to an opponent of proposition d. i am here with the executive director of the san francisco labor council and an opponent of proposition d. why should voters voted against proposition d? >> i was telling people why they should vote yes on measure c. d is the opposite way of the way people should be doing business. this is a scott walker wisconsin initiative. it was done with no input from the workers. it was financed by a key party republicans that have financed the this and got $5 a signature to put this on the ballot. none of the city workers were involved, it was unilaterally put on. it is the wisconsin way of doing

things. it does not accomplish what is supposed to do. it is legally challengeable. i am asking everyone to vote because there will be legal challenges with what it purports to do. >> proponents say it will save $400 million more than a proposition c. why should they not go with a measure that is going to save more money? >> the process was done without any input on those numbers. they are way over bloated in terms of the numbers, it probably does a little bit more money than what we did, but it was done by the same type of republicans that are attacking public workers and wisconsin, san jose, other areas around the country. it will not save that type of

money. we worked with the city comptroller, we talked to workers, we had major analysis. everybody agrees, this is the way that the city will run better, it will save money and jobs. yes on c commonality. -- no on d. >> the increments they used to determine a contribution are smaller >> is a bogus argument. people claymore during bad times and not so much in good times. it is sensitive to workers that make -- police and fire and up paying more. it was done with a thorough analysis of different employee

organizations in the city. >> thank you so much, mr. paulson. for information about this and other ballot measures, go to the san francisco league of women voters website at sfvotes.com. early voting is available at city hall monday through friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. >> i am columnist who writes about san francisco politics, and a member of the san

francisco league of women voters. i am here with the league and sfgtv to discuss proposition e on this november's ballot. ♪ propositioned e would allow the board of supervisors and the mayor to amend or repeal initiative ordinances and declarations of policies that are passed by the voters beginning in january 2012. initiative ordinances and declarations of policy are the only kinds of measures that would be subject to proposition e. for three years after a particular measure takes effect, the board and the mayor may not amend or repeal it. after the first three years, the board and the mayor may amend or repeal the measure with a two- thirds vote at the board. after seven years, the word and the mayor may amend or repeal the measure with a simple majority vote to the board. proposition e will not allow the border mayor to amend or repeal.

measures that the voters approved before january 1, 2012, or measures that the voters place on the ballot by collecting required signatures or charter amendments and bond measures. ♪ i am here with supervisor wiener, a member of the san francisco board of supervisors, who is also a sponsor of proposition e. thank you for being here. why should we vote for proposition e? >> it is very basic reform of our ballot measure system but our system in san francisco in california as a whole is broken. they're too many things that belong to the ballot. other measures that on the ballot that should be handled at city hall, that we should not be throwing at the voters. and then, one measure they are passing on the ballot, they have a rule in california, we're the only state in the country that does this come aware that measure can never ever be touched, not even moving one comma after 30 years without

going back to the voters for another ballot measure. it is a completely rigid system that does not benefit anyone. it is bad government. prop e would basically balance that out a little bit by saying that for ordinances that are put on the ballot by the board or the mayor does not in any way affect signature drive ballot measures. or the mayor put an ordinance on the ballot that, for the first three years, it would be untouchable by the board. for the next four years, the board could amend the measure with a supermajority two-thirds vote. after seven years, the board could read the legislation like any other piece of legislation, subject to the legislative process that is how it is done in every other state that allows voters to legislate, except california, and i think it is just a good government measure. >> can you think of an intense where, had we had proposition e in place, the voters would have

not had to go back and vote again on some cleanup legislation? >> yes, if you look at prop f right now, we're asking the voters, among other things, should political consultants have to file with paper or electronically? should they have to file every month or every three months? but the most voters, if you ask them, would say that should not be on the ballot. that is the kind of legislation that should be handled by the board, but we have to put it on the ballot because the boaters that the original ordinance. i also have been working with both tenant and landlord advocates to clean up the rent control ordinance so that it reflects accurately what courts have ruled. they have started on some of our provisions, but the municipal code is inaccurate because it does not reflect those rulings. i regret that it is to try to come up with cleanup legislation, and it turns out we cannot do it because most of those provisions were enacted by the voters.

even if a court strikes something done, we cannot even clean up the municipal code to reflect that without going back to the voter. that does not make sense. >> what do you say to voters who are nervous about giving the power over to amend something that have passed at the ballot to politicians, to members of the board, and to the mayor? >> first, prop e only affects a small percentage of ballot measures. italy impacts, at most, 20% of ballot measures. 80% are completely off limits. it also does not in any way allow us to minnesota measures that were placed on the ballot -- allow us to replace measures that were placed on the ballot by voters. what it does do is say that when the mayor or the board put something on, we need to have some flexibility after the fact. a lot of times, we see the board of supervisors but measures on the ballot that are not well thought through, that have come

out of no public process, with no prior scrutiny, and then the >> if they vote yes, they shouldn't be amended again, it goes back to the voters. in reality, it's too difficult to run a campaign for it. this is a very, very limited, very, very modest good government measure that really does continue to respect the will of the voters. >> thank you very much. up next, we'll hear from an opponent of proposition h. i'm here with eileen hanson, a former member of the san francisco ethics commission where she served for six years. ms. hanson is an opponent to proposition e. >> why should voters vote on proposition sthench >> it takes away the rights of voters. it's a perfect example of the

voters able to have their say and vote and proposition e is a measure that once the voters have spoken, amend that decision or repeal that decision. so this measure actually undoes what the voters have said and that's not appropriate, in my view, or in the view of many, many, many who have come forward to oppose proposition everyone. >> persons who are in favor of proposition everyone argue that it's limited in scope. it doesn't apply to amendments put on the ballot of voters signatures and it's 20% of the measures passed by the voters. how do you address that snitch >> it applies to e issue that was put on the ballot by the mayor or board of supervisors. while it doesn't apply to measures put on the ballot through signature gathering, it applies to very important measures that came to us through our elected officials. again, once the voters have spoken, regardless of how the

measure ended up on the ballot, who are we as elected officials, anyone who is elected to undo the voice of the voters. i believe that democracy is about the voters' choice. once the voters have spoken, that is the end of the story. there are plenty of measures that i personally disagree with that i wish haven't passed and what i do need to do about it? i need to work to get those measures to come back to the ballot. i need to work my elected officials. i do not expect my elected officials to undo what the majority of voters have said. >> certain officials who have endorsed proposition e said they have done it to voter concerns and anger to have vote for so many propositions over and over. the idea behind the proposition is to allow them to clean up certain propositions so we can cut back on the frequency and the number of ballot propositions that voters have to contend with.

how do you address that issue? >> certainly, some people are concerned that our ballot in california is too long. i have not heard any good government advocates say that. i actually haven't heard many individuals or haven't seen any organized opposition to our ballot, so i'm concerned that this measure comes really not from voter advocacy or voter concern, but comes from people who believe that the voters should not be the folks who have the ultimate choice. and to me, that's arrogant. it's patronizing to voters. the message about proposition e sponsored by supervisor weiner as well as f sponsored by supervisor weiner both come from the place saying that elected officials know better than the voters. whether there is too much on our ballot or not, the voters, it seems to me, should not be talked down to, should not be told that they need a measure

like this because as supervisor weiner has said, the voters go to the ballot. it's a complicated ballot. they don't know how to understand the ballot. there hasn't been a lot of vetting of the issues. there hasn't been a lot of discussion before things get to the ballot. so the poor voters get to the voting booth and don't know what to do and it's not fair to them. >> i believe that the voters particularly our voters in san francisco are very educated, are very knowledgeable. they believe in democracy. they want to vote on measures and they don't want to be told that they're not smart enough to figure out what to vote for and what to vote against. so once they have made that choice, we need to respect that choice. >> thank you. >> thank you. we hope you found that informative. for more information about proposition e and the other ballot arguments, please visit the website of the league of women voters at sfvotes.org. remember early voting is available monday through friday at city hall, 8:00 a.m. to 5:00

p.m. if you don't vote early, be sure to vote on tuesday, november 8.

♪ >> prop f we change the registration, filing, and fee requirements for campaign consultants. under the city's campaign consultants ordinance, campaign consultants working on local campaigns must register with the city's ethics commission and file periodic reports. prop f would redefine a campaign consultant to mean any individual who earns at least $5,000, instead of the current $1,000, for campaign consulting services within a 12-month time

span. require that campaign consultants file reports monthly, instead of quarterly reports. other is the commission to require electronic filing of all required information instead of paper reports. and finally, and the fees payable to the city for they no longer depend on the number of clients. it would also allow the city to change any of the campaign consultant ordinances requirements without further voter approval. ♪ ♪ impossible. announcer: when you open a book, you can explore new lands... [bird screeches] meet new friends, and discover new adventures. there are amazing possibilities when you open your mind to reading. [roar] you can log onto he library of congress website and let the journey begin.

>> good evening. welcome to our mission they can on my way -- mission campus. on my way over here, i heard that steve jobs died today. he was a good friend to the region, the area.

i thought it would be nice to have a moment of silence to recognize him and honor what he gave the world. on behalf of ucsf, i would like to welcome you all here. this is our mission day campus that former -- formally opened in 2003. we are proud to be co-host in tonight's forum. we want to thank the beat. i want to thank our moderator. and i want to also thank our journalists panel. [reads names] thank you for donating your time tonight. in 2014, we will celebrate 115 years in san francisco. we are the second largest

employer in san francisco, with nearly 23,000 employees, nearly half of whom live throughout the district. we are about 6% of total city employment. that is no more than the entire financial services industry. san francisco is, needless to say, invested in who the next mayor will be. one of our largest and most successful partnerships is with san francisco general hospital. we partner with the city for doctors in health-care providers at san francisco general here -- general. we also partner with the school district to support quality science education. we touch about 90% of the schools in the city. finally, the campus here has

blossomed into a vibrant campus. before mission bay was opened, it was over 1% in the bay area. today it is over 6%. coincidentally, that was the year that apple computer was founded. many of you have noticed the current construction under way across the street. that will be home to our new cancer women and children's hospital expected to open in 2014. we will have two hospitals. as i said, we are an integral part of the city. we love the city. it has been part of the very fabric of ucsf for years.

it is with great pride that i welcome the candidates. with that, i would like to introduce the president of the san francisco beat of voters, patricia mcgovern. [applause] >> good evening. welcome. my name is patricia mcgovern. we are dedicated to the active and informed participation of all citizens and government. we take stands on issues. our work is made possible by its members and volunteers. for more information, visit our website. for further information about

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they will have a chance to present their views on issues affecting the city and to answer your questions and those of our journalists panel on those issues. each candidate will have one minute to answer each question. to submit questions for the candidates, look for the volunteers that will be handing out index cards around the room. we will collect all questions by 6:45 p.m.. i wish to remind you of our crown group -- ground rules. no literature, campaign signs, or buttons may be distributed or posted inside of the living room. candidates and supporters are expected to be respectful and to help maintain quiet. candidates are asked to make no personal attacks on other individuals. no flash photography is allowed. this forum is being taped for broadcast.

these new or turn off yourself phones. i am pleased to introduce our moderator this evening. cheryl jennings anchored the 11:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. newscast on abc 7, monday through friday. additionally, she is the host of "beyond the headlines," which takes an in-depth look at issues. a longtime volunteer for the san francisco beat of voters, she is a past recipient of our "women who could be president" award. we are honored to welcome cheryl jennings. [applause] >> good evening, everyone. thank you for this great turnout. you have such an impressive

turnout. we have 12 candidates in the form that we are going to use, for those of you who are familiar with the league, we have a one minute opening statement from each candidate, then questions from each journalist. raise your hand to let people know where you are sitting. the journalists are going to ask questions of the candidates, questions of their choice. they may ask follow-up questions. it bit different, we may have a lightning round within this section. this is confusing to me, so if i get confused, they will straighten me out. this will entail cancers, a simple yes or no, with follow-up questions. not everyone will be included.

we apologize for that ahead of time. all candidates will be timed with a maximum of one minute for questions. following questions by journalists, candidates will have questions from those of you in the audience who are submitting your views right now. take advantage, this is your chance. candidates will each have one minute to answer questions. because of the number of candidates that we have, there is no time for rebuttal. we do have timekeepers. if you have been to one of our events before, this is fun for me. this is the only time i get to tell a politician to stop talking. [laughter] it is not me, actually.

it is the timekeepers. it is their fault. what will happen is they will signify to the candidates that they have 30 seconds remaining. then they will hold up by red card. there you go. to indicate that it is time to stop. before we begin, i would like to introduce to you francis matthew, from the department of election, to talk about right choice of voting. francis? [applause] >> fenty. i am here from the department of elections to give you a quick review of how to market right choice ballot. starting on friday, -- how to mark a wink choice ballot -- rank choice ballot.

it has three columns. all candidates running for the office are listed in all three columns. mark one choice in the first column, a different choice in the second column, and an even more different choice in the third column. make sure that you only mark 1 selection in a column. if there is only one, we cannot count that or anyone after it. also, do not mark the same candidate for all of your choices. your vote will count for your first choice as long as your candidate is not eliminated. if the candidate is eliminated, then no vote can be counted for you. mark it different second and third, so that your boat can go to your next favorite candidate. if you have questions, i will be available after words.

or you can visit our website. click on the voting tool kit that has all of the information needed for this election. thank you, we will see what the polls. [applause] >> alright, we are ready to begin. i am now turning off by phone. let's all turnoff ourself phones. all right, let's begin with opening statements. we will start in alphabetical order. >> good evening, everyone. my name is jeff adachi. i am running for mayor because san francisco megan meier that will stand up and fight for what is right. something i have done my entire career as a public