>> following it along, a sin that can is -- it's a porcelainized sink, where the traditional sink was cast iron, it had to be porcelainized to keep from rusting, but this is clay. >> every counter that's more than 12 inches wide has to have a plug. on a long counter like this, you can't be more than 24 inches from any point along the wall to the nearest plug. and all these plugs have to be ground fault circuit interrupt, gfci. and peninsulas, we don't have a peninsula, but they need to have plugs on them. and you need separate small appliance circuits, you have to have two 20-amp circuits serving the kitchen and separate circuits for your dishwasher and garbage

disposal. sometimes you can sthare a few. you have to have circuits for the microwave. if this is an electric deep flier, which i have never seen before, built in, this would have to have a dedicated circuit. you don't need to remember the details but you need to know that the electrical requirements for kitchens are very high, it's very expensive and often requires you to add a new subpanel or change out your electric panel. that all of a sudden rolls up the cost of the remodel. now you have to go down to your electrical panel and do an upgrade. >> you should have an electric plan. you want to locate on a drawing where each outlet is going to be. think about it for the code but also for practical purposes. think about where you want your appliances and what not. do a lighting plan. i actually -- for me, i even will locate this outlet relative the tiles in the cabinet, so typically, i like to center it if i can, align it

with the tile pattern. if you draw a picture of it, it's going to help you in the long-term. >> it's not something you want to leave to your contractor to design, saying, oh, let the contractor take care of this, it'll just happen and maybe it'll happen -- maybe it'll happen right and maybe not. >> if it's on a drawing, then it's in the contract, and then they're required to place it there. that's the obvious -- it's a good form of communication. >> tand the contractor wants that they want to know exactly what they're supposed to do. they don't want to have to figure it out. they just want to build it. >> a lot of people get overwhelmed with decision making and will defer some decisions, that's a mistake too. good kitchen plan is try to make the decisions at the beginning and not as you go. >> how much would it cost to build a kitchen like this? if we strip it out to the walls

and put in a kitchen like this, give us a ballpark. >> for this kitchen be with glass tiles, which are very expensive. >> marble counters. >> limestone, these look like european cabinets. not the ultimate high end, but it's a high end kitchen, i would put this at $75,000. and a floor. this seems like porcelain tile. that's not -- these probably are $5 a tile. but range is -- but the range is $50,000 to $100,000 for a kitchen. it can go a lot. >> on the flooring, do you have to really tear out the old floor or can you put it over the top of it? >> it depends the floor and the condition of the floor. but the rule of thumb is, you should take it off. aupt good subsurface to apply

on, so it's better to take it up. >> there is an issue about adhearing flooring to a concrete, especially fresh concrete. if somebody floats a floor, you don't want to put the tile directly on the concrete, because if there are any cracks in the concrete and concrete cracks that will be telegraphed right up through the tile. so usually there's some kind of film between them that allows them to expand and contract and not telegraph cracks. >> one note on the last question a lot of clients believe they can put a new floor on top of an old floor, whether it be, if it's linoleum, it's very thin. if it's hardwood, it's .75 inch, remember all your appliances have certain clearances from the floor to the underside of the counter or the floor to the topside of the counter. if you raise the floor 3/4 of an inch, you've altered that

dimension. if you put a 3/4 inch floorened under your dishwasher, it may not fit. if you put it right up to the front of the dishwasher, you may never get it out. >> let's look at another kitchen. tell us about this one. >> this is var contemporary kitchen. it illustrates a lot of good strends and things we do here in san francisco. in san francisco, we have very high ceilings sometimes. this is what we do. we have regular lower-upper cabinet and upper-upper cabinet, making it like a display cabinet is a nice thing to do. >> i worry about rt quakes. i see that up there. >> these are popular, called chimney hoods as opposed to cabinet hoods that are built in. these are very popular. these are dishwasher drawers here. this is one dishwasher split into two drawers. you can do a half load and it's great. so especially if you're, you

know, a single person or small family where you just kind of do half a load, it's a great thing. also here, this is a built-in refrigerator here. >> look at that. >> and this is a refrigerator drawer here. >> that's what rachel wants a refrigerator drawer at her cooking height. >> in this one, this is the refrigerator and these are the freezers, but you can buy it separately as a two-drawer system as refrigerator or freezer. >> islands are popular but think about your plans with the door open as well. are you going to hit something? are you going to block something? if you had the luxury, but some space there. you want to show how these things open. so you can negotiate around them. >> if you look at this, this happens to be a 27-inch refrigerator. if it was a standard 36-inch refrigerator, it would come

very close to this island and in this m case you wouldn't be able to open it. design-wise many refrigerators you see as a standard have some kind of colored finish on them, stainless, black, white. refrigerators, ventilation systems, all have the option of making them disappear. putting wood paneling on them and making them integrate into the kitchen. the cooking equipment, we're talking ovens, the cook tops, microwaves, those cannot be hidden. so you have to think about how it's going to visually impact your kitchen. >> some people like a lot of stainless steel, some people want to minimize it. fashions come and go and stainless is hot now and maybe 20 years from now -- >> stainless has been around for 50 years. it's always been a premium product. >> the nice thing about stainless, it's the same color all the way through. black and white is just the top

layer of the steel that's that color. everything sells the color of steel. >> designers like them. it's a neutral color, gos with most color schemes. goes with contemporary designs and also traditional designs. >> what is today's fashionable kitchen looking like? >> there's a broad range for all tastes out there. but the chimney hoods are very popular now. very contemporary looking. >> this kitchen would be considered more of a contemporary minimalist kind of kitchen. you have countertops surrounding the cook top rather than a range that continues to the floor. you have a chimney hood, there are other kitchens where it's going to be a massive big wolf range or viking range a big professional range, big hood. those are clients that want people to walk in and go, wow, this is a cooking kitchen. other people want them to say, i want everything to look good. >> these are sealed burners,

very easy to clean. this one is a bigger circle, higher b.t.u. you have one that's big and the other three are normal. >> on that one, that's the same level as the professional one out there. that's 15,000. >> this is a wolsnf >> yes. >> these are called shaker style cabinets, very popular. they're a little wider than most, which i kind of like. usually they're a little bit thinner. very popular. >> let's step on in here and try to find out if our gougere is ready. >> i got the best surprise when i opened it the first time. it's blue inside. here's the gougere as they come out. lots of butter. >> we have some eating specialists here as well as cooks. do we have any questions while

we conclude? yes, sir. >> on the requirements for replacement of windows is that also true of doors? in other words, any door that leads to the exterior, a french door, would that have to meet the same criteria? >> yes. energy, yes. typically like glass doors would be double glazed, they would have -- similar to a window. it would have to have weather stripping as well. >> any glazing in the door would be considered a window, it would have to meet that standard. the door itself, if it was a solid core door, you'd have to weather strip it and it would be fixed wall construction. glass would have to meet it. that's correct. it's a very high standard. very high standard. other questions here? yes. >> you said that -- are some of these requirements online? >> some of the requirements online? yes. you can find them online, not

just from san francisco but if you just say code requirements for kitchens, you will -- berkeley and everyone, you'll find plenty of them. they're all on there. but the mistake would be to consider that you have got a list of them. you cannot get a complete list of code requirements because there are too many. and you cannot become an expert. andre's been doing this 20 years, kitchen remodels. he and i, and we're still learning them. they are so many and so complicated you cannot expect yourself to know what all the code requirements are. i'm sorry but they're so difficult. >> it's very thick. >> here's a copy -- this is a copy of one, this is just one of the codes that we're talking about. this is the new building code. here's the energy code. there's the electrical code, mechanical code, the plumbing code. planning code. >> don't think you can try to figure it out for yourself.

when you hire someone who has done this they know the pertinent ones and relevant ones. that's again why you would hire a professional. >> i read all about countertops and they all have their ups and downs, any idea with somebody who is just brutal on things what would be the best one? >> granite. >> i would say there's no perfect -- >> concrete. >> granite is the densest stone, that's common. and z and granite tiles actually are relatively reasonably priced and fairly indestructible. >> that's a great idea, instead of a slab, you can get tiles. >> and replace -- replaceable, too after she smashes them. >> also quartz, these are good too. >> i want to thank you all for coming today. andre and pat and rachel and the gougere was absolutely fantastic.

thank you all very much.