got it a pleasant day is tuesday, october 25, 2011. [ roll call] >> in accordance with rule 14, the senior commissioner will be the acting commissioner. >> are there any additions or corrections to the minutes? the i have a motion? all those in favor? motion carries. at this point, i would call for public comment. >> we have a couple of speaker

cards today. >> my name is espinola jackson. i come to you because the last time i have a conversation with you are when you have a combined meeting, this is dealing with the community college. i would like to give you my history. we started the human rights commission in 1962. in 1972, the citizens of san francisco -- because of that, there was litigation. land was given to do what it desired to do. they first offered us the bill,

and we said no. we wanted a community college. the subject would come up like nursing. the class's were closed. we knew what the needs were. we still have been fighting for issues that we have been going through for 50 years. and i am tired. i want you all, as of this day, i want you to have your staff cease and desist, make a decision for what goes on at southeast community college. it is the responsibility of that commission, it was a mandate that we have a commission, and that the community with the desire what goes on in that college, and education and training facility.

it is not for what ever you think you might want to have. once my commission says this is what the community wants, then they can come to you. but at this day, i want you have your staff to cease and desist because i went to a meeting last friday at the chancellor's dated to may, what you're talking about we can't do because they said that we can only have the fourth floor. your staff doesn't make decisions on what happens to that college. when you were set up, i did not know you were being set up and because you weren't even established at that time. it was the public works and the water department. and there are a lot of other things that we were not informed of until 1996. i want you all just to stop because i am getting too old to be stressed.

and have my community come to seme. the majority of them are not going to speak. i liked to stand a better in support of what i am saying to you today. thank you very much. >> ms. jackson, a couple quick questions so i can get my arms around it. is mr. moses here? >> he had an operation a couple of weeks ago. if you look at when the commission was set up, it was the community that hired mr. moses. it was not the city. his own staff -- when he leaves, and i believe he has been there 20 years, he should be about

ready to retire, it would be up to the community to decide who we want to make sure that we get what we started off -- we have not changed our plans. who >> let me ask you a follow- up question. when we were out there a few months ago, we had a chance to hear from them being. -- the dean. he's here, right? >> no, he's not -- i don't think he's here. >> maybe i can help. as i think everyone here what it meant, that facility has been underutilized for some time. he community college district was failing to offer a number of class is, they were closing class is down. they have another center out and

cutting other class is. we got involved because we have a responsibility to make that a vibrant building that is good for the things that you wanted to be. we have suggested a number of things to the community college district. we have met with the chancellor for a long time. based on our suggestions, they added classism and are starting to make it more vibrant. but we don't think this is the only possibility for that building. so we have been looking at other choices that we plan on bringing back to the southeast commission and say that these things look like choices also. do they work? because of that, interestingly enough, the other genes have decided that since it is now a vibrant place, they want back then in a building they were planning on the abandoning in many ways. we're figuring out how to share the space. there have been afternoons were

you seeing no one. it sits empty and having no one uses it is not to anyone's benefit. we're trying to figure out how to program the building to make sense, but nothing will be done without you folks to make sure that everyone is aware of what is going on. city college has flipped on that building so many times from abandoning it to meeting all of it. they're not very good partners, frankly. >> can i make a correction? we have had several deans. they didn't do their job. we could not do anything about it until some of us learned what was going on. we had them removed and we demanded that we have a young man to become the dean of that school. he is not the dna.

in order to talk to these young brothers and bring them in. to bring back the nursing program and bring back programs that we had. this young man was part of that movement. the reason it is going out is because of the change. they had to go get a woman that was the dean of that college. they had to get her out of retirement to come and go with me because of the fact that i am saying what has happened and what is going on. and she is making sure that she went back and told him, what was going on there. what mrs. jackson is saying is a fact. she did a report, and guess what? yes, they are on the road to recovery because of the fact that we passed and acted on a commission because they told they couldn't do anything.

i said, yes, you can do something. that is the reason why i requested when roger it was the ceo to set up a commission that the department of public works into the water department would be responsible for that building. and when i come here this last year, i guess it was last year, i am hearing that you own the building and you can do what you want with it? that is not true. you cannot do that. we are not the garbage dump for the city that we have been all these years. >> we are your partners. and we are the ones helping that building. >> when they had the meeting, i ask that you come into the meeting. that is why you got involved, because i requested it. have the meeting, a combined

meeting with the college and your staff came. i am the one that gave that request because they were unaware of what they were supposed to be doing. i am a fair person. i want you to be fair with my community. i want you to listen to what we want and not what you may think will be good. i have people coming in that says that they are going into the building. you're not going into my building because you're not an educational system. everything that we fought for we are still fighting for. just last week, i went to human rights. all those that were set up in 1962, is on their agenda. nothing has been done. everything that we ever got we have had to fight for. nobody is giving us nothing.

don't shoved something down my throat and tell me that you're going to do this. we fought for it. you didn't do nothing. but make sure that that building would be taking care of with the services that we wanted. when you became a commission. i have never seen your charter. >>, miss jackson, thank you. i'm just trying to get my arms around, because i take it seriously, the cease and desist order. the commissioners, we don't direct staff. i want to figure out -- >> new director general manager to wait until we come together. there is a meeting tomorrow and if you want to send one of your staff to the meeting, it is the governor's committee where we will be discussing what we need to be doing with you and everybody else in this city.

>> and i want to work with you directly. the last time i found it not only educational, but in lightning. and the documents you distributed i went over with a fine tooth comb, and that is the history. promises that were made are promises that have to be kept. i am feeling like i need a little more help to help. i want to be engaged. that way i can be a conduit home and assist you in the way you want. >> thank you very much. >> my name is oscar james, i am a bayview hunters point resident. i was a commissioner when we accepted the property for the college. we had a bayview hunters point college with city college

courses, berkeley campus courses, and san francisco state courses. three months prior to it being opened, the defunded if. of the programs had to be self sustaining and that is why the city college is there by themselves now. when we had all those other courses and all of those other facilities, the place was packed. you say you're having problems keeping the building filled. he brings some of those campuses back. it will help people for that area of education. he became a phd with some of the courses there. those of the type of things we need. but that is our property.

we're not going to let anyone take our property. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> commissioners, my name is francisco decosta. i come from time to time to address issues not only of the community but issues that have all of san francisco. espinola jackson, you know her very well. she has been not only a fighter, but a mother of the bayview hunters point. what i am saying is very simple, pretty well, including your

attorneys. i know where you come from. we have to have focused meetings. as much as i think i know about sfpuc, when in doubt, i call my friends who work for puc. is this true? can you enlighten me on this subject? so i am educated on issues. even though i know a lot about puc for the last 40 years. so we have some dealership here. we need to contact the right people who gather the right information so that what ever is going to happen