service doing green buildings, yes. if you are to submit a project that will achieve a gold rating, prior to 2012, if you were to submit it today, we would be prioritized to the top of the pile, in the building and the planning department and the department of public works. planning has raised the bar to what we had during a year or two ago. every single one seemed to want to be prioritized, so they were all leads. assuming we had a list of people waiting. so what the planning has done is raise the bar. plus another 20% of available

points. so yes. but if you bring in a project today, with the building department, we will say you are at the front of the line, we will take you next. and the same other factors, water fish and landscaping, reduction, management, guidelines, the energy commission in. now, i want to skip the existing building stuff for a second and talk about residential building. make sure we're clear, it covers b m m. it does not cover smaller buildings yet. look at residential buildings,

here. what residential buildings are covered by this or mets? -- ordinance? all residential new buildings, no exceptions. the first are small, four or fewer units. and then a the second step is midsize, and that is a building with five or more units, not a high-rise. a high-rise is a building which is 75 feet or more from lowest point of fire department access to the highest occupied floor. so a high-rise building has a different set of standards here

for residential. when you have mixed occupancy buildings, residential, commercial, b and m, you get to choose which of the standards you want to use. because it is difficult to combine them. you get to choose your standards. for a small residential building, there is a requirement where if you look at our sheet here, in 2009 you must submit a check list, and there is a minimum of 25 green point's required. can you tell us what that means? >> sure. green points are points that you get for including prescriptive majors under the system, and for project to be recognized as

green, it needs to meet at least a minimum standard, 50. , including a few prerequisites. energy requirements at least 15% better. so when the current standards past fort points, that is a measure that you need to include the checklist for drawings and also choose a few measures from the checklist that to be very easy to find. there is some recognition of benefits of development in terms of transit and other benefits. 25 points, and there is not a verification mechanism, because it is below the standard.

it is a primary funding source. but they are likely to be a nonprofit consensus-based organization, helping with maintenance of standards overtime. >> so we have two standards. one is the lead standards promulgated by the building council, and the others paraded standards -- other is rated standards. the greens' standard started to focus initially, with leaves for homes and neighborhood development and all sorts.

but still, green point rated is closest to what we would think of as a prescriptive check list of things a builder or developer might reasonably be able to incorporate into a small development without getting into the whole complex of analyzing the overall issues. we are trying to make it simple for the builder. >> in 2009, i got a product with the residents were your only requiring 25 points. the forms, 50.6, and there are a lot of different requirements. energy, 30, health, five, resource, 6, walker, nine,. is that being applied per, you

know, 50%? how is that being done this year? >> this year, he simply need to show that you got 25 points. it is an educational point. people have to go through the checklist and see what you are doing, understand it. starting next year, in 2010, you have to be point -- and meet standards, and there is a minimum. >> any 25 will do this year, in other words, and next year the distribution categories to apply. >> i have heard that it is combining the standard or equivalent in the lead certification. >> great question. so the question was, there --

what is the relationship between lead for homes presidentially obverses green point rated -- presidentially, versus -- residentially? it is the primary standard recognized by the city for residential consideration, and there is a memorandum of understanding. lead is the leadership standard and lead for homes is a harder level to achieve. green point rated is designed to be credible but more friendly, so if you were just green -- you would not meet the minimum bar for lead homes, but if you were home certified, you could be

simultaneously green point rated. does that answer your question? in most cases, for the sake of simplicity, that felt optional, to achieve multiple certifications. some credible standard that they're home has been built to some verification. but you could optional we choose to get certified, and there are other standards, as well. >> but if you hit lead, you certainly hit green point rating. it is builder friendly. it is a checklist, certainly. meeting the lead standard requires that your design team comes up with an overall strategy and be very integrated into the project as a whole. >> it is complex, especially for a single-family home development. it is certainly very doable. it is being done.

but it is something that is focused for a project with sophisticated resources applied to it beyond what should be the baseline for construction. >> my second question is, is lead a nationally-certified, or is it more of a global recognition? is it also recognized in europe? do they have different standards? >> the answer is yes to all of the above. they encourage interested parties and other nations to develop their own organizations, and they could have their own standards. however, lead is still most recognized, and a home in san

francisco. it is meaningful globally, but it is a u.s. standard. >> ok. so what do we have to do for these new residential buildings? it would be hard not to get 25 points. in 2010, you need to be rated, and in 2012, you need to make sure that you get a minimum. and also meet storm water management guidelines.

it requires serious consideration early in the process. that will not meet guidelines. we really need you to integrate back into your overall building. midsize, the standards are virtually the same as a small residential acceptance, up at 2011 instead of 2012. and for the high-rise building, we have been talking about the difference, and most high-rise residential buildings fit more reasonably in these larger complex buildings. so you get to choose. the standard is, in 2010, right now it is certified, a minimum

of 50. plus special requirements, and in 2010, it is green point rated with 75 points. and special requirements are with production, storm water management, and reduction. so we tried to keep it as simple as we could, simple categories for residential. we have not seen it too many problems yet. we have had a whole lot come in, as you can imagine, providing paperwork. we will talk about paperwork in a second. we have new commercial, new residential, and one more category. it says a new large commercial

interior or major alteration to existing buildings with b m and r occupancies with more than 25 a square feet. basically, we're saying, there are two things. either the first kind of improvements in a building, or some other kind of alteration. first time improvements have to make reading requirements, being certified. when you look to achieve a lead rating for commercial improvements, you do not try to certified the whole building. there's a special program called commercial interiors which focuses on the space that you

are in. >> it applies to the options that are most commonly available, said the energy portion tends to be a little more limited than in other standards. other major considerations. >> so they redo the building or change the building overall. >> and you get credit, but there is improvement for being housed, cert. so that bar will actually decrease because the shell building is already going to be affected in the future by these new large commercial standards and you just need a few extra points for improvement, and that would be something that you can

use to maintain that consistency of application of standards. >> and then the other piece of this existing building is if you are doing significant upgrades to mechanical, electrical, or plumbing systems in these buildings, with the existing b r or m occupancies, and it is over 25,000 square feet, you have to meet some of these upgrade requirements, but only if it is over and you are doing significant mechanical upgrades and structural. it must include structural, and that reference is the standard of seismic upgrades. chapter 34 says when you are doing a certain amount of alteration work, he figured an

upgrade. work triggers it. if that standard is triggered, which is a very high level, and it is very often met, and in addition to that you are doing over 25,000 square feet, then you need to believe certification or the equivalent for standards. so three things. structural upgrade, over 25,000 square feet, mechanical upgrade. there is really a place where it could be an issue for folks, applying to b and m, but it also applies to residential. so when someone knocks to renovate it work talk about some kind of helping, it is over 25,000 square feet and they usually do structural upgrades

with their plumbing systems. that could be a big burden on these kinds of groups. triggers, a couple of times. fortunately, the historical building code which i mentioned earlier provides some relief across things qualified for building codes, and you get release for certain building codes. so there is a solution so it does not become overly burdensome. ok. now let us see what this looks like when you submit it. if you look at attachment b-one, there is a signal template, and here is what it looks like. we want a sheep that looks like this attached to your plan is set, with everything legible to

our minimum microphone sizes, and maybe it takes two sheets, and that is what we need, so we try to make it easy for separate sheets or whenever it is. this particular one is if you are doing a lead or leave the equivalent system like you would do for these guys or high-rise, we have green point ratings, if you use that, and we see which of those elements you will be achieving, and importantly, with the actual model of these checklists here, here is one of these checklists. there are a lot of pages. you check what you are providing, and you actually tell us where on your plan you can

find the elements to claim that you will be doing. so you say you are going to be putting in the point because we're using engineers, what ever is. you look at whatever it is. tell us. or if it is not submitted, there later is an addendum and they will be submitted. so you have the same check. yes, we will take care of that. but we do not know where is that you'll be doing it. so speaking of tracking, people often say, well, how do you report this? are you checking this stuff? the amount required to meet a lead certification is a big stack of documents materials. basically, leave it does the checking. you let them know what you are

intending to do, they give you approval in certain ways, you finish the job, and you are proving to some level that you meant it and they provide you with certification. if you go through that process, we are satisfied. we are not going to be checking all of your submissions, we are not checking on the field to make sure you have the right kind of paint on the walls. you have to do that yourself. and green point rated has a similar program. so we will accept that. we will not be plan checking. the problem might come in those buildings where someone says they will not need lead or get a plaque, they will meet an equivalent standard. or we say, well, how do we know? these are the agencies that are

checking it. so what we have done is written into our rules that we may be doing something with those buildings that are not certified or raided, and we have not gone there for a long time, with who is doing them and so on. but if you are certified, we consider that. now there is a bit of a problem for somebody building a brand new building if they want to close out the job, and it takes another four months to get to certification. we say, well, we have not gotten your certification yet. but they have a procedure detailed in the fullest. in my purchase schiller -- professional opinion, i can sustain these events, and we

will accept that. if you later get your certificate, send it to us and we will replace that letter and your of the hook. >> the professional record would both the to have their professional license and a corporate credentials.

>> they can sign as a professional, but ultimately what the department is asking for is potential license is engaged in the process. typically, something does have a stamp, or they would not get their approval anyway. >> thank you. did i hear correctly that for 2009 you will not be doing more requiring verifications' for residential buildings? >> that is correct. for 2009, there is no requirement that a small project the green point break it -- rated. you do not have to show that you have met the requirements. you have to just show us which

of the 25 points to our meeting. -- you are meeting. >> and what is the time? any project submitted as the set of requirements that apply? >> these time frames begin january 1 of each year, and it is based on the date of the said middle of your permit applications, your health and safety code. it is the date of applications that the requirements be effective. so if you are to submit now, you have to meet the 2009 requirements. if you are to submit now on a permit with a sense of details in 2010, you do not meet the

requirements, you meet 2009 on your permit application. so if somebody were to have submitted something last year, up even though the addendum was coming later, the state of your permit application, foresight permits, you know we have something called a process where you submit an umbrella permit saying here is the concept, the size, and the shape, and you go through the planning review and approval process. you do not want to do all the details and architectural drawings, because that could take the story off. and later you submit an addendum. the agenda are now permits. -- not permits. the only permit is the site permit, but first umbrella

permit. so the trigger is the date of the application. >> then at what point do you submit the guidelines? would that be during the site permit? >> yes. you submit this checklist, and as i said, it will not be submitted until you submit your addendum. it will be part of no. 3 or no. 4, and there should be part of your application. >> it may not be relevant to what the building department could be interested in at all. it could not be applicable. >> right. you could look at major transit hubs. or maybe it chose the site plan or something.

>> during the process, if things change, you could resubmit the check list. >> that is right. >> just like every other thing you do. >> right. >> sometimes the sale of the building is earlier and the interior comes. how is the interior -- according to the building interior, how is it scheduled? >> there is a leave project for it, so you choose which rating system makes sense and i think they would generally choose the shell in that instance, and the new first-time tenant billed out, they come in for design on

there and there would be separately certified commercial interiors as the most common solution. and then we could probably come up with an example where they choose to do something a little different. >> in preparing for this, i wrote this little memo, thinking about what are some of the significant challenges we are facing. one is the lack of focus financing sources. we've seen -- i have seen many people say, i would love to do full lafayette -- photovoltaic. but to simplify it so homeowners think it is easily done is a big challenge, and i think we are