come for you -- come to you for help but we were told that they have already made changes and they were not interested in hearing our concerns and making any more changes. thank you. >> additional speakers. >> hai have lived here with 30 years. with cars parked in the street, and two cars cannot pass one another. the houses are built close together. all of the houses behind me are three stories. all of them are built in the mediterranean style.

when i moved in, the house to my right was an original three story structure and in 1990, the house to my left added on a third story that was not set back from the street. this caused shadowing in my light well and the garden. the deposed addition appears to be overbuilt for the lot, building another house on top of the existing one. if the addition is allowed to proceed, this will cause loss of sunlight, shading, and shattering to my living room, entryway, and front garden. in addition, with a three story structure is behind me, across from me, my house will appear to be smaller than it currently is.

moss will grow on the front driveway and back. the houses are all set back and are not visible from the street. no one would like the marine at too have many skyscrapers. houses for sale in this street are described by many retailers as the best street in the marina. this would no longer be desirable. i am not opposed to homeowners modernizing their houses as long as this is not a detriment to the neighborhood or the neighbors. i asked you denied a permit until such time as the plants can be changed to be similar to the other houses on that side of the street and set back and not visible from the street.

please preserve the character of rico way. thank you. >> i am a friend of the good people at 66 rico. i am disappointed that they are building a mcmansion that is out of scale and out of character. i think this setback requirements, i don't know them,

of course. i am not your expert here on that matter. the setback is not far enough to the scale of this house as it has been shown in the plans. this is too big and allows -- it would cause more precedent for every home on that lot once sold, there is about 2600 to $1,601,600 feet. why? i would like to see you enforce your limits here and encourage a discretionary review. thank you. >> thank you. are there additional speakers in favor? if not, project sponsor.

>> i have some handouts for the commissioners. >> we are the owners of 60 rico way. we moved there with plans of raising a family. we need to address the floor plan currently to create a little space. that is the only reason that the growing family sold the house before us and moved. it was necessary that we addressed the odd configuration of this space and add a third floor which would allow us to have our children's rooms as the same floors as ours and this is a modest addition and the majority of the homes are three and four story homes.

we looked to stick to the guidelines and with the character of the homes. we held several meetings and shared plans with neighbors. we sent out certified letters to all residents within 150 feet inviting them to come over to our house. we had one neighbor attend and then a brigade of support. all of the meetings we had with our neighbors resulted in support of our project. many of our neighbors wanted to make their support known to the commissioners and they have written letters which you will find in the last 8 pages of your packet. we met numerous times with the dr requesters tend to we provided them with their own set of the enlarged plans.

they made it clear their goal was to prevent the addition from coming to fruition and have now followed through with filing this frivolous dr. we have worked very hard that not only met our needs, addressed neighbor concerns come respect to the neighborhood characteristics, and met the city guidelines. we need to create bedrooms for a growing family. the plan will allow us to reconfigure the nonfunctional layout of the home. we have made a great number of concessions to address the concerns of the dr requesters and planning staff. we had a redesigned which resulted in a loss of our staircase which was the core of our design.

we sat back 22 feet. this resulted in a loss of square footage in the master bedroom and bath. we eliminated the front overhang as staff request. this was originally designed to make the architecture of the new match the old. we have spent a significant amount of time and money trying to work with the dr requester, given them plans, as "as a significant number of hours to prepare. at meet with the request and their representatives. we made every effort to work with all of our neighbors and respond to staff and even though this calls for only a 15 foot setback, the planning staff required that we set back more than 26 feet. this was called a historical asset as exclamation. this was very painful and also

confusing as similar applications, one at 27 has been approved in last year. also, none of the recent projects on the street or connecting streets have been designated with this historical significance that staff has solely decimated to our property. i hope you will be allowed to get more clarity on this anomaly. even though we have such a small amount of square footage to work with, we progress in lee complied and submitted the plan be have before you today. we have figured out a way to get the bedrooms on the same floor, we are disappointed with the reduced size rooms. with our responses to staff, concessions, and support to the neighbors. we hope that you will approve our project. we are available to answer any

questions you have. >> thank you. >> speakers and support. -- in support. >> i am the designer for the project before you. i would like to draw your attention to what i think are of the facts of this proposal starting with the neighborhood. we are in the marina district. it looks like this. all of these houses behind it, they are all three or four story structures. on the opposite lot, all three or four story structures. on the road itself,

predominantly three or four story structures. every one of these back lots is a parcel with a three or four story structure on it. to do this with numbers, in the two blocs, 87% of the homes are three or four stories. on the street itself, 71%. on the subject blog face -- block face, 72%. the facts speak for themselves. this is a three or four story neighborhood. we would like to join the other three and four stories in the neighborhood with a third story

of our own. a way to notice this tile roof on the top because it will be significant in a moment. here is what this is going to look like from across the street. you have approximately 2.5 feet of the third floor that shows above the front roofline. nothing at all like the other picture you saw. this was computer-generated from the plants. it is accurate. i am running at a time. am i to know we had -- we can walk you through it later. i have things to say about the historical designation. this is an issue i wish i had time to talk to you. taken altogether what we're left

with is a project we have modified three different time significantly. we're squeezed down to a size that is barely tolerable and we would like to be asked to be allowed to bring this proposal back to the 15 feet in front. thank you. president miguel: project sponsor? >> good evening. i am here with my wife catherine. we have lived on supervisor mar: re -- rico way. i am here as a neighbor of troy and mary. anctually bruce and margaret. the majority of the homes are three stories. our house is not like theirs. i am bothered by their misrepresentation.

he showed you some houses where he should do our home. some of the houses are three stories. this is an issue for a very unique block. throughout this process, mary and troy have reached out as have margaret chan burris and they have been very professional about this. we have barbeques and block parties, we talked in the street every night. where are out there with our dogs. we have close relationships. my concern was i became involved this would have set the nature of this unit block as you will hear that most places that go for sale so within days. even in this market. it is unique. as an attorney and believe in fairness. the fairness is the overwhelming majority of the houses are four stories and the fairness is 16 -- the house has had six owners since we moved in.

one couple moved due to divorce and the other, there were transferred to new york but the three other families moved because the house was not conducive to a family. they moved to orange county. my wife and i raised our family in a single one -- a similar situation. it was enjoyable. we had hoped to be had more space but maybe someday we will ask for that and before you. in this day and age, we really hope that we keep our new neighbors and i think bruce and margaret agree. they too can raise a family on this box that there is no war flight of families and they have reached out. the design is in keeping. otherwise i would not allow it. i would not allow in the mansion on my block. everyone has been fair and open and sometimes it is difficult to come here as a neighbor but no matter where you decide we will have a great block and we will have great neighbors. in fairness we should allow them the opportunity. thank you.

president miguel: additional speakers in favor? >> i am rebecca schumacher, we own the property. i am a realtor. i am the number one agent in the marina district and have been if you add up the transactions from 2008 to the present month. i represented the sellers of 55 rico way in the past year and as a matter of disclosure indicated to all potential buyers that the house at 60 rico way was petitioning to add a fourth. it would stand back 15 feet from the street. i knew that was the regulation and believed that is what they had asked for. i am astonished that anyone is asking them to step back even further because when you stand

on the street, you can barely see anything that is above the roof line. not a single person who looked at the party objected to the plans that were proposed for the house across the street. we received four offers on the house. we countered three of them. we went significantly above the numbers that the initial offers came in for. and never was the proposed project across the street and issue. that speaks to market value and the street is, you saw a picture of a small section of the street. i have lived on this block and on property here for 10 -- 12 years. most of the block, especially as you round the curve and you get to this little section where 66

is, most of the block is three story houses. i would also like to say the argument that there would be a shade on the neighbor's house on my side of the street who stood up and spoke in behalf of the d.r. respondent is incredible to me, given the addition would be made on the north side of the street and therefore, impossible to create shadow on a neighbor living on the south side of the street. with regard to resale value, i certainly can speak to the resale value of being able to offer houses with a family for plan. thank you very much. i hope you can support try and mary's -- troy and mary's plan. president miguel: d.r. requestor, you have a to middle -- to minute rebuttal -- two

minute rebuttal. >> everything in the neighborhood is three stories. there are more buildings across the street within the bloc and so on and so forth. what the neighborhood character is about here is to stories and that is what we have got. we have nine houses in a row, two stories from the street. our house has 3 stories but we have a penthouse that is put back. what we are requesting is the character of this side of rico way, this project be in character with the existing development on this side and the fact that we have this neighborhood character which is unique. this is definitely a planning

issue. of character in the neighborhood. this is a lovely block and we would like to keep it in character. thank you. president miguel: product sponsor, you have two minutes. -- project sponsor, you have two minutes. >> thank you. this is to correct a dysfunctional layout that allows us to have our children germs on the same floor. our project is extremely modest and fits within the existing neighborhood. we worked hard to make sure the neighbors understood what we were doing, address any questions and concerns the may have. we spent hours over the last year-and-a-half meeting with neighbors in showing our plans. every neighbor we met with has given their complete support except for the d.r. requestors even though we have shown there is minimal impact. we have letters indicating additional support and we have

to neighbors who have spent the day here to support and be here at the hearing. we have done everything city staff has asked and in the process have reduced the original scale and the impact of our design. we set back our project beyond the city guidelines and are left with a project that is less than ideal. the rooms are narrow and tight. the city guidelines required a 15 foot setback but we are made to be at 22 feet. we are forced to do a reasoned -- a redesign. we have -- the current plan shows less than a foot. we ask that we be allowed to reduce the set back from 22 feet as required so we can gain more square footage. we hope you will approve our projects so we can improve our home and have a family and live in san francisco for a long

time. planning staff has approved our project and have recommended to you to approve and not take d.r. we hope it will approve our project. -- you will approve our project. president miguel: thank you. >> i have familiarity with this project and i will tell you why. i can identify closely with the project sponsors. it was a mission revivial style in morira loma park. we had made it large enough for the family to be on the same for. we got -- bought another house in san francisco which we still live in. aside from that point, my office got notice azide do for any sort of additions that occur in the general vicinity. my dental office is more than a

mile away. i spotted about a year ago. i know this the setback was pretty severe. it seemed compared to what i am used to sing. staff had also -- it looked like a box on the top of the house. i call the staff, i forget whether it was mr. cabreras and said, what is going on here? he mentioned there was a historical issue that the addition to the top of the house was not supposed to look like the rest of the house. i said, that does not make any sense to me. the fact the original design apparently had a tile shed roof and where the addition was so it looks like everything else which is mission revival in the neighborhood and to put just a box on the top without the kind of finishing is not right. at the very least, regardless of what we decide as far as the addition and how far forward it

should come, i think the project sponsor should be allowed to finish that in a way that looks a program like every other addition whether it is the original structure where the other additions that have been done have all been sympathetic to the context of the neighborhood. i think even some of the d.r. requestors would agree that finishing at the right way it will look like it belongs with the house. there are other issues here. i visited the contact and the project sponsor and i visited one night and walked through the place and got a really good idea of what the needs were to try to locate the master bedroom and the children's bedrooms on the upper floor which requires a certain amount of space and i could see given what they were allowed to have, it was going to be pretty tight. and i'm not quite sure why we need to have a setback that is almost 23 feet when most of the time, all we ask setbacks to be

is 15 feet. they even said, 17 feet or even 19 would be fine. it would allow them to have a functional staircase and other things that work a lot better than to try and cram all the rooms and to that one space. there is another factor here that i noticed by looking at a map. i went on a rainy night but i returned on a sunny day to get an idea of the affects of additions and the shadowing and all that. there is not a north-south situation. this runs from northwest to southeast. therefore, if a house is -- it is not adjacent to the requestor, they're not to the south but rather to the southeast. therefore, the impact of any shuttling is going to be minimized because maybe i and

the heart of summer when the sun is most at its northern point in the morning hours there might be some shadowing but as soon as the sun moves toward the top of the sky, then of course, it is going to be shining right into the der requestor and all the other houses. even if this addition was the entire upper floor, it still would not block the sun or the house as to the north except for a few hours in the early morning and almost not all during the winter months when the sun is further to the south. i do not know that there is an issue for the shadowing. there is a separation, there is a light will -- well and letters from support -- of support from almost everyone on the streets that are in the packet who were not able to come tonight. i would be in favor of in this issue, i would take d.r. and allow project sponsors to have an addition that went out to no more than 19 feet from the

street, which i think would reclaim some of that lost space. i would say 17 would be appropriate because that is to feed more -- two feet more than what we require setbacks to be. as was pointed out, 27 rico is 3 feet back and most are not set back that far. we will see with the other commissioners have to say. commissioner moore: was that a motion or expression of desired? commissioner antonini: an expression. commissioner moore: i believe that what is in front of us, the design as proposed with the modification and the guidance the department give to the project is an approvable project and i believe there is nothing exceptional and

extraordinary here that would require us to take d.r.. the pattern if you look at the high resolution area, the majority of buildings and a random -- in a random fashion have a third story addition which creates an informality and compatible with the expression of the marina. i do believe given the nature of the street on which it is, and curving -- including that narrowness of the street, -- the narrowness of the street, the proposed set back is the correct way of doing it. it is a large house. i believe the spaces are quite good. there is always a little bit more that one would want. there is indeed a certain amount

of -- for a joining neighbors. it is not a perfect solution from the d.r. clusters -- requestor's issues it is acceptable and i approve. i move to approve as proposed. >> second. commissioner borden: i want to understand why -- the historic issue. is this building considered contributory? this is the first set -- time i heard anything like this and i am trying to understand. >> there are a revolving thist kasia maderah ins. there ise the his store group you -- historical review. you -- historical review. under the review it was