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individually significant or historic but does contribute to a potential historic district. that in itself makes it a historic resources. a potential historic resource. with regard to the setback being at 22 feet, part of that is because of the visibility from the -- across the street and with this building, instead of having where you have this straight up and down on most residences, this one has a sloping parapet. it makes the addition more visible. if it were at the standard 15 feet which the design prescribes by minimum. that is why the addition was pushed back to 22 feet. part of the environmental review. commissioner borden: i think it is separately fine project. i do not understand the concerns of the requestor. i did not understand why they
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push it back so far. i can understand their concern with the distance. the street being so narrow your not going to see anything anyway because -- it will not seeing, you would have to be in the other person's house upstairs. >> i have to agree. i walked that streetwise -- street twice. across the street. this is the argument for story poles. that would have sold a lot of the questions had that been done. it is too late for that. i saw in the general neighborhood a number of bad boxes and i saw a number that were contextual.
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i do not by the historical argument on 22 feet on this one. this is a misuse of the historic process. i won't vote against the motion, but i would have preferred that the setback not be 22 feet. >> if i could address part of that. not a setback but the architectural treatment. under the historical review, it was mentioned that the addition itself should not be replicating. >> i understand secretary of interior standards. i do not think it is applicable here. i think it is bad for the neighborhood. >> my point was the project may
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be designed to appear compatible and seamless with existing architectural style but without replicating the features of the existing building. staff would be amenable to that not only from a design guidelines but from the ceqa review. it does not necessarily have to be a box with the parapet on it. there can be some kind of feature but it could not -- should not be replicating the existing parapet at that slope. commissioner antonini: i would hope there is flexibility in our motion and staff they could work with project sponsor to finishe the upper addition in such a way that it has more compatibility with the rest of the houses in the neighborhood and whether it be an issue of -- eave tile roof, there are a
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couple of houses that were built before the secretary's standards were carried out. they are beautiful and they put on additions on the top their seamless with the bottom and that is what i would like to be able to do on my house and i ever did in addition to the top of it. people should have the ability to make something look appropriate if they feel that way. commissioner moore: the only thing is that if you would change from flat to pitched, it would add significant height. i assume that you cannot have it both ways. either you keep the high-tech row -- low or you do it pitched roof -- the height low or you do a pitched roof.
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it creates a shadow and a more massive feeling. he should speak to this and keep this light and not as noticeable. we are minimizing the effect on the neighbor. would you like to comment on that? >> we can take a look at this drawing. >> we did move this to a 15 foot setback and we added the tiled roof but with his returns on either side.
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that is the street you. have you from further down the street and more of an aerial shot. that would be one way with a tile roof here and here and here to integrate the upper addition with the lower house. one way to do it. commissioner moore: it is clear that would create a massive feeling. it would be much closer to the street. architecturally i find it somewhat in congruent. it is a top hat not quite fitting. i am comfortable with the setback and with the contemporary addition which is in keeping with interpretations of historic preservation staff -- style. i need to step in in defense. i found myself calling staff and saying what is happening, you're
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not on this project. there is an independent review function within the planning department and i am glad it is independent. they need to step forward when they see something and even in my case, i did not quite agree with the observation. i took the facts as being what they're supposed to do. so i can only support what you have brought forward. and repeat my support for the project as proposed. >> to address the concerns in terms of adding an architectural detail to make the building more compatible, there is -- it would not necessarily increase the building height as it is now before you. second item is i would caution the department and if you were to add or decrease the setback
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-- a lesser said back then 22 feet, that 22 feet is required under the ceqa review. by bringing this set back forward, the commission action because you're asking for something that was issued under the category of exemption for the project. >> i understand what you're saying. because you said it -- set it over 22 feet, it was almost not visible. therefore you did not have to go through a historic ceqa review to see if the upper element was compatible. is that kind of what you are saying? >> they did the historical review. they applied for the application and 22 feet was the set back under the review.
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>> if there is an impact it changes the character. and creates a historic -- more extensive ceqa project. >> it was to be challenged it would be before the board of supervisors -- if it was to be challenged it would be before the board of supervisors. >> there is flexibility in interpreting standards and definitely i am in favor of that. this is getting a little bit too involved for an addition. i think to answer commissioner more, if you leave the flat roof, and you have the eave there that is tiled or harbor they decide to do it, that could be something that would not add any pitch to the height of the roof. we would not make it any higher and it would be more compatible with every other house on the block. to have additions that go up
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another floor. they have kept the roof, the treatment of the visible were for the same as the rest of the neighborhood and that is a suggestion. commissioner moore: while we are entitled to our opinions i am not a big fan of pizza hut roofs. a pitch comes out of formal architecture but just pitching it at, i do not see any purpose in there. it will be expensive to do and it does not add anything of value to the house nor for the people who are looking at it. because when you see it from the side, it is like that. it is not completing itself as a form and people are saying what the hell is this? it is a pizza hut roof. that is what it is. i do not think that works. commissioner borden: why are we talking about the roof? commissioner moore: i was just
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commenting. >> the motion is to approve. >> the motion is currently before it. commissioner antonini, aye, commissioner borden, aye. commissioner moore, aye. that motion passes unanimously. thank you. you're not in general public comment. -- you are in general public comment. president miguel: is there any present -- is there any public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. we're adjourned.
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this hearing is finally finished.
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>> hello. you're watching the show that explores san francisco's love
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affair with food. there are at least 18 farmers markets in san francisco alone, providing fresh and affordable to year-round. this is a great resource that does not break the bank. to show just how easy it can be to do just that, we have come up with something called the farmers' market challenge. we find someone who loves to cook, give them $20, and challenge them to create a delicious meal from ingredients found right here in the farmer's market. who did we find for today's challenge?
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>> today with regard to made a pot greater thanchapino. >> you only have $20 to spend. >> i know peter it is going to be tough, but i think i can do it. it is a san francisco classic. we are celebrating bay area food. we have nice beautiful plum tomatoes here. we have some beautiful fresh fish here. it will come together beautifully. >> many to cut out all this talk, and let's go shop. yeah. ♪ >> what makes your dish unique? >> i like it spicy and smoky. i will take fresh italian tomatoes and the fresh seafood, and will bring them to other with some nice spoked paprika and some nice smoked jalapeno peppers. i am going to stew them up and
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get a nice savory, smoky, fishy, tomatoy, spicy broth. >> bring it on. how are you feeling? >> i feel good. i spent the $20 and have a few pennies less. i am going to go home and cook. i will text message u.n. is done. >> excellent and really looking forward to it. >> today we're going to make the san francisco classic dish invented by italian and portuguese fishermen. it'll be like a nice spaghetti sauce. then we will put in the fish soup. the last thing is the dungeon as crab, let it all blend together. it will be delicious. when i could, i will try to make healthy meals with fresh ingredients, whatever is in season and local. those juicy, fresh tomatoes will take about an hour to cook down into a nice sauce.
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this is a good time to make our fish stock. we will take a step that seems like trash and boil it up in water and make a delicious and they speed up my parents were great clerics, and we had wonderful food. family dinners are very important. any chance you can sit down together and have a meal together, it is great communal atmosphere. one of the things i like the most is the opportunity to be creative. hello. anybody with sets their mind to it can cut. always nice to start chopping some vegetables and x and the delicious. all this double in view is this broth with great flavor. but your heart into it. make something that you, family, and friends will really enjoy. >> i am here with a manager at the heart of the city farmer's market in san francisco. thank you for joining us. tell us a little bit about the organization. >> we're 30 years old now. we started with 14 farmers, and
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it has grown out to over 80. >> what is the mission of the organization? >> this area has no grocery store spiller it is all mom-and- pop stores. we have this because it is needed. we knew it was needed. and the plaza needed somebody. it was empty. beautiful with city hall in the background. >> thank you for speaking with us. are you on the web? >> yes, hocfarmersmarket.org. >> check them out. thank you. >> welcome. the dish is ready. >> it looks and smells amazing. >> thank you. it was not easy to meet the $20 budget. i checked everybody out and found some great produce. really lovely seafood. i think that you are going to love it. >> do not be shy. cyou know this can run you
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$35 to $45 for a bowl, so it is great you did this for $20. >> this will feed four to six people. >> not if you invite me over for dinner. i am ready to dig in. >> i hope you'll love it. >> mmm. >> what do you think? >> i think i am going to need more. perhaps you can have all you want. >> i am produce the that you have crushed this farmer's market challenge by a landslide. the first, we're going to have to tally of your shopping list and see what you actually spend that the farmer's market. >> and go for it. >> incredible. you have shown us how to make super healthy, refresh chapino from the farmers market on the
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budget, that for the whole family. that is outstanding. >> thank you peter i am glad that you like it. i think anybody can do it. >> if you like the recipe for this dish, you can e-mail us at sfgtv@sfgov.org or reach out to us on facebook or twitter and we
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>> this lodge is home to some of the best fly casting pools in the world. these shallow concrete pools don't have fish.
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this is just a place where people come to practice their fly casting technique. ith was built in the 1930's and ever since, people have been coming here to get back to nature. every year, the world championship of fly casting is held in san francisco and visitors from all over the globe travel to be here. >> we are here with phil, general manage of san francisco rec and parks department at the anglers lodge. what do you think about this? >> it is spectacular, travis from oregon, taught me a snake roll and a space cast. >> there are people from all over the world come to san francisco and say this is the place to be. >> yeah. it's amazing, we have teams from all over the world here today and they are thrilled.
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>> i flew from ireland to be here. and been practicing since for the competition. all the best casters in the world come here. my fellow countryman came in first place and james is on the current team and he is the head man. >> it's unique. will not see anything like it where you go to compete in the world. competitions in ireland, scotland, norway, japan, russia each year, the facilities here in the park are second to none. there is no complex in the world that can touch it. >> i'm here with bob, and he has kindly agreed to tell me everything i need to know about casting. i'm going to suit up and next, we're in the water. >> what any gentleman should do. golden gate angling has free
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lessons the second saturday of every month. we have equipment show up on the 9:30 on the second saturday of every month and we'll teach them to fly cast. >> ok. we are in the water. >> let me acquaint you with the fly rod. >> nice to meet you. >> this is the lower grip and the upper grip. this is a reel and a fly line. we are going to use the flex of this rod to fling away. exactly as you moved your hands. >> that's it? >> that's it. >> i'm a natural. >> push both arms forward and snap the lower hand into your tummy. push forward. >> i did gave it a try and had great time but i might need some more practice. i met someone else with real fly casting skills. her name is donna and she is an
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international fly casting champion. >> i have competed in the casting ponds in golden gate park in san francisco. i have been to japan and norway for fly casting competition. i spend my weekends here at the club and at the casting pond. it's a great place to learn and have fun. on a season day like this, it was the perfect spot to be. i find fly casting very relaxing and also at the same time very challenging sport. takes me out into the nature. almost like drawing art in the air. and then i can make these beautiful loops out there. >> even though people from across the globe come here to compete, it's still a place where locals in the know relax and enjoy some rely unique
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scenery. until next time, get out and play!
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