutions have access to thousands of members that could really be very helpful in crafting the message. we all think that this is a good idea and know how to deal with this. i want to work closely with the membership department of the academy. and lastly, i would also respectfully request that we do honor this request and i am certain that the academy feels the same way. and moving as to a time that is
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not so impact fall, because this, at a minimum, is something that we could do. i intend to support this. >> my feeling is that you would see the implementation started after the holidays. we will see if we can have this because i support this and have been in conversations with both institutions. i know like many other people, this will impact a large picture, to accommodate a wave of enthusiasm, with a green way of getting around and a more healthy way, and having said this, i have a question before i get -- because i sit on the mid market review team. i go through these meetings and i learn about this, and not one of them had to do with the bark
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-- the bike lanes for market street. this is the planner term that i learned. i think much of the fear that we have this we have the most vast bikers and we say, how can we restrain them in the lane with people who were just entering this, and we see people with advertisements -- they're zooming down the road. this is not a fair statement. but i have been converted to bicycles. and some people here have something to do with it. having said this, is there anything for the biker with all of the skill sets to move along with traffic being prohibited -- prohibited to using the bike lane? >> there is no requirement that
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the bicyclist have to ride in this track. people going 25 miles per hour, the effect that they will be more comfortable on the road. when i talk about the enforcement, we make certain that they are stopping for the stop signs and i am not talking about the traffic co., we're talking about enforcing the by kuwait. >> it seems that i share the concerns of the disabled community about the access in the area. i don't think that this should affect the way that this is going. there is more of an ability to see the people exiting the